How im also raising my little guy
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It's almost like prion disease is rare. If you can get vCJD from eating meat of a cow that had BSE, you can very likely also get it from eating a human that had vCJD. Particularly given that it is proven to be transmissable via blood transfusion. And that cows can get BSE from eating other cows. BSE outbreaks are also pretty much the only instance in which we actually have enough data on cannibalism and the potential of disease spread.
The reason we don't have many cases is that we don't eat people and that the diseases that you're likely to contract from doing so that don't die from cooking are very rare. Add to that that even cultures that do consume human meat generally only do so to a very limited degree (and often from people that died violently rather than disease or old age), and of course not much has been recorded.
Since prions can occur spontaneously, it is very possible that a culture of frequently consuming human meat indiscriminately could even eventually lead to some new prion disease spreading which happens to transmit via meat consumption at an above average rate.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I think I said most of that already, I'm sorry I'm not quite sure what your point is. The risk of getting a prion disease is already extremely low, and even within that the majority of CJD infections are spontaneous. That's sure the consensus in the literature, fwiw. An above average transmission rate would therefore be spectacularly unspectacular, given how few new cases would be needed to achieve that.
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Nnnno, you can hold that position independent of your feelings towards death. I am curious why you think it's unnecessary to do that, though. It's (relatively) common to use human remains for destructive testing in all manner of experiments. Is the problem that they're filming it instead of publishing the skull fracture patterns of knapped stone clubs in the journal of archeology? This really isn't any worse than, say, seeing how long it takes for human remains to fully liquefy when sealed in plastic and subjected to various conditions (more importantly, the rate at which organs decay while submerged in that soup). Is it worse than melting regions of a body with acid to test a theoretical new skin-grafting technique? Flaying their skin and muscles from the bone then macerating it to a homogeneous mixture to test for microplastic distribution rates in the 35-40 Indonesian Female demographic? Anything that happens to remains on a body farm? Those are all real examples. Thinking what they did is somehow worse than what bodies normally go through, that's the romantic view of death I was referring to.
Is the problem that they're filming it instead of publishing the skull fracture patterns of knapped stone clubs in the journal of archeology?
The problem is that "what happens when a superhuman being with a ring on punches you in the forehead" isn't exactly an important question to answer.
This really isn't any worse than, say, seeing how long it takes for human remains to fully liquefy when sealed in plastic and subjected to various conditions (more importantly, the rate at which organs decay while submerged in that soup). Is it worse than melting regions of a body with acid to test a theoretical new skin-grafting technique? Flaying their skin and muscles from the bone then macerating it to a homogeneous mixture to test for microplastic distribution rates in the 35-40 Indonesian Female demographic?
Again, yes. As it is not for science, it is for entertainment. Adam and Jamie are not scientists, they are special effects artists. And they are not conducting experiments, they are staging entertainment. They are not in a lab, they are in a special effects warehouse. They are not publishing their findings to Nature, they are editing them for a television audience. Mythbusters is not hard science, it is science themed entertainment. Which is fine. But these skulls belonged to real people and there is a power dynamic involved in where they come from, and who buys them, and what they're used for.
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Omg the Incredible Machine!!!! Where can I play it, its been so long!
I think the copyright expired and you can just download it for free, maybe its even on the internet archive. I got mine from abandonware or something like that.
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Is the problem that they're filming it instead of publishing the skull fracture patterns of knapped stone clubs in the journal of archeology?
The problem is that "what happens when a superhuman being with a ring on punches you in the forehead" isn't exactly an important question to answer.
This really isn't any worse than, say, seeing how long it takes for human remains to fully liquefy when sealed in plastic and subjected to various conditions (more importantly, the rate at which organs decay while submerged in that soup). Is it worse than melting regions of a body with acid to test a theoretical new skin-grafting technique? Flaying their skin and muscles from the bone then macerating it to a homogeneous mixture to test for microplastic distribution rates in the 35-40 Indonesian Female demographic?
Again, yes. As it is not for science, it is for entertainment. Adam and Jamie are not scientists, they are special effects artists. And they are not conducting experiments, they are staging entertainment. They are not in a lab, they are in a special effects warehouse. They are not publishing their findings to Nature, they are editing them for a television audience. Mythbusters is not hard science, it is science themed entertainment. Which is fine. But these skulls belonged to real people and there is a power dynamic involved in where they come from, and who buys them, and what they're used for.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]You can't see the applicability in investigating the creation of surface indications of handheld objects on skin being subjected to various degrees of force, or demonstrating a method of investigating that question to the general television viewing public? Not even being slightly sarcastic or insincere here, I'm very curious what qualities qualify something as being 'science' to you. Not being in a lab excludes archaeology, and not publishing your findings to Nature excludes
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Lotr is overrated, there i said it
I agree. I enjoy it, but I'm not desperate for more. (I feel the same about the original Star Wars as well)
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Yeah me too. I'm just thinking it over when I can introduce it to my boy. He's still too young, but probably a couple of years. I think I was like 11
I watched it at 11, spent half the movie thinking that I had half a medieval movie on the VCR tape (
) because it didn't make any sense.At the black knight scene I got the joke and rewatched the whole thing several times a month for a while.
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My son wants to "game" like most other kids at his class. So I got an old laptop, installed linux mint on it with dosbox. He loves lemmings, the incredible machine 2 and rollercoaster tycoon
I fear that he won’t get many friends this way
Mainstream might be boring but it’s an easy way to connect with people
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I rewatched Mythbusters recently. It's pretty disturbing, especially in the early seasons, how often they use actual human remains for what is essentially light entertainment. Like, they'll destroy an actual human skull for shits and giggles. They had disproved the myth on setting off an airbag with a slim jim and firing it into the head of a would be car jacker, but still had to replicate the results, so just shot a slim jim into an actual human skull, cheering and laughing as it's decimated. That was an actual person's skull. How they sourced it, and where the source acquired it, who knows. I'm fairly certain there is a family somewhere though that would be mortified.
I personally don’t give a fuck but yea others might not like it
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Lotr is overrated, there i said it
If you want to put a little note saying 'the movies are overrated' sure, we can have a debate about that. Fantasy films really aren't for everyone, and adapting LotR is definitely not an easy task.
If you genuinely mean the books as well, idk what to tell you. The history of the fantasy genre after LotR proves you're wrong.
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God lotr fans are insufferable.
Says a 40k fan.
At the very least the LotR fandom isn't infested with Nazi's that fail to understand the very basic themes of 40k.
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Throwing Discworld into the mix
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you don't need to try so hard, just don't let him have weird ideas about gender and hope he befriends at least one girl. that'll be enough. all these idiots need is a female friend going "don't be an idiot that's not how things work".
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I fear that he won’t get many friends this way
Mainstream might be boring but it’s an easy way to connect with people
I didn't get many friends the old fashioned way and I turned out fine in the end.
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Cosmos (the original)
Connections with James Burke
Secret Life of Machines
All of David MacAulay’s books
The way things work is one of my favourite books. I still have the copy I got as a kid!
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My son wants to "game" like most other kids at his class. So I got an old laptop, installed linux mint on it with dosbox. He loves lemmings, the incredible machine 2 and rollercoaster tycoon
Gotta get Jill of the Jungle on that bad boy
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I don’t like being so seen.
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I rewatched Mythbusters recently. It's pretty disturbing, especially in the early seasons, how often they use actual human remains for what is essentially light entertainment. Like, they'll destroy an actual human skull for shits and giggles. They had disproved the myth on setting off an airbag with a slim jim and firing it into the head of a would be car jacker, but still had to replicate the results, so just shot a slim jim into an actual human skull, cheering and laughing as it's decimated. That was an actual person's skull. How they sourced it, and where the source acquired it, who knows. I'm fairly certain there is a family somewhere though that would be mortified.
I'm fine with that. I mean, bodies aren't really people anymore. The people part flickers out to nothingness, leaving the meat husk.
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You can't see the applicability in investigating the creation of surface indications of handheld objects on skin being subjected to various degrees of force, or demonstrating a method of investigating that question to the general television viewing public? Not even being slightly sarcastic or insincere here, I'm very curious what qualities qualify something as being 'science' to you. Not being in a lab excludes archaeology, and not publishing your findings to Nature excludes
methe unfathomably vast majority of scientists from counting as 'scientists'.wrote on last edited by [email protected]The priority on Mythbusters is always entertainment first, not science. It's not best practices, it's what is visually appealing. It's not data driven, it's shooting schedule. The skulls are not necessary tools, they are props. Adam Savage himself states that the goal is to "replicate the circumstances, then duplicate the results", or in other words, create a spectical. Which again, is fine, but is not hard science. If you can't tell the difference between hard science and television I don't know what to do for you.
But I suspect you understand this already, and are motivated more by the excitement of eliciting a response by adopting a posture of "enlightened" objectivty, blowing the minds of us lesser beings, us superstitious cave dwellers, than by legitimately considering the finer points of profiting off of human remains or the needless destruction therof.
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I fear that he won’t get many friends this way
Mainstream might be boring but it’s an easy way to connect with people
This was the argument I used in high school when I wanted an Xbox 360. My parents were super reluctant given the cost, and then I told them I have nothing to talk about with friends in the hallways and I'm left out of conversations (I was). They reconsidered and eventually folded, and I was very appreciative
