*Permanently Deleted*
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My solution to this is:
- Use a UI or app that badges or otherwise indicates new accounts (or accounts newer than 30 days or so)
- Refuse to interact with those accounts in the various "ask" communities. Maybe even throw it a downvote if it seems like it's coming from the same person that keeps doing this.
- If no one engages with them, maybe they'll knock this "hit it and quit it" bullshit off.
Sorry legit new accounts, but it's these selfish assholes that are ruining things for you and everyone else.
I had a 2 year old account, then lemm.ee shut down and I'm a baby again
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Lemmy will never be the resource reddit became if everyone just deletes their info.
And maybe that's okay, isn't it?
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If your post would end up like that in a day, please just refrain from posting it, in any community, or use a throwaway. It is very destructive, especially since all and every comment also becomes unreachable with it.
Sincerely,
With all due respect,
Your Lemmy neighbor
I'm fed up with this shit, and I know it well that it's not just me.
Do not bomb your communities, please.
I promise, I'll end up setting up a public instance that does not obey any deletions because of these madlads. Seriously, where is pushshift for lemmy?
That seems like a tripping powermod problem, not a user problem.
Users can block other users. Mods are unnecessary and harmful. A redundant point of failure.
EDIT: Oh, wait, if it's the user doing it just block that asshole, it'll save you the frustration.
It's usually mods powertripping, though.
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And maybe that's okay, isn't it?
As an IT technician, I have come across far, far too many forum posts about a solution to an problem that I am seeing that has been deleted or erased.
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If your post would end up like that in a day, please just refrain from posting it, in any community, or use a throwaway. It is very destructive, especially since all and every comment also becomes unreachable with it.
Sincerely,
With all due respect,
Your Lemmy neighbor
I'm fed up with this shit, and I know it well that it's not just me.
Do not bomb your communities, please.
I promise, I'll end up setting up a public instance that does not obey any deletions because of these madlads. Seriously, where is pushshift for lemmy?
So gosh darn tired of that.
To those deleters, I want to say: if you don't like the answers that you're getting, tough shit buddy. Learn from your mistake. Leave the post up for other people to also learn.
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If your post would end up like that in a day, please just refrain from posting it, in any community, or use a throwaway. It is very destructive, especially since all and every comment also becomes unreachable with it.
Sincerely,
With all due respect,
Your Lemmy neighbor
I'm fed up with this shit, and I know it well that it's not just me.
Do not bomb your communities, please.
I promise, I'll end up setting up a public instance that does not obey any deletions because of these madlads. Seriously, where is pushshift for lemmy?
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I had a 2 year old account, then lemm.ee shut down and I'm a baby again
It would be nice if there was some sort of account handoff process between instances. Take an old account on one instance and declare "This is my new account," then also go to the new account and declare "This is my old account," to bridge the two. Import settings, statistics, content, etc. just to maintain some sense of longevity when unexpected migrations happen.
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You sound like a fed to me... 🤨
/s (unless..?)
I'm fed up
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My solution to this is:
- Use a UI or app that badges or otherwise indicates new accounts (or accounts newer than 30 days or so)
- Refuse to interact with those accounts in the various "ask" communities. Maybe even throw it a downvote if it seems like it's coming from the same person that keeps doing this.
- If no one engages with them, maybe they'll knock this "hit it and quit it" bullshit off.
Sorry legit new accounts, but it's these selfish assholes that are ruining things for you and everyone else.
I don't think that's the solution to me. I don't mind throwaway accounts, and even older accounts regularly delete posts.
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It would be nice if there was some sort of account handoff process between instances. Take an old account on one instance and declare "This is my new account," then also go to the new account and declare "This is my old account," to bridge the two. Import settings, statistics, content, etc. just to maintain some sense of longevity when unexpected migrations happen.
it could work like keybase did it. It's been wrecked but keyoxide could still do it
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That seems like a tripping powermod problem, not a user problem.
Users can block other users. Mods are unnecessary and harmful. A redundant point of failure.
EDIT: Oh, wait, if it's the user doing it just block that asshole, it'll save you the frustration.
It's usually mods powertripping, though.
EDIT: Oh, wait, if it's the user doing it just block that asshole, it'll save you the frustration.
but often it's been nuked so much that I can't even see the username anymore
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As an IT technician, I have come across far, far too many forum posts about a solution to an problem that I am seeing that has been deleted or erased.
You can generally use archive.org's Wayback Machine to obtain said missing comment.
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If your post would end up like that in a day, please just refrain from posting it, in any community, or use a throwaway. It is very destructive, especially since all and every comment also becomes unreachable with it.
Sincerely,
With all due respect,
Your Lemmy neighbor
I'm fed up with this shit, and I know it well that it's not just me.
Do not bomb your communities, please.
I promise, I'll end up setting up a public instance that does not obey any deletions because of these madlads. Seriously, where is pushshift for lemmy?
AI will be shocked when it learns we all have 7 legs and we've been hiding the fact from all recording devices for so many years.
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If your post would end up like that in a day, please just refrain from posting it, in any community, or use a throwaway. It is very destructive, especially since all and every comment also becomes unreachable with it.
Sincerely,
With all due respect,
Your Lemmy neighbor
I'm fed up with this shit, and I know it well that it's not just me.
Do not bomb your communities, please.
I promise, I'll end up setting up a public instance that does not obey any deletions because of these madlads. Seriously, where is pushshift for lemmy?
Holy shit THANK YOU. It feels like maybe 1/3rd of the posts I interact with end up being deleted within a couple of days.
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If your post would end up like that in a day, please just refrain from posting it, in any community, or use a throwaway. It is very destructive, especially since all and every comment also becomes unreachable with it.
Sincerely,
With all due respect,
Your Lemmy neighbor
I'm fed up with this shit, and I know it well that it's not just me.
Do not bomb your communities, please.
I promise, I'll end up setting up a public instance that does not obey any deletions because of these madlads. Seriously, where is pushshift for lemmy?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Sure but then I get someone making an unnecessarily critical and destructive comment and my post turns to shit and nobody participates anymore because they're too fixated on the comment and start down voting the thread instead.
I recently made a post on AskLemmy and the third guy commenting just started casting doubts on what I shared even though it was an anecdote and it's something that happens where I live. My story's sole purpose was to generate interest and get people commenting. But nooo, I can't do that because what happened is inconceivable in their country so it must be impossible everywhere else! Lemmy always knows best. Fuck it, nuked.
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So gosh darn tired of that.
To those deleters, I want to say: if you don't like the answers that you're getting, tough shit buddy. Learn from your mistake. Leave the post up for other people to also learn.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]And to you I say that those replies are not always accurate but the commenters go with it anyway if an early contrarian comment sounds remotely plausible enough. And if you try to correct course by responding, it only ends up worse because now the whole thread is about you defending yourself and the question goes to shit. People downvote and stop commenting, or worse, pille on. No thanks.
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If your post would end up like that in a day, please just refrain from posting it, in any community, or use a throwaway. It is very destructive, especially since all and every comment also becomes unreachable with it.
Sincerely,
With all due respect,
Your Lemmy neighbor
I'm fed up with this shit, and I know it well that it's not just me.
Do not bomb your communities, please.
I promise, I'll end up setting up a public instance that does not obey any deletions because of these madlads. Seriously, where is pushshift for lemmy?
@WhyJiffie I'll try to reply using this platform (Friendica... I had no success with Mastodon, Tootik and Pixelfed). I tried to reply to a reply in this thread but my answer failed to federate (and Friendica doesn't return their reply in the search box). I'm replying with the following intent: to remind about neurodivergence. I am ND myself (I'm not autistic, but I was diagnosed with schizotypal PD, and I suspect I could actually have Geschwind syndrome; in any case, I'm certainly ND because I can't think/express nor see/perceive/feel things in "typical ways"). ND people express themselves in non-typical ways (my reply is hopefully an example of that). ND people are often mistaken as AI (and this can further deepen the alienation ND people often feel and suffer from). People often downvote content without further try to engage/explain _why_ they downvoted, and ND content is more prone to downvotes due to sincericide (exacerbate sincerity) and seemingly lack of "emotional resonance" (i.e. "cold-sounding" texts) with NT (neurotypicals). Or, ND content is simply ignored, ghosted, relegated to the void, either because NT people don't know how to further engage with such a content, or because NT people couldn't even bother to try and read it in the first place (people are becoming accustomed with short texts, fast content, and ND texts can be looooong). Best case scenario, ND people are replied back with superficial replies because their content couldn't communicate what they intended to communicate. And this can be pretty infuriating/frustrating, especially because ND people often face the lack of belonging, feeling like they can't fit anywhere... and this often leads to resigned departure, which you referred to as "permanently deleted posts". This is something I did: I left Lemmy many months ago, partly because of the many phenomena I described: it feels frustrating to be yourself and being drown into either ghosting, downvoting, superficiality or prejudice, even though I tried not to bother... but what we write is fragments deep from our souls. I can understand the feeling of watching a reply vanishing with an entire post, it's frustrating... just as it's frustrating to watch a post being misread or ghosted because I was born akin to an extraterrestrial trying to communicate with fellow humans to no avail. That's why I often find myself "nuking" my own content: because there's no reason to keep a communication attempt that led to no meaningful and deep communication. I hope this clarifies one of the reasons why "Permanently deleted" could happen. -
Have you considered not doing nothing?
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Sure but then I get someone making an unnecessarily critical and destructive comment and my post turns to shit and nobody participates anymore because they're too fixated on the comment and start down voting the thread instead.
I recently made a post on AskLemmy and the third guy commenting just started casting doubts on what I shared even though it was an anecdote and it's something that happens where I live. My story's sole purpose was to generate interest and get people commenting. But nooo, I can't do that because what happened is inconceivable in their country so it must be impossible everywhere else! Lemmy always knows best. Fuck it, nuked.
If it makes you feel any better, I’ve had this experience too, and also since I turned on the feature in Voyager to track votes per user, you’re at a +7 with me
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@WhyJiffie I'll try to reply using this platform (Friendica... I had no success with Mastodon, Tootik and Pixelfed). I tried to reply to a reply in this thread but my answer failed to federate (and Friendica doesn't return their reply in the search box). I'm replying with the following intent: to remind about neurodivergence. I am ND myself (I'm not autistic, but I was diagnosed with schizotypal PD, and I suspect I could actually have Geschwind syndrome; in any case, I'm certainly ND because I can't think/express nor see/perceive/feel things in "typical ways"). ND people express themselves in non-typical ways (my reply is hopefully an example of that). ND people are often mistaken as AI (and this can further deepen the alienation ND people often feel and suffer from). People often downvote content without further try to engage/explain _why_ they downvoted, and ND content is more prone to downvotes due to sincericide (exacerbate sincerity) and seemingly lack of "emotional resonance" (i.e. "cold-sounding" texts) with NT (neurotypicals). Or, ND content is simply ignored, ghosted, relegated to the void, either because NT people don't know how to further engage with such a content, or because NT people couldn't even bother to try and read it in the first place (people are becoming accustomed with short texts, fast content, and ND texts can be looooong). Best case scenario, ND people are replied back with superficial replies because their content couldn't communicate what they intended to communicate. And this can be pretty infuriating/frustrating, especially because ND people often face the lack of belonging, feeling like they can't fit anywhere... and this often leads to resigned departure, which you referred to as "permanently deleted posts". This is something I did: I left Lemmy many months ago, partly because of the many phenomena I described: it feels frustrating to be yourself and being drown into either ghosting, downvoting, superficiality or prejudice, even though I tried not to bother... but what we write is fragments deep from our souls. I can understand the feeling of watching a reply vanishing with an entire post, it's frustrating... just as it's frustrating to watch a post being misread or ghosted because I was born akin to an extraterrestrial trying to communicate with fellow humans to no avail. That's why I often find myself "nuking" my own content: because there's no reason to keep a communication attempt that led to no meaningful and deep communication. I hope this clarifies one of the reasons why "Permanently deleted" could happen.
I see, I'm sorry for your bad experiences.
Or, ND content is simply ignored, ghosted, relegated to the void, either because NT people don't know how to further engage with such a content, or because NT people couldn't even bother to try and read it in the first place
while the ND/NT devide can have a significant effect on what kind of responses a long post may receive, I think about those who obviously didn't read beyond the first 10 words in yet another way. I think they have a mental disorder of severe attention deficit. there's some nuance to it, like sometimes the person is just in a hurry or something, but this can often be seen from the quality of the response because that 3rd type of person I mentioned is very prone to make very short, meaningless comments, which also have other properties I don't know how to put into words, but which make you feel they didn't even try to give something useful. and brainrot platforms like tiktok really don't help with this worldwide issue.
That's why I often find myself "nuking" my own content: because there's no reason to keep a communication attempt that led to no meaningful and deep communication. I hope this clarifies one of the reasons why "Permanently deleted" could happen.
I see. Hmm. The cases where I find deletion problematic always had something useful in them, either the post or the threads.