China unveils a powerful deep-sea cable cutter that could reset the world order
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because military subs can't go that deep. It's a lot harder to police.
I don't think they need to send people down or even complex sensors, they could use a similar dumb tactic, as above, of dragging something heavy for kilometers, until they can confirm that there was a disruption on the network.
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I didn't know we have a channel tunnel to the american continents
Sure, it will be a shame to lose south/central America and Canada, but nothing else of value over there.
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A compact, deep-sea, cable-cutting device, capable of severing the world’s most fortified underwater communication or power lines, has been unveiled by China – and it could shake up global maritime power dynamics.
The revelation marks the first time any country has officially disclosed that it has such an asset, capable of disrupting critical undersea networks.
"That could reset the world order"
Lmao, what hyperbolic bullshit. It's just a cable cutter. Most nations have shit like this, but thanks for letting us know in the title this is just Chinese propaganda.
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Don’t worry, they’re working on satellite warfare too. Kessler syndrome, here we come
Working on the thing we've had for half a century? Improving sure but thaad and kenetic kill devices have been around forever like South Korea just showed video of their testing which means it's almost certainly last gen and the new Gen is deployed.
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they're also experimenting with dogfighting satellites
That seems less concerning to me after reading the article.
Russia and the US are also known to conduct proximity operations to their own and other satellites, she added.
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Referring to China’s operations as “dogfighting” in space is “not helpful” because it “automatically ascribes hostile intentions to activities that frankly the US also undertakes,” Samson added.It’s concerning that they are developing the capability (which can be used in multiple ways) in the same way that any geopolitical rival developing capacity that competes is concerning, but “dogfighting” evokes the idea that China is planning to fly around and blow stuff up, in an irresponsible, Kessler syndrome-inducing way.
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"Someone is very butthurt. Probably Chinese, by chance?"
nope, just smart,well-traveled and knowledgeable.
and.... not a racist like you!
Your comments really come off as CCP propaganda. Either you drank the Koolaid, or your trying to fool people for the sake of a shitty government.
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Don’t worry, they’re working on satellite warfare too. Kessler syndrome, here we come
I sincerely hope they’re smart enough not to trigger that.
Someone posted an article elsewhere on the thread about China practicing “dogfighting” in space - which, after you remove the fear-mongering, is just them figuring out how to do satellite-satellite maneuvering. Still immense opportunity for runaway collisions, but it seems like the military applicability is more toward sabotage than blowing things up. I could definitely see a scenario where high value satellites have had small boosters affixed to them, their electronics tampered, or some other way of commandeering or de-orbiting them to deprive their owners of them. A microwave + laser could disable smaller sats from above, then ablate some of their exterior to sap momentum so gravity drops them in short order. (Maybe. That’s idle speculation, but generating the power and dissipating the heat in space could make that idea impossible.)
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A compact, deep-sea, cable-cutting device, capable of severing the world’s most fortified underwater communication or power lines, has been unveiled by China – and it could shake up global maritime power dynamics.
The revelation marks the first time any country has officially disclosed that it has such an asset, capable of disrupting critical undersea networks.
Powerful seems like a pointless adjective here.
It doesn't take much power to destroy a cable. Did they invent a really long, and powerful, chain with a powerful anchor on it only usable by a boat with powerful electric winch?
Maybe they put AI in it too, for extra power of course
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I sincerely hope they’re smart enough not to trigger that.
Someone posted an article elsewhere on the thread about China practicing “dogfighting” in space - which, after you remove the fear-mongering, is just them figuring out how to do satellite-satellite maneuvering. Still immense opportunity for runaway collisions, but it seems like the military applicability is more toward sabotage than blowing things up. I could definitely see a scenario where high value satellites have had small boosters affixed to them, their electronics tampered, or some other way of commandeering or de-orbiting them to deprive their owners of them. A microwave + laser could disable smaller sats from above, then ablate some of their exterior to sap momentum so gravity drops them in short order. (Maybe. That’s idle speculation, but generating the power and dissipating the heat in space could make that idea impossible.)
Yeah, the only feasible way to do satellite warfare without creating a ton of debris is to mechanically attach to an enemy satellite and drop it out of orbit.
Like imagine an autonomous attacker satellite that clamps onto the target satellite, and uses thrusters to drop itself (and the target) into the ocean. Any kind of kinetic weaponry to destroy the target satellite will just end up with a debris cloud around the earth, making future space travel impossible.
But no country wants to invest in satellites just to intentionally drop them out of orbit. Every single attack would be prohibitively expensive when compared to just firing a missile at the satellite.
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Your comments really come off as CCP propaganda. Either you drank the Koolaid, or your trying to fool people for the sake of a shitty government.
"Your comments really come off as CCP propaganda"
i warned against condemning and insulting am entire country of people and their culture because the self-appointed dictator is a harmful influence.
so by me criticizing the head of the CCP and his harmful influence on China, you are seeing "CCP propaganda"?
sounds like you might be influenced by...propaganda.
"trying to fool people for the sake of a shitty government."
how does my criticism of the head of the Chinese government in charge of all policy decisions in the last decade fool youn into support of the Chinese government?
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I see that your english is a bit wrong. It's not smart, neither knowledgeable when opinions are presented as facts, that is called dumb and deceived in english
"...as facts, that is called dumb and deceived..."
You use incorrect words, conjugations, punctuation and definitions as incorrect responses to your own reading incomprehension. I can help you with your English(the capitalized language).
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dig your head deep in the sand, if you can't live without that
Nobody is going to join you down there except other racists. Have fun with each other.
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china is its politics. its culture has been majorly reshaped by their dystopian shit. Basically no one there questions their surveillance, what's more, they ridicule those who oppose it
"china is its politics."
Absurdly ignorant.
You think a 3000 year old country as large as the US with 1.4 billion people is defined by the recent political actions of a single leader who seized power a decade ago?
You are perceptually limited here, not the Chinese people and their culture.
You are woefully ignorant of both what "china" and "politics" are.
"Basically no one there questions their surveillance"
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Do you have any evidence of this lack of questioning from 1.4 billion people? The protests? Articles? No? Of course you don't you're dead wrong.
"what's more, they ridicule those who oppose it"
Chinese people are regularly censured and go to jail for protesting against Xi policies. Go ahead and provide a shred of evidence for your ignorant claims.
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Yes. In many ways, China is exactly what Republicans wet dream about. A single party runs unopposed controlling all elements of government. Criticizing them is illegal. All businesses are protected by the government from uppity customers. Employees are expected to work 9:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. 6 days a week for few benefits with almost no workers rights..
It's the Republican dream.
You know as much about china as dolphins do about integrated circuits.
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The only racist asshole who i see in this comment is varik who use racist an as excuse when the asshole dont have more arguments
Unsurprising, you are clearly coming from a limited awareness and perspective. Best of luck.
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I followed the thread just to see where it landed and I was not disappointed.
And for a well travelled and knowleadgeable person, you give off a very narrow view.
So, in one corner, we have an authoritarian regime, well established, known for violently suppressing minorities and heavilly surveill the citizens, take over territories, and constantly menace and threaten others, while thriving by manipulating money flow world wide and internally using slave work to run their industries.
On the other, we have the exact same thing, but flag and language changes. And classical political quadrant.
You can loathe a regime and have nothing against the people underneath it. Chinese were lead into an authoritarian regime through force, Americans were subtly led to the same through fear. The original premise: a land of freedom, for the people.
If we can not agree both countries are, essentially, the same, then one of us is refusing to aknowledge facts, willingly.
"So, in one corner, we have..." a biased collection of recent historical political actions by one man by which you are judging an entire country, its culture that has existed at least 300 times as long as that dictator, as well as a population of 1.4 billion other people.
"On the other, we have..." a failed direct comparison that falls apart under the lightest scrutiny.
"You can loathe a regime and have nothing against the people underneath it"
nobody argued you can't.
"Chinese were lead..." oh boy. rough.
"Americans were subtly led..."
HAhah, come on...okay. Please elucidate the subtleties of the American conservative, particularly their blunt leader.
"The original premise: a land of freedom, for the people." This is incorrect. a "Muslim ban" was proposed.
look at his policies. Rump is a rapist. not a subtle rapist, just a rapist.
"f we can not agree both countries are, essentially, the same, then one of us is refusing to aknowledge facts"
I think you are much more ignorant of the facts than refusing to acknowledge them here.
These countries are not the same at all. All facts go against your failed comparisons here and the similarity between the two countries overall.
In fact, you argue against your own conclusion by claiming the two recent dictators came to power differently.
You have no cohesive point or consistency except for how contextually and factually ignorant you are regarding every point you try to make.
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Tbh I’m gonna ignore you now. Call me a pussy but I’m tired of having my words twisted. I can hate the country. It’s not racist. It would be racist if I hate the people. But I don’t. I hate the culture and you say I don’t know anything about it, even though I just stated things that I know about it. I never mentioned the race. I mentioned „work to death“ to the point where there are grids in front of windows so people can’t jump. And I mentioned social status. What worth does an unmarried 34 year old man have in china? Exactly. Close to none. I know these things. Stop denying the truth.
And lastly FUCK YOU for repeatedly calling me a racist. You’re a fucking idiot if you think that. I clearly and obviously stated that I hate the culture, not the people. And I will say it again. I don’t hate Chinese people. I hate their culture and their government.
Kill me for it. I’m done with this useless discussion.
You're the only one frightened enough to be using personal insults.
Saying an entire country sucks ass when all you know about it is the race of its people is racist.
Hating cultures you don't know anything about is racist.
What you said is racist.
I'm glad you're changing your tune, but it doesn't change your earlier racism.
"...I know these things."
You are factually incorrect. you obviously know nothing about china if you think a huge swath of their workforce is useless.
You don't know things, you are ignorant of things.
what you know: "I hate the culture", "I hate Chinese culturue", "fuck China", "I hate the whole thing"
Most of this is defined as "cultural racism" - "Cultural racism is a concept that has been applied to prejudices and discrimination based on cultural differences between ethnic or racial groups. This includes the idea that some cultures are superior to others "
You said you hate all of it,which includes the 1.4 billion people, which is more conventional racism.
You are racist and are saying racist insults. That's who you are now, but you do not have to be stuck there.
Now you are trying to change what you said, and claim you are not racist. That's a good first step, really.
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Thank you. I was starting to question myself but seriously couldn’t see anything wrong.
Also your description of this person is very polite. I would have just called them a fucking asshole.
You being racist is not "all good dude."
You changing your tune is not bad, though.
I haven't deleted any of my comments,
I prefer confronting bigots like yourself and correcting their ignorance.
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"So, in one corner, we have..." a biased collection of recent historical political actions by one man by which you are judging an entire country, its culture that has existed at least 300 times as long as that dictator, as well as a population of 1.4 billion other people.
"On the other, we have..." a failed direct comparison that falls apart under the lightest scrutiny.
"You can loathe a regime and have nothing against the people underneath it"
nobody argued you can't.
"Chinese were lead..." oh boy. rough.
"Americans were subtly led..."
HAhah, come on...okay. Please elucidate the subtleties of the American conservative, particularly their blunt leader.
"The original premise: a land of freedom, for the people." This is incorrect. a "Muslim ban" was proposed.
look at his policies. Rump is a rapist. not a subtle rapist, just a rapist.
"f we can not agree both countries are, essentially, the same, then one of us is refusing to aknowledge facts"
I think you are much more ignorant of the facts than refusing to acknowledge them here.
These countries are not the same at all. All facts go against your failed comparisons here and the similarity between the two countries overall.
In fact, you argue against your own conclusion by claiming the two recent dictators came to power differently.
You have no cohesive point or consistency except for how contextually and factually ignorant you are regarding every point you try to make.
I like how you instantly decided I was talking about China when writing that list. Shows your bias. But if you recognized it, good. Only means the similarities run deep enough for both countries to be mistaken by one another.
Thank you for remembering China has, technically, the longest standing continuous civilization. I'm aware. But since we are focusing our attention on recent history, let's say last 70 years, I'm going to opt out the rest as not relevant for the discussion at hand.
Shall we deny the revolution led by Mao ended in violence against his own countrymen and revolutionary allies? The decades of disastrous policies, of cultural, religious and social repression, all of those considered classical indicators of established totalitarian regimes?
Meanwhile, across the Pacific, let's also ignore and deny the ever growing shadow power and pressure on the government by the "conservative" to hold back or cull whatever small advancements on the social front made, since the 1950's, paired with the constant recitation of the fear against communism.
There was violence and repression on both ends of this argument, obviously; one enacted it through bullets, while the other enacted it through the pen. Different methods, same results. Fascinating how any ideology, when led to it's extremes degenerates into essentially the same outcome.
Now, if you will allow me, I am going to preserve my critical and accusatory position towards the political establishments of China and USA, as both being authoritarian repressive dangerous regimes.
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I like how you instantly decided I was talking about China when writing that list. Shows your bias. But if you recognized it, good. Only means the similarities run deep enough for both countries to be mistaken by one another.
Thank you for remembering China has, technically, the longest standing continuous civilization. I'm aware. But since we are focusing our attention on recent history, let's say last 70 years, I'm going to opt out the rest as not relevant for the discussion at hand.
Shall we deny the revolution led by Mao ended in violence against his own countrymen and revolutionary allies? The decades of disastrous policies, of cultural, religious and social repression, all of those considered classical indicators of established totalitarian regimes?
Meanwhile, across the Pacific, let's also ignore and deny the ever growing shadow power and pressure on the government by the "conservative" to hold back or cull whatever small advancements on the social front made, since the 1950's, paired with the constant recitation of the fear against communism.
There was violence and repression on both ends of this argument, obviously; one enacted it through bullets, while the other enacted it through the pen. Different methods, same results. Fascinating how any ideology, when led to it's extremes degenerates into essentially the same outcome.
Now, if you will allow me, I am going to preserve my critical and accusatory position towards the political establishments of China and USA, as both being authoritarian repressive dangerous regimes.
"...you instantly decided I was talking about China when..."
Yes, seeing as how you said you were commenting on a thread about China and the US, and then at the end mentioned the Chinese and the Americans by name with reference to your comments, I did come to the conclusion you were talking about China and the US.
since you were literally talking about China and the US.
"Thank you for remembering China has, technically, the longest standing continuous civilization."
I did not say that and that is incorrect, but you're welcome.
"I'm aware"
clearly, you are not.
"But since we are focusing our attention on recent history..."
that is your personal myopia, do not speak for others.
"Shall we deny the revolution led by Mao..."
I guess you could, but I don't see the point of disagreeing with me there.
His regime and its effects are very well documented, If you look into it at all, you're just going to prove me right.
"let's also ignore and deny the..."
go for it.
you understand that your denial of basic historical facts is the reason you are so far off base here, right?
"Fascinating how any ideology, when led to it's extremes degenerates into essentially the same outcome."
I was waiting for your historically incorrect conclusion of magnet theory, and you finally made your way there.
your argument that the sky and the ocean are the same thing because they're so far apart from each other is a ridiculous conclusion, but explains your thought process.
