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Yeah, exactly. Winters in LA or LA might be different. But, winters in places with months and months of snow are awful. You can't do much outside because it's too cold. You can't have your windows open to get some fresh air because it's too cold. You can dress properly to do outdoor activities, but it often requires so many layers that it's really uncomfortable. Plus, you can't have any gaps. Your neck, wrists, ankles are often places where the cold can get in, or worse they can get wet and being cold and wet is awful.
In addition, the world is just miserable in winter. There's almost nothing alive outside other than other humans. No grass, many trees lose all their leaves, birds migrate away, everything is shades of grey or brown. Christmas can be fun, and it's no coincidence that it's celebrated almost exactly on the darkest day of the year. That's when we need a lot of pretty lights and cheer. But, Christmas is just the beginning of winter. What follows is months of gloomy grey cold.
And, while there are outdoor winter sports, you need special footwear for all of them because of the snow and ice. You can't even walk across a field or a park without extra effort because of all the snow. Even key winter sports like skating or hockey, if played outside, require that you at a minimum spend a lot of time shovelling all the snow off the ice surface. For a good experience you also have to flood and smooth the ice periodically. So, it's a lot of work.
Having said all that, if I had to choose between -30 and +40, I'd probably choose -30, because at least you can put on appropriate gear for that and spend some time outside doing something fun. It may be dark and it may be grey, but it's possible to dress for the weather. When it's too hot, you really can't spend any time outside, without risking your life, and it certainly isn't possible to do anything active. But if the choice is between -30 and +30, give me the +30 any day.
Winters in LA or LA
You... I like you.
Also, you're sliiiightly overstating how little you can do in the summer hot times. It's not a "risking your life" scenario every time... Recreation just switches to an early morning or post-sundown schedule. I usually still get 3-4 hours of sports activities on a saturday or sunday. Plus you get fun things like all the animals that are crepuscular being out and about, so you'll have ospreys flying over your heads with a fish, or squirrels doing races around the fencetops.
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Completely disagree. Summer is my favorite season and would remain so in the complete absence of PR.
This post reminds me of a friend in the ad business who told me people only think iced drinks taste better because in the early 1900s some advertising genius created a campaign to convince people of that. No, sorry, cold drinks are more refreshing. The ancient Romans thought so too, and used to haul ice down from the Alps, centuries before the advertising industry even existed.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]There's a difference between refreshing and better tasting though. Hell, all the beer companies in america know that, which is why you get things like the coors campaign of the mountains changing color if the beer can is cold enough, because cold suppresses your ability to taste. They know they taste like shit but because they're so cold they are 'refreshing.'
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The fame came from a time where the winters were harsh and summers more bland. We are at the tail end of a mini ice age, now the tendency is to winters been suave and summers become hotter. And, with global warming, things are accelerated.
You'd have to go back to the 19th century for those non-fossil carbon dioxide variations to matter.
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I like heat under my own circumstances, summer is definitely not one of them
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As someone from the south I was 100% for this, but now I live in the north and I can kinda see it. But I'll never forgive summer for being a hot and humid bastard for most of my life.
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You'd have to go back to the 19th century for those non-fossil carbon dioxide variations to matter.
The notion of nice summers is way older than that, probably.
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You ever looked at a stock image search of "Arab guy in desert" and wondered why they are wearing all that clothing?
It’s pretty easily explained and you can find reasons and anecdotes on YouTube, etc! Garments can do an effective job of keeping solar radiation off of you and regulate temperature! Obviously, culture and religion play a part as well
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It’s all situational. If it’s hot and humid but I’m near a beach, fuck yes, summer rules. If it’s hot and humid and I’m in a big city, dear lord help me, summer sucks.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Also, I live in the north, so my options are:
- winter - frigid weather where the roads are an ice rink
- spring - fluctuates between cold (random snow storm) and hot, like a woman going through menopause (i.e. one day nearly 100F, the next day there's snow)
- summer - pretty consistently hot
- fall - random storms, school starting (I have kids), and an intro to the aforementioned ice-rink
So yeah, summer is pretty decent, given the other options.
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4 seasons
Lol, what year is it, 2005?
You will have two seasons and you will like it!
Hey, we have four:
- winter - random snow storms
- spring - mixed snow and 100F weather
- summer - 100F all summer long
- fall - crazy wind storms, w/ occasional snow storms
They're all more extreme versions of what we had in 2005.
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That's a lot of days. It's hard for us all to find a good way to spend it.
I don't understand this, if I didn't have to work for >100 days, I'd have a blast! Our summer break starts a bit earlier than most places (end of May) and school starts a bit earlier than many places (middle of August), and we have already visited the pool multiple times, visited family across the country, done some hikes, and done some bike rides. The rest of the summer is busy as well, with visiting the other side of the family next month, celebrating Independence Day (I'm in the US), and doing some camping trips.
If you can't fill 3-ish months of free time, that's on you. I, for one, am going to make sure I and my kids enjoy it.
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Less rain but more humidity
Not in my area (Utah), we don't know anything about this "humidity" thing you speak of. Even our snow is dry.
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It’s pretty easily explained and you can find reasons and anecdotes on YouTube, etc! Garments can do an effective job of keeping solar radiation off of you and regulate temperature! Obviously, culture and religion play a part as well
Yeah I was hinting at that lmao. "Getting naked isn't the only or the best option for summer."
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I don't understand this, if I didn't have to work for >100 days, I'd have a blast! Our summer break starts a bit earlier than most places (end of May) and school starts a bit earlier than many places (middle of August), and we have already visited the pool multiple times, visited family across the country, done some hikes, and done some bike rides. The rest of the summer is busy as well, with visiting the other side of the family next month, celebrating Independence Day (I'm in the US), and doing some camping trips.
If you can't fill 3-ish months of free time, that's on you. I, for one, am going to make sure I and my kids enjoy it.
It's the Phineas and Ferb theme song. They also have lots of great ideas for filling the time. Sounds like you're rocking it!
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Winters in LA or LA
You... I like you.
Also, you're sliiiightly overstating how little you can do in the summer hot times. It's not a "risking your life" scenario every time... Recreation just switches to an early morning or post-sundown schedule. I usually still get 3-4 hours of sports activities on a saturday or sunday. Plus you get fun things like all the animals that are crepuscular being out and about, so you'll have ospreys flying over your heads with a fish, or squirrels doing races around the fencetops.
You... I like you.
You'd really have liked it if I started talking about how the winters in Ontario, CA are much more pleasant than the ones in Ontario, CA.
Recreation just switches to an early morning or post-sundown schedule.
Ah, right. I hadn't considered that. It's interesting that the places with the most brutal heat are the ones with a relatively early sunset. In 2023 Oslo hit 32 degrees, not that hot by international standards, but combine that with the fact it happened on June 15th and the sun never fully sets at that time of year, and it's hard to find relief.
I usually still get 3-4 hours of sports activities on a saturday or sunday.
Do you live somewhere where the mid-day heat is 35+C? 40+C? To me, those are the only ones where it's truly brutal and I might prefer long, harsh winters. OTOH, human culture hasn't really found a great way to deal with brutally cold winters. There are winter solstice celebrations, but no adjustment of the schedule of life to avoid the worst of the cold. But, in places with really hot summers there's often a tradition of mid-day naps, and I could really get on board with that lifestyle.
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Laugh all you want, at least we don't live in Texas.
I think you don’t understand this gif.
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You... I like you.
You'd really have liked it if I started talking about how the winters in Ontario, CA are much more pleasant than the ones in Ontario, CA.
Recreation just switches to an early morning or post-sundown schedule.
Ah, right. I hadn't considered that. It's interesting that the places with the most brutal heat are the ones with a relatively early sunset. In 2023 Oslo hit 32 degrees, not that hot by international standards, but combine that with the fact it happened on June 15th and the sun never fully sets at that time of year, and it's hard to find relief.
I usually still get 3-4 hours of sports activities on a saturday or sunday.
Do you live somewhere where the mid-day heat is 35+C? 40+C? To me, those are the only ones where it's truly brutal and I might prefer long, harsh winters. OTOH, human culture hasn't really found a great way to deal with brutally cold winters. There are winter solstice celebrations, but no adjustment of the schedule of life to avoid the worst of the cold. But, in places with really hot summers there's often a tradition of mid-day naps, and I could really get on board with that lifestyle.
Uh... off the top of my head calculations, 40C is equivalent to 104F? I think my summer days get to just below that, on average. Hottest recorded ever was 109F, but that was at an airport, so lots of concrete and very high amounts of heat producing engines may have ticked that up a degree or two.
I think my rowing activities average about 30C when we start, and the courtside fun a hair or two higher. We try to stop by the time it gets close to 39C. Even with a breeze you can't really sustain activity by then. That's when we go to get lunch and then, yep, sleep.
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Uh... off the top of my head calculations, 40C is equivalent to 104F? I think my summer days get to just below that, on average. Hottest recorded ever was 109F, but that was at an airport, so lots of concrete and very high amounts of heat producing engines may have ticked that up a degree or two.
I think my rowing activities average about 30C when we start, and the courtside fun a hair or two higher. We try to stop by the time it gets close to 39C. Even with a breeze you can't really sustain activity by then. That's when we go to get lunch and then, yep, sleep.
Ouch. Good to know it's possible though.
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People only say summer is good because we used to get 2 months off during it
I prefer fall, it is cloudy, dreary, cold, damp, no pollen, just overall my vibe.
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It really depends on the climate you're used to living in, the winters here are in the -20c range and yesterday it was 41c. I'm basically happy as long as it doesn't get within 10c of the extremes.
Sounds like Canada anywhere not near the ocean. I'm in that same boat, and I'll happily trade the stupidly hot summers for two extra months of winter.
I miss the moderate summers of Scandinavia in that regard. Sure, it rained a lot, but at least you could go outside without roasting to a crisp in minutes during summer.
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Winter, however, is a cold, dark and wet mess. Truly depressive.
Anyone saying summer 'only has good pr' doesn't have winters like that.
Counterpoint: I lived in Sweden and I miss that winter's gloom. Sure, it's dark before the snow falls but it gives you something to look forward to.
