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    We all need to strike

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      We all need to strike

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      If only tech workers weren't allergic to unions that'd be great

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        If only tech workers weren't allergic to unions that'd be great

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        It's like the entire white collar industry. I think they think it's beneath them, and they think they will be special.

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          If only tech workers weren't allergic to unions that'd be great

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          This shit right here. I tried to get people at my last job organized, but there were so many brainwashed libertarians who insisted a union would do nothing but take your money and spend it on "woke" things like... protecting women and minorities. God forbid.

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            If only tech workers weren't allergic to unions that'd be great

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            If people stopped repeating this stuff, it would help

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              If people stopped repeating this stuff, it would help

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              Lol, no, it wouldn't.

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                Lol, no, it wouldn't.

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                Lol, no, it wouldn't.

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                  We all need to strike

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                  we all ARE striking daily. We're fighting bullshit RTO mandates and quiet quitting everyday

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                    It's like the entire white collar industry. I think they think it's beneath them, and they think they will be special.

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                    Eh.. having unions sounds good to me.. a white collar worker. I am just not considered part of the labour class by blue collar workers. So it makes me feel isolated. Don't be mistaken, we keyboard thumpers already fight corporate bullshit daily. Th e disdain is from blue collar workers.

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                      we all ARE striking daily. We're fighting bullshit RTO mandates and quiet quitting everyday

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                      Hahahahaha. You think that's what a strike is? A strike isn't just a slight battle against the company. It's an all out war. So to speak. It's insulting to those actually in unions who walk the picket lines to suggest refusing rto is a strike.

                      Please actually organize.

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                        Eh.. having unions sounds good to me.. a white collar worker. I am just not considered part of the labour class by blue collar workers. So it makes me feel isolated. Don't be mistaken, we keyboard thumpers already fight corporate bullshit daily. Th e disdain is from blue collar workers.

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                        . I am just not considered part of the labour class by blue collar workers.

                        Unions can and still lead you to resources and help you unionize. You can't blame blue collar workers.

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                          . I am just not considered part of the labour class by blue collar workers.

                          Unions can and still lead you to resources and help you unionize. You can't blame blue collar workers.

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                          I didn't blame blue collar workers. I said I was isolated because even though both white collar and blue collar workers sell their labour for a living, somehow we are never accepted as real labour just because the elite among us make $500k a year for instance.

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                            Hahahahaha. You think that's what a strike is? A strike isn't just a slight battle against the company. It's an all out war. So to speak. It's insulting to those actually in unions who walk the picket lines to suggest refusing rto is a strike.

                            Please actually organize.

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                            you should try to get off of your imaginary high horse or you might hurt yourself.

                            A strike is a refusal to commit labour to the company. Same as not doing a good job. In japan the ticket checkers had a strike where they did their job as usual but did not collect the payment for issuing tickets. THAT was considered a strike.

                            why must quiet quitting not be considered too? We don't participate in whatever greedy venture by doing the bare minimum.

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                              If only tech workers weren't allergic to unions that'd be great

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                              Well it is starting over in the gaming industry. Hopefully it can snowball.

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                                you should try to get off of your imaginary high horse or you might hurt yourself.

                                A strike is a refusal to commit labour to the company. Same as not doing a good job. In japan the ticket checkers had a strike where they did their job as usual but did not collect the payment for issuing tickets. THAT was considered a strike.

                                why must quiet quitting not be considered too? We don't participate in whatever greedy venture by doing the bare minimum.

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                                Because when they did that, it was actively less than the bare minimum. If you do the bare minimum, you're still doing your job. Hence, not a strike.

                                You also aren't organized, which is another good reason to not call it a strike. A strike isn't a few workers doing how they feel like.

                                In America, when you strike you put up a picket line. You tell the company, this is what we want, and will do nothing for you until you meet our demands. And you do it together.

                                As long as you are getting paid, you can hardly call it a strike

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                                  I didn't blame blue collar workers. I said I was isolated because even though both white collar and blue collar workers sell their labour for a living, somehow we are never accepted as real labour just because the elite among us make $500k a year for instance.

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                                  I mean you're still the working class. But a desk job is quite literally not labour. Labour is physical work, specifically lol

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                                    I mean you're still the working class. But a desk job is quite literally not labour. Labour is physical work, specifically lol

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                                    Labour is physical work but working your eyes and brain is also taxing. It's just a different set of muscles/organs. Sitting at the desk all day is also taxing. it's just not evident enough to people who see an AC and think that's comfortable. It's not healthy long term. Leads to all sorts of health issues.

                                    Many of us tech workers joke that we will make our bag of money, retire, and go do farming. But you must understand why we joke like that.

                                    For a lack of physical activity, desk workers suffer numerous health issues due to sitting all day/lack of movement. We are deprived of natural sunlight and wind in our badly lit offices staring at bright screens.

                                    My point is that I said i felt isolated by blue collar workers not considering tech workers as the same class. You just went ahead and proved my point.

                                    this is one of the reasons you don't see class solidarity from tech workers. The blue collar bunch think we are somehow same as the capitalist class.

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                                      Because when they did that, it was actively less than the bare minimum. If you do the bare minimum, you're still doing your job. Hence, not a strike.

                                      You also aren't organized, which is another good reason to not call it a strike. A strike isn't a few workers doing how they feel like.

                                      In America, when you strike you put up a picket line. You tell the company, this is what we want, and will do nothing for you until you meet our demands. And you do it together.

                                      As long as you are getting paid, you can hardly call it a strike

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                                      If you still get paid for a job not well done.. it's still hurts the company. Believe me, there has been an attack on tech workers by the industry. Firing people during record profits, using LLMs to upset the negotiating power of artists and software people alike, not giving inflation adjusted pay hikes, etc. You can even see the billionaire owned media grind their gears trying to come up with words to discredit workers doing their bare-minimum such as "quiet quitting".

                                      It shouldn't be a conspiracy theory to claim that a few people control the reins of a lot of workers... in reality it's a community of few thousand billionaires cooperating to oppress workers.

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                                        I mean you're still the working class. But a desk job is quite literally not labour. Labour is physical work, specifically lol

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                                        labor
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                                        noun
                                        la·​bor ˈlā-bər
                                        plural labors

                                        • expenditure of physical or mental effort especially when difficult or compulsory was sentenced to six months at hard labor
                                        • the services performed by workers for wages as distinguished from those rendered by entrepreneurs for profits
                                        • human activity that provides the goods or services in an economy Industry needs labor for production.
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                                          Lol, no, it wouldn't.

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                                          I organize tech workers. The expectation that they are going to fight an uphill battle inhibits a lot of them and often it's not the scenario they are faced with. Tech workers being skeptical of the possibility of unionizing their workplace is a mind virus that needs to be eradicated for anything to happen. If then they find hostility, there are endless means to win over their colleagues, but if you discourage them before even starting, nothing will ever change.

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