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Sunday question: What do you say about Berlin abolishing the 30 km/h speed limit because the air has improved thanks to the 30 km/h speed limit?

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  • C [email protected]

    I'm curious, do they fire all sysadmins on days where everything goes smoothly and rehire new ones the day after?

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    Don't give them ideas.

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    • V [email protected]

      I was in Berlin some years ago (2018?) and traffic is what will make me never ever put my foot there again.

      Eating on the terrace of a cozy restaurant in the middle of the city? A fucking mega truck hauling 40 tons of wood thundering by at 70km/h raising so much dust from the street you get it in your food. Mmmm 🙋🏼‍♀️.

      It's everywhere even in their mega park you hear traffic traffic traffic, I know Germans love their cars and so, but man, keep it away from the city centre?

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      May I ask what area you were in? Because there are many restaurants that are not near streets a lorry would usually take (esp. at those speeds).

      And I don't really hear (or see) the traffic in most parks I vistit.

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      • lgsp@feddit.itL [email protected]

        EDIT: changed article link and title to comply with rules (that I didn't read 😛). The article that is linked now, links to the previous one (this one https://www.rbb24.de/politik/beitrag/2025/06/senatsverwaltung-verkehr-berlin-tempo-30.htm), and the title is the google translated of the new article, as close as original German as I can

        The absurdity of the proposal is already in the title, and shows how motonormativity is spread all over the world.

        Berlin has a very good public transit system, and a few 30 km/h zones cannot be that bad.

        I would love to hear opinions from someone who lives there!

        crossposted from: https://mastodon.uno/users/rivoluzioneurbanamobilita/statuses/114732266280428499

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        Is this really 30? That seems very slow. 20 would help even more but there are other disadvantages to consider other than just the pollution

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        • N [email protected]

          May I ask what area you were in? Because there are many restaurants that are not near streets a lorry would usually take (esp. at those speeds).

          And I don't really hear (or see) the traffic in most parks I vistit.

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          I don't remember perfectly, but between berlin mittel (got that from google maps, city-centre just north of the Sprée) and a bit to the north I think, still inside the city centre.

          Tiergarten has a fucking motorway cutting it in half BTW 😅

          Come to Paris for a change, there it's the people who will annoy you, not the cars 😁

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          • R [email protected]

            If you're on a diet that will make you lose weight you can't stay on that diet when you want to keep your weight. Doesn't mean you have to go back to the diet that made you fat. This really is just very basic common sense.

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            Well get a diet that makes you stay on your target weight. Those fad diets will just not work, as you just regain the weight when you stop.

            Diet also doesn't mean weight-losing. You can have a cheese-less diet (god forbid) for example.

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            • lgsp@feddit.itL [email protected]

              EDIT: changed article link and title to comply with rules (that I didn't read 😛). The article that is linked now, links to the previous one (this one https://www.rbb24.de/politik/beitrag/2025/06/senatsverwaltung-verkehr-berlin-tempo-30.htm), and the title is the google translated of the new article, as close as original German as I can

              The absurdity of the proposal is already in the title, and shows how motonormativity is spread all over the world.

              Berlin has a very good public transit system, and a few 30 km/h zones cannot be that bad.

              I would love to hear opinions from someone who lives there!

              crossposted from: https://mastodon.uno/users/rivoluzioneurbanamobilita/statuses/114732266280428499

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              #28

              Hey and in Freiburg they just cancelled the LEZ because the air quality improved...

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              • J [email protected]

                More like stopping an antibiotic course mid-way.

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                #29

                Or stopping your blood pressure medicine because you don't have high blood pressure anymore.

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                • C [email protected]

                  I'm curious, do they fire all sysadmins on days where everything goes smoothly and rehire new ones the day after?

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                  They do. The classic joke is that bosses will complain about paying IT/devops/SRE regardless of whether or not shit is broken.

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                  • R [email protected]

                    If you're on a diet that will make you lose weight you can't stay on that diet when you want to keep your weight. Doesn't mean you have to go back to the diet that made you fat. This really is just very basic common sense.

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                    Reality unfortunately rarely follows "basic common sence". And all the research shows that for most people in most cases restrictive diets only give temporary results.

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                    • lgsp@feddit.itL [email protected]

                      EDIT: changed article link and title to comply with rules (that I didn't read 😛). The article that is linked now, links to the previous one (this one https://www.rbb24.de/politik/beitrag/2025/06/senatsverwaltung-verkehr-berlin-tempo-30.htm), and the title is the google translated of the new article, as close as original German as I can

                      The absurdity of the proposal is already in the title, and shows how motonormativity is spread all over the world.

                      Berlin has a very good public transit system, and a few 30 km/h zones cannot be that bad.

                      I would love to hear opinions from someone who lives there!

                      crossposted from: https://mastodon.uno/users/rivoluzioneurbanamobilita/statuses/114732266280428499

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                      As stupid as this sounds, eventually someone is going to suggest letting grocery stores be open on Sunday and this will usher in what German historians call "Der Modern Age". There will be a domino effect... Rathaus will get Internet, Doctors will forgo fax for email and Aldi will finally bring Trader Joe's to the motherland. We will slowly creep into the 21st century. One pointless rule at a time.

                      This stupid speed limit thing will be remembered as the catalyst of progress in the race to catch up to their neighbors.

                      ( /s Because Germany hates change )

                      Queue up the: "I'm entitled to a peaceful Sunday" folks.

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