Happy #GlobalSwitchDay
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Element/matrix aren't part of the fediverse, either. It doesn't speak AP.
Matrix is federated, Signal is not.
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Yeah. I love Signal but it doesn't belong in that list. Dansup (creator of loops and pixelfed) is apparently working on "Sup" that will be a decentralized alternative to whatsapp.
XMPP is an established federated messaging app with encryption.
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Try Matrix or XMPP instead of signal
I miss Jabber so much. There was a brief time where my one XMPP client and an easy to install server could let me chat with everyone I knew, whether they were on ICQ, Y!, gchat, MSN, IRC, or AIM. We fucking HAD interoperability.
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XMPP is an established federated messaging app with encryption.
There isn't much information about "Sup", but if I had to guess it could be that dansup is making sup app with XMPP(rotocol) as the messaging protocol.
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Matrix is federated, Signal is not.
although it is federated, it isn't apart of the fediverse, as it doesn't use activitypub.
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although it is federated, it isn't apart of the fediverse, as it doesn't use activitypub.
I’d argue it’s part of “the fediverse” but not “The Fediverse”.
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I’d argue it’s part of “the fediverse” but not “The Fediverse”.
Fair point, definitely still apart of the same style of platform but not the same protocol.
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There isn't much information about "Sup", but if I had to guess it could be that dansup is making sup app with XMPP(rotocol) as the messaging protocol.
That would be rad if true ^^
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Unfortunately, the switch from YouTube to PeerTube has not worked for me so far. I can't find a decent instance (not full of right-wing/conspiracy content) with interesting stuff that also allows me to make an account.
Yes finding the right instance on peertube is a nightmare — and also the general lack of quality content, or subtitling, which makes it as good as useless for deaf people like me.
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Unpopular Opinion Lemmy and PeerTube logo look ugly.
I like the Lemmy one, but peertubes logo looks like it's gonna stab my eyeballs in my sleep
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That would be rad if true ^^
Let's hope so!
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It doesn't have an app, how is it buggy?
Might be talking about the Bookwyrm client on F-Droid?
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A federated social fitness app(like Strava) would be cool
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I wish Boost understood the collapsible spoilers.
On my client, it's all expanded and I see all the formatting characters. It looks/works great in a browser though.
Same with Sync, unfortunately.
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Unpopular Opinion Lemmy and PeerTube logo look ugly.
The Lemmy logo always looks so sad or angry to me. Wished he could oook happier.
The only ones on the right I really like and signal and friendica. (I had never seen the friendica logo before. This is really well done whoever designed that. Good job.)
All the big guys of course can afford graphic design teams and marketing/PR research.
The notable exception for me is mastodon. While I’m still not a big fan of that logo either, it certainly looks better than the X logo. I’m guessing Musk DOGE’d his design teams in favor of some yes-men.
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Might be talking about the Bookwyrm client on F-Droid?
I went back to check. This is correct. It's the un official one in f-droid.
My bad!
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Signal is not Fediverse! Element/Matrix is!
Absolutely, signal isn't federated, but I don't want my messaging app to be federated. I want my social media to be federated. Lemmy is good because it's open. Signal is good because it's shut.
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Element/matrix aren't part of the fediverse, either. It doesn't speak AP.
I'd like to argue that using AP is an inconsistent rule for membership. For example, Diaspora has been considered to be part of the fediverse from early on, but it doesn't use AP.
I don't really know where to draw the line. AP simply isn't suitable for some applications, but it makes sense to include it for branding
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Element/matrix aren't part of the fediverse, either. It doesn't speak AP.
Are we claiming now that Activity Pub is the only protocol that we can use for the fediverse? I think XMPP is roughly 30 years old at this point, and I'm pretty sure Activity Pub is much younger than that. I could be wrong though.
But regardless, I don't see why Activity Pub has to be the only protocol we accept to be considered a part of the fediverse. It's not even like different AP implementations talk to each other all that well. My understanding is that Mastodon doesn't federate that well with Lemmy, and I haven't seen Loops or Pixelfed on Lemmy yet either.
I'd be happy to be corrected on any of this though, I haven't looked too closely into exactly how AP works or how it's supposed to interoperate with different applications.
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Anyone on Loops? I tried signing up a few days ago, but the sign up page wasn't working. Now the landing page says they aren't accepting new users.
It took a day before I got my activation email. There was no indication on the website it was gonna take that long, but I'm guessing it's early enough that it might still require manual approval.
That said it's still very much a ghost town
