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What's one beauty standard that you don't agree with?

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  • O [email protected]

    Yes but the women in question expect a full, thick and groomed beard, not just maintained.

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    I really don't think that kind of expectation is that common.

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      I hate BMI. I am working on losing weight, but I am gaining muscle at the same rate I'm losing fat, so my weight has hardly changed. None of my clothes fit anymore and I am much slimmer, but still considered obese. I'm not even weighing myself regularly at this point. I'm just going by how I look and feel and my clothes size.

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      Yup, don't bother too much with BMI, like I said, I've been obese all my life, even when I was in better shape than almost anyone I knew and was training and beating people that looked a lot better than me.

      If you want to show just how absurd it is, look at the world strongest man, his BMI is 40.7 which puts him as an obese type 3, even now that I'm in the worst shape of my life I'm not in that category.

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        I like how the standard has fractured and there isn't really a standard now, but I do also kind of like the obviously fake bodies being the standard because an insistence on natural beauty is more oppressive than the idea of beauty as something you do, an art or achievement, even a purchase.

        If beauty like that is something you choose, I am free to choose it or not. If it's just by luck of birth, that sucks so bad. When I was a gawky tall stick insect of a teenager and the only girls considered pretty were the short and stacked, there was no way to meet that standard.

        Later the tide shifted but as I didn't grow up feeling my body could ever be mainstream sexy, I didn't get attached to that - I do have hangups but they are my own. I just try to stay in shape, have good hair, take care of my skin and let the rest be.

        But I think my unpopular opinion is beauty as something you do - makeup, style, fitness, is more democratic than insistence on symmetry of features or a particular height or build, the idea of "natural beauty" is worse. Beauty should be a choice, a hobby, a project, do or not.

        In terms of what I do not currently understand, it's the moustaches. Young men with weedy little moustaches, straight men with moustaches that scream gay to me, the unopposed highway patrol/1980s gay man moustache I can't wait for that trend to pass.

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          Yup, don't bother too much with BMI, like I said, I've been obese all my life, even when I was in better shape than almost anyone I knew and was training and beating people that looked a lot better than me.

          If you want to show just how absurd it is, look at the world strongest man, his BMI is 40.7 which puts him as an obese type 3, even now that I'm in the worst shape of my life I'm not in that category.

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          Holy shit that's wild. Is BMI good for anything, then? Or does it need abandoned?

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            #117

            I can't think of a single beauty standard I do like. Everyone is beautiful in some way. Even the people who are regarded as ugly by the majority.

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              Holy shit that's wild. Is BMI good for anything, then? Or does it need abandoned?

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              It's a general guideline that's accurate for average people that live average lives, but if you're too tall, too short, too muscled, have lower or higher bone density, etc it can be very inaccurate. No doctor takes any action on this alone, but it can be a guideline to ask you for blood works or other studies to ensure things are okay. There are better ways to measure body fat percentage, but that requires special instruments and also are usually dependent on where your body stores fat, so you might not have ever done them before.

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              • beigeagenda@lemmy.caB [email protected]

                I am more into spaces, but as long as the indentation is done consistently i can tolerate tabs.

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                I mean, how could using tabs not be consistent when only comparing to spaces? Seems to me like spaces give infinitely more opportunity to fuck up indentation.

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                  Yes! Thats it!

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                  She got six eyebrows and a widows peak!

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                  • V [email protected]

                    Overly full lips. There's a bandwidth there where it should fit the rest of the facial features. Filling them up with collagen just almost never looks good.

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                    Personally, I'd extend it to the entirety of the bimbo look. Why the fuck would anyone want to look like a cheap sex doll!? (ok well I can kinda' understand it as a fetish thing, but when ever parts of that look extend to "beauty" like huge lips... ugggh)

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                      Edit: Also, I think Karen Allen wore overalls at least once in Indiana Jones. Kinda hot, in an unpolished way.

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                      Those are coveralls. Or a jumpsuit, depending.

                      These are overalls:

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                        Calling anything about beauty a standard.

                        Obviously fake anything. Boobs. Lips. Butt.

                        Trying too hard in general. Just be you.

                        I get we're not perfect and we all have insecurities. Why are they called love handles? But people are just people. We're all human.

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                        • O [email protected]

                          Beards. I never understood why some women find it so sexy. But I am okay with people having different tastes. What is icky is that some women have made such a huge deal about them that it gets borderline unfair for men who don’t want to bother with grooming or those who cannot grow a full beard.

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                          Fun facial hair is awesome. Love a nice beard or mustache or sideburns. I draw the line at mustache wax tho. It grosses me out for some reason.

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                            Fake eye lashes. Holy God do they look stupid but somehow are so normalized. No idea how some women find the courage to walk outside with what look to me like Muppet eyes.

                            For the love of God ladies, tone it down. Your eyes are beautiful as they are! Mascara is one thing, but if I feel a fucking breeze every time you blink, it’s gone too far.

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                            It’s strange that this has made a comeback. It was a thing in the 1960s. And it’s a pain in the ass.

                            I think fake eyelashes can look flattering on older people when they are done right. As you age, your lids start to droop and your eye sockets recede. Fake eyelashes can help provide better definition in those cases.

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                              Overalls. Can't handle em

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                              Overalls are awesome. Especially when worn by a handsome guy without a shirt underneath.

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                                Most of them, but by far makeup.

                                If someone enjoys it and wants to, I don't judge.

                                But I seriously never saw a person who looks better with makeup. Even light makeup ( which can look good) still looks worse than just natural.

                                Also there is this vicious cycle where heavy makeup users have worse skin and more pimples so they feel pressure to but heavier makeup, which in turn worsens the skin condition.

                                People, be happy, love yourself, you are pretty for who you are.

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                                  I inherently detest the concept of a "beauty standard". Something so subjective to each individual experience as "beauty" shouldn't have a standard, and a mentality or social culture that tries to establish or reinforce them is something I believe to be highly problematic.

                                  Like in this very post, all the people who are admonishing body modification (injections, implants, piercings, tattoos, etc...). That has been a thing humans have done since ancient times. It is just a form of personal expression, there is nothing inherently wrong with the practice itself. It is the social expectations that makes those things appear uncomfortable at first glance instead of just a different but equally valid form of personal expression. A lot of the comments around them are very judgmental of the assumed reasons behind doing it, though, and it is because of societal "beauty standards" that people behave and think this way.

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                                    I don't like big boobs almost ever.

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                                      wow holy racist batman

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                                      The racist is the one bitching about long nails, a predominant standard of beauty in black culture, and how much it makes them uncomfortable.

                                      Like, no one needs to hear your judgement of someone else's choice of personal expression. Ever heard the phrase "ain't got nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all"? This is where that applies.

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                                        welcome to the evening news, man creates thread so he can bitch about Black women. more at 5 when he phones back in to say how he's entitled to his opinion.

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                                        Truly ironic people are trying to say you're the racist for calling someone else out for espousing racist rhetoric.

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                                          I don't think tattoos have been about rebellion in a long time. It's just art for your body.

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                                          It was always just art for your body.

                                          People who got tattoos wanted to be able to express themselves in the way they desired, by decorating their body with artwork, and didn't appreciate having their decision dictated by arbitrary standards that they did not agree to. They weren't doing it for the sake of rebellion, it was just called rebellion because it went against the social expectations of the time.

                                          People often do not understand the reason behind the act of rebellion and attribute those engaging in the activities as being done for the sake of rebellion itself instead of some deeper cause.

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