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YouTube removes 'gender identity' from hate speech policy

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  • A [email protected]

    While I hate Google, this seems like one of those much ados over nothing. They specifically mention 'sex, gender, or sexual orientation', which to most reasonable people would cover gender identity.

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    You still think things are run by reasonable people?!

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      You still think things are run by reasonable people?!

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      No, but I think most of the people on Lemmy should know better than that.

      Looks at Hexbear, .ml, and to some extent Blahaj

      Oh, who am I kidding.

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      • Q [email protected]

        Everyone should check out PeerTube sometime, the UX has improved a lot and there's a decent amount of content too. I recommend installing the PeerTube Companion app. It shows a popup on YouTube if you've clicked on a video that is also available on PeerTube.

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        what's the best queer friendly instance? :^

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        • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

          Hell yeah. Let's hear it for the readers. Let's hear it for footnotes. Let's hear it for references. Let's hear it for bibliographies. Let's hear it for the more in depth ideas that can be explored via text than video or audio.

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          What do you think keeps something deep being in the form of audio? I get that videos aren't great for research but audio can just be written word spoken so that people that can't read or don't enjoy reading can experience it. I read more than pretty much anyone that I know in my age range and I don't see myself as superior because of it and doing some comes across as frankly pomous and self important.

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          • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

            dumpstering Tesla and calling it a worthless stock.

            Oh, so it's just wall street dick sucking and pretending the whole "market" isn't just a rigged game? Counts as right-wing slop to me.

            Is that the platforms fault?

            Considering we have a fuck-ton of evidence from research that it isn't just what other people watch that determines it: Yes, it is actually. Sorry these aren't fucking videos so that you'll actually pay attention to them.

            https://www.ucdavis.edu/curiosity/news/youtube-video-recommendations-lead-more-extremist-content-right-leaning-users-researchers

            https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3351095.3372879

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            Maybe take a break dude, no need to be this hostile over some youtube videos

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            • ? Guest

              Gonna have to ignore you, bud.

              Arguing with incompetent people such as yourself is a waste of effort.

              Goodbye.

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              Haha, so many butthurt self-righteous people in this thread.

              Why are you so toxic? I thought Lemmy was supposed to foster better discussions than Reddit but here you are name-calling and talking down to people.

              Please consider treating people better in the future

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              • B [email protected]

                Riots don't work unless you smash some windows

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                Smashing your local mom and pop shop will surely show big businesses that your serious /s

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                • ? Guest

                  The big problem with PeerTube(PT) is that there is no advertising. As it stands now people are burning money in order to run a PT instance and YouTube(YT) was not at all profitable for many years so it is unlikely that PT ever will be unless people start being willing to pay for people to upload their content to PT. There are ways that you could make PT profitable but it would end up making it into something more similar to Patreon or Nebula.

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                  It's harder than that IMO. There are plenty alternatives to many bad things but people just don't care. Just like Linux, for the average person that's got enough shit to deal with, they don't wanna add what they perceive like a difficulty and remove comfort by having to start from scratch with less options. Also, being cut from the mainstream trends, and the general social thing.

                  Not speaking for me as I've been mostly degoogling and demicrosofting, even tho I still partly feeling like that for YouTube that's been a very valuable part of my life (yes. I do read and go outside. But please stop suggesting that to people in such threads, that's missing the point), and that I couldn't let go off yet.
                  Alternatives rn are either totally devoid of content (at least, the one I like), or paid (didn't gave a shot to Nebula, I'll browse it and see, but it might be hard to beat both my favorite creators I spent years curating, and the fact that you can find anything on any obscure thing)

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                  • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                    Maybe people could read more?

                    Nobody needs this endless "content" slop.

                    For real people need to get a grip if they can't survive without it. They're addicted.

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                    Hmm yes I'll just read about how cool two bullets hitting each other in slowmotion looks. Much better experience than watching it /s

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                    • null@slrpnk.netN [email protected]

                      Do you really not know how Google's whole business model works, or are you playing dumb?

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                      Why can you not give me a straight answer?

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                      • B [email protected]

                        That's a you problem. Why are you complaining?

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                        yeah thats such a you problem, I cant believe he's complaining about nazis being default on YouTube, that's such an isolated problem that only affects him, and why would anyone complain about nazis anyway aren't they the good guys? - you, apparently

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                          Why can you not give me a straight answer?

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                          Because, frankly, I don't think you're being honest.

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                            And people judged me for watching YouTube with uBlock Origin, or via NewPipe for eons.

                            Look who's laughing now.

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                            YouTube on mobile is intolerable these days. NewPipe is the way for Android, though Google is in a constant battle to disable it.

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                            • trihilis@ani.socialT [email protected]

                              I dont trust anything that isn't fully decentralized. Bluesky is very weird in that regard, its partially centralised. I guess it's better than Twitter (but that is setting the bar very low). I still refrain from using it too often.

                              It will almost certainly have ads in the future and will inevitably go down the path of reddit, twitter and Facebook so I prefer to use something that is completely out of reach of the CEO if something goes to shit.

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                              We need sites that are decentralized and make clear where their funding comes from. In the end, users need to be prepared to fund the services they use to keep them honest.

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                              • Q [email protected]

                                Everyone should check out PeerTube sometime, the UX has improved a lot and there's a decent amount of content too. I recommend installing the PeerTube Companion app. It shows a popup on YouTube if you've clicked on a video that is also available on PeerTube.

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                                How is discoverability in PeerTube? That was the sticking point for me with PeerTube as with Mastodon last time I looked. It was not easy to discover what's out there.

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                                  How is discoverability in PeerTube? That was the sticking point for me with PeerTube as with Mastodon last time I looked. It was not easy to discover what's out there.

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                                  Still not that great, I rely on the companion to redirect me to channels through YouTube.

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                                  • cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zoneC [email protected]

                                    what's the best queer friendly instance? :^

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                                    I don't know, but here's a list of instances https://joinpeertube.org/instances

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                                    • C [email protected]

                                      https://nebula.tv/

                                      Lots of popular Youtubers are already there, and they strip the sponsor segments out of their content too.

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                                      The only way to pay for subscription is with a credit card, no thank you, my culture mostly doesn't use those and I don't have or want one.

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                                      • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                                        their ads platform ruined the internet

                                        Ads were the bane of the internet FAR before Google even fucking existed. lol

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                                        and yet somehow google made it worse. Not only are there more ads than ever before, but now it's also a panopticon.

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                                          yeah thats such a you problem, I cant believe he's complaining about nazis being default on YouTube, that's such an isolated problem that only affects him, and why would anyone complain about nazis anyway aren't they the good guys? - you, apparently

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                                          They are shooting themself in the foot by not letting the algorithm do its job.

                                          I did not say nazis are the good guys. Don't put words in my mouth.

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