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Schools in Spain required to serve fruit, vegetables and fish in fight against obesity

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    Did they also increase budgets to pay for this?

    It's great and we should copy it, but you also need to put the money behind these things so the food is edible at the end

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      Did they also increase budgets to pay for this?

      It's great and we should copy it, but you also need to put the money behind these things so the food is edible at the end

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      This is Spain, we grow some amazing food here - if anything this is going to be cheaper than stuffing them full of preservatives and pizza.

      For reference my work canteen is 4,50€ for lunch, but there's usually too much good food in a serving so I always take some of it home, and it's good stuff 🙂

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        Children don't need any caffeine.

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        Yes, energy drinks shouldn't be sold to children. An age limit that prevents selling to people below 16 seems like a good idea to me.

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          Great! Maybe Spanish food will stop being all potatoes and pork finally.

          Nothing but love for Spain, together with Greece my favorite country in the world, but Spanish food sucks lol. I know very subjective and all, but I just don’t get how you can be surrounded by France and Morocco and then still not use any spices and stuff 😄

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            Great! Maybe Spanish food will stop being all potatoes and pork finally.

            Nothing but love for Spain, together with Greece my favorite country in the world, but Spanish food sucks lol. I know very subjective and all, but I just don’t get how you can be surrounded by France and Morocco and then still not use any spices and stuff 😄

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            Have you ever been to Spain? I can't remember the last time I had pork or potatoes

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              Yes, energy drinks shouldn't be sold to children. An age limit that prevents selling to people below 16 seems like a good idea to me.

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              Some countries do that already and I wouldn‘t recommend Cola to children under 12 either.

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                Have you ever been to Spain? I can't remember the last time I had pork or potatoes

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                Yes! North and south, east and west, love Spain. But seriously, even if you order something veggie like croquettes they’ll just put bacon on top of that lol. Or like you have dinner and they just casually bring you a tapa that has tuna in it without even asking if you’re eating fish. Like, the concept of not eating certain stuff seems alien to many places there.

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                  Why would fish be better than something like legumes?

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                    Yes! North and south, east and west, love Spain. But seriously, even if you order something veggie like croquettes they’ll just put bacon on top of that lol. Or like you have dinner and they just casually bring you a tapa that has tuna in it without even asking if you’re eating fish. Like, the concept of not eating certain stuff seems alien to many places there.

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                    Croquettes are not "something veggie". You can make them as breaded bechamel, but often they're filled with pork ham or chicken bits. You may find more fancy varieties with seafood or mushrooms, but overall I wouldn't consider them "something veggie".

                    Is Spain primarily meat-eating? Yes. If that's your concern, be upfront about it but don't generalise saying that Spain cuisine sucks.

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                      Croquettes are not "something veggie". You can make them as breaded bechamel, but often they're filled with pork ham or chicken bits. You may find more fancy varieties with seafood or mushrooms, but overall I wouldn't consider them "something veggie".

                      Is Spain primarily meat-eating? Yes. If that's your concern, be upfront about it but don't generalise saying that Spain cuisine sucks.

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                      Idk with food it’s like, everyone has their own opinion, some people say pizza sucks and I’ll never understand that, but here we are.

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                        Why would fish be better than something like legumes?

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                        I think it's because the fat or fish oils help with cognitive processes

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                          Idk with food it’s like, everyone has their own opinion, some people say pizza sucks and I’ll never understand that, but here we are.

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                          So your main issue is they're confusing vegetarian with pescetarian for no reason?
                          I'm vegetarian too, that happens basically everywhere (at least France, Belgium, Denmark, Poland). Some places they confuse it with veganism, but that's obviously less of an issue.

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                            Yes, energy drinks shouldn't be sold to children. An age limit that prevents selling to people below 16 seems like a good idea to me.

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                            I'm not suggesting we start carding everyone who buys a soda, but schools are a controlled environment. Just don't sell caffeinated beverages at the schools.

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                              So your main issue is they're confusing vegetarian with pescetarian for no reason?
                              I'm vegetarian too, that happens basically everywhere (at least France, Belgium, Denmark, Poland). Some places they confuse it with veganism, but that's obviously less of an issue.

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                              Replace France with Germany and you have a list of places where I consider the food terrible as well 😄

                              My main issue is just that it’s greasy food with barely any spices & very potato heavy, I just don’t like Spanish food and I don’t understand why some people are loving it so much. I’m not judging, it’s just not what I like. Apart from that as I said, Spain is together with Greece my favorite countries in the world.

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                                Yeah. I wouldn't serve any caffeinated drinks to a horde of children. I suppose the limit on caffeine must mostly be in regards to colas.

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                                People can also drink water, you know, like there's in the toilet?
                                That's what we had at school, I don't remember any complaints.

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                                  I think it's because the fat or fish oils help with cognitive processes

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                                  Fish are regularly contaminated with PCBs and other pollutants, with bioaccumulation and biomagnification providing significant doses; this includes heavy metals.

                                  Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_in_fish

                                  So it's a tradeoff: Fish consumption, methylmercury and child neurodevelopment - PMC

                                  Or you could skip the downsides and get those nuts and seeds and other plants with omega-3 fatty acids... or just algae based supplements (algae are the origin of the nutrient for those fish).

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                                    Yeah. I wouldn't serve any caffeinated drinks to a horde of children. I suppose the limit on caffeine must mostly be in regards to colas.

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                                    Even coffee?

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                                      Fish are regularly contaminated with PCBs and other pollutants, with bioaccumulation and biomagnification providing significant doses; this includes heavy metals.

                                      Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_in_fish

                                      So it's a tradeoff: Fish consumption, methylmercury and child neurodevelopment - PMC

                                      Or you could skip the downsides and get those nuts and seeds and other plants with omega-3 fatty acids... or just algae based supplements (algae are the origin of the nutrient for those fish).

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                                      Nuts and seeds have way too many Omega 6 fatty acids, wich counteract Omega 3 and can cause heart problems

                                      A vegan keto diet is hardly possible because of that

                                      Omega 3 (ALA, a predecessor of EPA and DHA which you also need) comes from few plants in high concentrations: flax (linseed), hemp, chia

                                      Additionally, microalgae oil for direct EPA and DHA can help, as the transformation of ALA in the body only fulfills the basic needs

                                      A vegan diet needs a bunch of essential supplements, which you can take in a single pill like these a day as they are small. Others like iron, protein, B-Vitamins come with a diet rich in legumes and full grains.

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                                        Children don't need any caffeine.

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                                        Nobody needs caffeine. It doesnt give you any energy, just squeezes more out of your body when you want it.

                                        Instead, school should stay WAY later, 9:00 is a good time. I had many "bus kids" in my class, who stood up at 5:30 to get to school. Fucked up

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                                          Croquettes are not "something veggie". You can make them as breaded bechamel, but often they're filled with pork ham or chicken bits. You may find more fancy varieties with seafood or mushrooms, but overall I wouldn't consider them "something veggie".

                                          Is Spain primarily meat-eating? Yes. If that's your concern, be upfront about it but don't generalise saying that Spain cuisine sucks.

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                                          Well a meat-centric cuisine sucks. As a german, I LOVE immigrants from india, arab countries, southern asia and where else they have real vegan meals that are TASTY

                                          A vegan without tofu or curry? Never.

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