Gaming chat platform Discord in early talks with banks about public listing

[drmoose@lemmy.world]

Disagree, it was fine when all it did was gaming parties but everything else from shitty UX, to rampant bots, to barely working functionalities. It's so bloated it cant keep up. Also it's proprietary, unencrypted and frankly just overall bad piece of software for anything but gaming.

[ubergeek@lemmy.today]

For a training set. Natural, and familiar conversations.

[kilogex@lemmy.world]

Well, time to look for a new platform.

[Guest]

My group of people is looking at moving to revolt if it happens

[iegod@lemm.ee]

This just hasn't been my experience at all and with respect to bots it sounds like server run issues not a problem with discord itself.

[sqibkw@lemmy.world]

I've been frustrated with Discord already after their stint with NFTs 3 years ago, and now there are ads in the channel panel and the cost of Nitro has doubled. But, none of the FOSS alternatives work well enough to move my friends over there, in my experience. Hopefully this will spark some progress, especially if Discord goes the way of Tumblr/Reddit.

[flames5123@sh.itjust.works]

TeamSpeak doesn’t include video and you don’t get notifications for posts in channels and there are no “chat only” channels. There is no media uploading or viewing within the client itself.

This is like pitching, ”just buy a bike” to someone who lives in the suburbs 50 miles from work.

[Guest]

Thanks for the heads up at least

[yesbutactuallymaybe@lemmy.ca]

Did you know there’s a better open source product that fills this hole? It’s called matrix / synapse, only problem is the clients sucked at least two years ago

[ohshit604@sh.itjust.works]

But, none of the FOSS alternatives work well enough to move my friends over there, in my experience.

Been slowly moving to Matrix/Element and was able to convince two buddies to at least make accounts, currently the biggest struggle we’ve had was with the voice channels.

There appears to be two types of voice channels; Jitsi & Element Call, Jitsi works okay but screen sharing appears to not work on either Windows or Linux and also doesn’t appear to allow mobile users to connect with desktop users and vice versa. Meanwhile Element Call seems to work perfectly but the unnecessary extra step to install the Element X beta app for mobile is in my opinion an unnecessary extra leap.

Another gripe about Matrix is spaces/room permissions, to my understanding Spaces are like discord servers so when I make a user an Admin you expect them to get admin privilege over every room right? Welp, it’s not and you have to give them admin for every single room also, once you give someone Admin you can’t remove it and they have to do it themselves. While I understand why it’s done this way I find it quite dumb.

[merc@sh.itjust.works]

Why do you need all those things to be in one single app?

[merc@sh.itjust.works]

In the past this wasn't true, but it's definitely true for new tech products.

There are 2 reasons for that, IMO.

1. Tech investors expect year after year, decade after decade of serious growth
2. Tech these days is not something you buy, it's rarely even something you rent, it's often free and paid for by shoving ads at you

That means that they can't just land on a good product and stick with it. They have to keep changing it to try to get more engagement, more use, more growth.

[imallama@lemmy.world]

I don't see that being worth much $$ given the massive quantities of that information already available on the web via forums and what not?

[sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip]

I didn't say these were at feature parity and frankly I don't care for half those features.

I'm fairly sure you can still set up a TS channel to automute everyone and have that act as a chatroom or chat channel, and I'm also fairly sure you can ping user groups with a pop up or TTS message for announcements, unless TS has radically changed.

You can also set up small html/xml pages per channel if you want to keep some pertinent info posted, and ping people when an update to one of those pages occurs.

There is media viewing in the client itself.

Host an image somewhere, throw it in a channel or server page description.

Yep, there's no built in, automatic, free image hosting in the chat feed or video livestreaming.

Discord is enshittifying and mtx monetized because it has massive serverside costs from hosting everything, streaming everything, and thus must seek revenue in increasingly shitty ways to pay for it.

They'll be selling all your data, introducing advertisements, monetizing even more, and moderating/censoring within a year or two of going public on the stock market.

If you want to host a teamspeak server, you pay the basically negligible cost of running your own server, and you make your own rules.

I'd say this is more like pitching a motorcycle to someone who takes the bus to work, but the busses are all getting privatized and will have their fares go up by 500% and they'll require a blood sample upon every embarkation and debarkation.

[irreticent@lemmy.zip]

I'm going back to Yahoo Messenger voice chat.

[commander@lemmings.world]

Matrix really needs to add channels.

I'm not sure why they don't just copy the features that should be standard from Discord.

[commander@lemmings.world]

Matrix is the replacement, but it's still missing features like channels.

[commander@lemmings.world]

Nickserv was always a stupid idea.

The onboarding process for IRC is just too much of a hassle. A lot of terrible, horribly awful design decisions went into it. The few people who use it are too resistant to change so there's not really a point in using it.

Matrix is the replacement for discord, although it still needs work like adding channels.

[commander@lemmings.world]

A lot of people just don't see the bigger picture, and it shows.

[daltotron@lemmy.ml]

because it's way more convenient