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  • stamets@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

    Elon Musk <- For the people filtering the name

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    Relax, Thanos and Iron man had real power.

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      He has been a scumbag since forever.
      From the Thai 'pedophile' incident to wanting to keep his factories open in peak Covid times under Biden.
      All was OK when he served blue MAGA.
      Hypocrites

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      The Thai incident was I think the big event for a lot of people who until then though well of him.

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        Because that was hamfisted in. Originally, he wanted to kill half the universe to impress Lady Death.

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        Hm that sounds even dumber to be honest. I guess it's hard to write a plot that kills half the universe without it sounding idiotic

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        • stamets@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

          Elon Musk <- For the people filtering the name

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          Sexually harassing his employees hit the headlines in 2016; rumours before that. Inserting himself into the Thai cave rescue and the "pedo guy" slander was 2018. Hyperloop was 2013. No Lidar on Tesla. If you've been paying attention he's been outing himself for a long time.

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          • M [email protected]

            Hm that sounds even dumber to be honest. I guess it's hard to write a plot that kills half the universe without it sounding idiotic

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            At least this one didn't try to sound smart, all while trying to stay "apolitical".

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              Because that was hamfisted in. Originally, he wanted to kill half the universe to impress Lady Death.

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              This movie shit was virtuous vs what the giant walking hard-on was in the comics.

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                At least this one didn't try to sound smart, all while trying to stay "apolitical".

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                Yea true

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                • spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                  He has always been...

                  Justin Hammer

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                  Exactly.

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                    Sexually harassing his employees hit the headlines in 2016; rumours before that. Inserting himself into the Thai cave rescue and the "pedo guy" slander was 2018. Hyperloop was 2013. No Lidar on Tesla. If you've been paying attention he's been outing himself for a long time.

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                    Hindsight is 20/20. At the time i was willing to forgive a lot to get to Mars.

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                      I guess that tracks because Thanos is stupid as fuck.

                      Trying to solve the resource problem by killing half of the universe just doesn't help. In a couple of decades, the population would be back to the previous number.

                      He could just snap his fingers and make those missing resources appear. Whole empty planets for people to live with abundance etc.

                      It feels like he thought of the problem for like one minute and decided to take the easiest short term solution possible.

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                      I thought his threat was going to be that the universe either gets itself under control or he does it again?

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                      • stamets@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

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                        He fired the public image prople because he thougth he can do it better.

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                          Hm that sounds even dumber to be honest. I guess it's hard to write a plot that kills half the universe without it sounding idiotic

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                          Not that hard. Kill half the universe as a scientific experiment. Leave the other half alive as the control group.

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                            Hindsight is 20/20. At the time i was willing to forgive a lot to get to Mars.

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                            Now you mention it, the Mars thing was - and continues to be - another unscientific pipedream. The examples I gave were all plainly stupid and/or disgusting at the time.

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                            • stamets@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                              Elon Musk <- For the people filtering the name

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                              Musk was already a notoriously lying grifter 10 year ago.

                              It's only naive fanboys who were too immature be able to set aside the natural human tendency to look up to famous people and/or did not had the life experience to recognize and be suspicious of salesman bollocks (whether decorated with techie terms or otherwise) when they heard it that didn't suspect the guy was something else than what the adoring fans thought.

                              It's not by chance that Musk's fanboys were mainly young adult and teen techies.

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                                Now you mention it, the Mars thing was - and continues to be - another unscientific pipedream. The examples I gave were all plainly stupid and/or disgusting at the time.

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                                Well now that we know that he's an idiot, I have to look back at the things that I just took for granted. I didn't talk to any rocket scientists 10 years ago so I just believed him when he owned a company that was showing results. Hindsight is 20/20

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                                • stamets@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                  Elon Musk <- For the people filtering the name

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                                  He transformed a car into space garbage for publicity in 2015.

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                                  • smokeydope@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                    In the comics Thanos was straight up the right man hand/side hoe of the concept of death made manifest the whole point of offing half of all life was just to make mistress death happy (I think she actually ordered it). A lot of the original plot points of the infinity war and its buildup was lost in translation. Movie thanos motivations werent even half baked, he could have doubled resources and made a paradise for life with his motivations

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                                    Interesting, I didn't know that. I don't know how the comics handle these subjects, but I think the most annoying part of basically all the marvel movies is the way they bring up an interesting moral conundrum only to completely abandon the idea once the reason for characters to fight is set up.

                                    Thanos has a point? Can't have that, he's the bad guy! Let's make him do the most evil thing he possibly could with that power so you never need to think about it again. What's that, Civil War has interesting points on both sides? That's nice honey, anyway, Tony and Cap are going to beat each other up now and we're never going to mention it again.

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                                      and the population would still bounce back. He could have ended scarcity entirely and no one would have tried to stop him.

                                      The comics version of him just wanted to have sex with Death. Its also stupid, but it at lease makes sense. The fact that it is stupid makes it even more realistic.

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                                      MCU != comics. That should be WELL established. I know they name-dropped 616 in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, but that was more like a poor writing choice in an attempt to be an easter egg.

                                      Adding more resources to remove scarcity is dumb. You're acting as if you have 1000 units of resources and 1000 people, but then half it to 1000 units of resources and 500 people, well, they'll just bounce back. But having 2000 units of resources and 1000 people, well, that'll auto balance, and they won't grow to match resources. Or even worse, infinite resources, to ensure scarcity is removed. Iron is a resource. Iron is found inside living things, and it's found in the sun and the core of the planets. Double iron... what happens? The complete genocide of everything. Though it's true, scarcity would be removed because everything is dead. Pick any resources and if you follow it, I mean really think about it, you'll find it's not a "oh just" type of solution. And it ignores the logistics of the whole thing too, he was snapping his fingers once, not putting out a beat, just so he can handle multiple worlds/species/requirements for each. It wasn't open mic night at the MCU.

                                      His plan, which I want to remind you, is in a movie which none of it needs to make sense... because ya know, magic rocks...
                                      If a planet is struggling, due to pollution or overpopulation.... now that's been solved, and they could potentially plan around that for the future. Put policies in place and whatnot. Other planets, well, people are very superstitious. The number of ghost stories on tv or YouTube, or the fact that organized religion exists, proves that. For those folks, seeing "Hey we got up to like X number of people and then god got mad (since 99.99999...% of all living things in the MCU would have no idea what or why half got dusted), we shouldn't do that again". And in the MCU, we see various gods do exist, and they don't give a shit what happens to the mortals (Thor Love and Thunder).

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                                        How I've always seen him

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                                        Yep, its been obvious to those who've been paying attention / not fanboy fellating Musk's cock every day... it's been obvious for a solid decade that he is a lying, petty, temperamental, narcissistic con artist.

                                        Now he's just worse.

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                                          He has been a scumbag since forever.
                                          From the Thai 'pedophile' incident to wanting to keep his factories open in peak Covid times under Biden.
                                          All was OK when he served blue MAGA.
                                          Hypocrites

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                                          All was OK when he served blue MAGA.

                                          what

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