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  • R [email protected]

    Source on the Saudi government funding DAESH? That claim makes little sense as like Al Qaeda DAESH wishes to overthrow the Saudi state.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finances_of_the_Islamic_State

    Website The Daily Beast in June 2014 accused wealthy donors in Saudi Arabia and Qatar of having funded IS in the past.[45][46] Iran and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki have accused the governments of Saudi Arabia and Qatar of funding the group.[47][45][48] Ahead of the pro-Iraq, anti-IS conference held in Paris on 15 September 2014, France's foreign minister acknowledged that a number of countries at the table had "very probably" financed IS's advances.[49] According to The Atlantic, IS may have been a major part of Saudi Arabian Bandar bin Sultan's covert-ops strategy in Syria.[50]

    See https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/06/isis-saudi-arabia-iraq-syria-bandar/373181/ for the Citation 50

    Also see https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-qa-is-saudi-arabia-funding-isis for an overview of various US internal documents where the US government itself accused Saudi Arabia of funding Daesh at least in the beginning.

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      F MBS. POS

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        Mohammed Bone Saw

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        Microsoft BOB Simulator

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        • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF [email protected]

          Why is zelensky talking to scum like him? This fuck should never be accepted anywhere.

          Fuck MBS.

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          Why is zelensky talking to scum like him?

          Same reason he was sitting across from JD Vance and Trump to begin with. Any port in a storm.

          Fuck MBS. This is disappointing to see.

          Its a predictable response when you recognize that the Saudis are largely an extension of western hegemony in the region. I wouldn't be surprsied if someone like Rex Tillerson or Liz Cheney brokered the meeting.

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          • sorse@discuss.tchncs.deS [email protected]

            ::: spoiler TWITH, FNOIJGWTFLOW
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            YPITYANFCTI

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            • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF [email protected]

              MBS is a butcher, he should be shunned. This is a necessary evil, but is still disappointing.

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              The region is full of butchers. MBS just happens to be a close ally to the neoconservative CIA/State Department old guard. Of course he's going to be a touchpoint for a proxy war with their age old geopolitical enemy. Its the same reason Putin has reached out to Iran and North Korea.

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              • sorse@discuss.tchncs.deS [email protected]

                ::: spoiler TWITH, FNOIJGWTFLOW
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                IAA, TMBABIT.

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                  I'd just like to point out that this picture is particularly impressive.

                  You are not supposed to touch the Crown Prince in any circumstances.

                  Seeing him embrace Zelensky speaks volumes.

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                  Just to make sure I got the right Arabic prince here, that's the guy who ordered Khashoggi's death, right?

                  I'm not above realpolitik, if his interests actually align with supporting Ukraine I'm happy to hear it.

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                    It's abbreviated because there's like 50 kebab dictators all named "Mohammed Bin Something" and it's annoying to spell out the whole name to disambiguate them

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                    Kebab dictators? Annoying to spell out someone's name? Wow, that's like a rock solid one-two of prejudice and disrespect right there.

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                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finances_of_the_Islamic_State

                      Website The Daily Beast in June 2014 accused wealthy donors in Saudi Arabia and Qatar of having funded IS in the past.[45][46] Iran and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki have accused the governments of Saudi Arabia and Qatar of funding the group.[47][45][48] Ahead of the pro-Iraq, anti-IS conference held in Paris on 15 September 2014, France's foreign minister acknowledged that a number of countries at the table had "very probably" financed IS's advances.[49] According to The Atlantic, IS may have been a major part of Saudi Arabian Bandar bin Sultan's covert-ops strategy in Syria.[50]

                      See https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/06/isis-saudi-arabia-iraq-syria-bandar/373181/ for the Citation 50

                      Also see https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-qa-is-saudi-arabia-funding-isis for an overview of various US internal documents where the US government itself accused Saudi Arabia of funding Daesh at least in the beginning.

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                      Your primary source which you draw other sources from is 7 years old and wikipedia thinks it needs to be edited/fixed.

                      Only one of your sources talk about the government financing ISIS. The rest talk about Saudi people not the government. There is a huge difference from what the guy who is 6098th in line for the throne supports (the House of Saud is 12-15000 people so this isn’t a flippant
                      comment), what a non-royal business guy supports and what the guy in charge supports. Only the guy in charge’s support is relevant to my request.

                      So your best source is an email link that Im not sure we still believe is true.

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                      • ? Guest

                        I'd just like to point out that this picture is particularly impressive.

                        You are not supposed to touch the Crown Prince in any circumstances.

                        Seeing him embrace Zelensky speaks volumes.

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                        I wouldn't rejoice too much... Here's MBS with putin 6 yeara ago.

                        https://youtu.be/vrw4DJJ2Qb0?si=NCDTQM-Vw_UjTvNY

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                          The Saudis are on their own side mainly and still aligned with the USA. Their rival in the region is Iran first and foremost. So Russia is not their friend.

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                            The Saudis are on their own side mainly and still aligned with the USA. Their rival in the region is Iran first and foremost. So Russia is not their friend.

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                            What's their position on Isreal?

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                              Just to make sure I got the right Arabic prince here, that's the guy who ordered Khashoggi's death, right?

                              I'm not above realpolitik, if his interests actually align with supporting Ukraine I'm happy to hear it.

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                              Yea, and he's the liberal option in the monarchy, so shush 🤫

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                                What's their position on Isreal?

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                                Give the Palestinians a state and we can be friends.

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                                • dwayne_elizondo_mountain_dew_camacho@sh.itjust.worksD [email protected]

                                  I wouldn't rejoice too much... Here's MBS with putin 6 yeara ago.

                                  https://youtu.be/vrw4DJJ2Qb0?si=NCDTQM-Vw_UjTvNY

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                                  That was when they were meeting to negotiate SA not continuing to fuck Russia's economy into the ground with a trade war on oil prices.

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                                  • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF [email protected]

                                    Why is zelensky talking to scum like him? This fuck should never be accepted anywhere.

                                    Fuck MBS.

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                                    Oh sorry I thought everyone knew.. The thing is, his country is being invaded, everything he has and every loved one he knows are fighting for their lives and survival against a brutal psychotic dictator

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