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    Yes, sorry, used the wrong word, was doing accounting while writing. I meant that an average person looks at the Sunny characters and doesn't think they want to be them, where as I'd argue only George (and maybe Kramer) were that in Seinfeld.

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    George I can kind of understand despite him having a semi decent life but kramer seemed to be a pretty happy guy

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      Sienfeld?

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      I feel like there's gotta be a separate chart entirely for the late-'80s/mid-'90s sitcoms. Friends, Frasier, Seinfeld, Roseanne, Home Improvement, Wings - that's an argument in and of itself.

      But they're definitely not in any box with "Good" under it.

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      • inb4_foundthevegan@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

        You just listed the exact reasons the show is copaganda.

        American Police are not lovable goofballs full of historically oppressed minorities realizing they are the bad guys. They are not "tackling issues", they are lampshading and white washing them. Take the episode where Peralta meets the old detective from the book he loves on and is like

        "Oh wow, old school police were racist... glad they aren't anymore!"

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        And holt reminded him that it's still a narrative that needed to be corrected. What about the one where Terry was profiled? Or holt was denied his promotion?

        It's pretty clear that you wouldn't approve of any cop show that tries to work through these issues, so I'm not going to bother arguing with you. I think they did a great job, a lot of those episodes were very hard to watch because they were confronted with choosing a career under one pretended and then saw the reality. To do that with a comedic tone is incredibly hard, and I think they did well.

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          I wonder where Schitts Creek would fall

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          I'd argue it switches over time from lawful evil to chaotic good.

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            None of them fit as well as Sunny for chaotic evil.

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            Community is pretty damn good for CN

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            • mothra@mander.xyzM [email protected]

              Of course - never watched any of them. To be honest y also didn't watch scrubs either but I saw too many ads about their episodes back in the pre streaming era so I recognize some of the cast. Thanks

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              These are literally the only shows I watch lmao

              Edit: add Modern Family

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                I always forget 30 rock existed

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                It's so good too

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                  I feel like there's gotta be a separate chart entirely for the late-'80s/mid-'90s sitcoms. Friends, Frasier, Seinfeld, Roseanne, Home Improvement, Wings - that's an argument in and of itself.

                  But they're definitely not in any box with "Good" under it.

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                  I think by the rules of the chart meme some have to be good maybe home improvement and friends ot sure about the rest

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                    It's so good too

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                    As long as it's not like the office I might give it a go, couldn't get past episode two

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                      As long as it's not like the office I might give it a go, couldn't get past episode two

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                      30 rock is one of the very few shows that does not have a noticeable dip in quality.

                      It's just really fucking funny from beginning to end.

                      Tina Fey is a god.

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                        Yes, sorry, used the wrong word, was doing accounting while writing. I meant that an average person looks at the Sunny characters and doesn't think they want to be them, where as I'd argue only George (and maybe Kramer) were that in Seinfeld.

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                        Oh yeah, I was backing you up.

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                          I've never been so proud to've moved from CN to CE. 😭🤘🏼

                          (Which seems, by this graph, to be the natural progression.)

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                          • donuts@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                            It's chaotic neutral until you hit the evil timeline

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                            That's still CN, and firmly in the murderhobo category insofar as "haha, it's a phase" handwaving as canonical explanation. 😶

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                              30 rock is one of the very few shows that does not have a noticeable dip in quality.

                              It's just really fucking funny from beginning to end.

                              Tina Fey is a god.

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                              This is a good list of comedies in my opinion (not that into B99 tho) but I think 30 Rock is the most underrated one on here

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                                Huh...my favorites are all of the evils

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                                  This a good 70% of what I watch

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                                  • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techS [email protected]

                                    And holt reminded him that it's still a narrative that needed to be corrected. What about the one where Terry was profiled? Or holt was denied his promotion?

                                    It's pretty clear that you wouldn't approve of any cop show that tries to work through these issues, so I'm not going to bother arguing with you. I think they did a great job, a lot of those episodes were very hard to watch because they were confronted with choosing a career under one pretended and then saw the reality. To do that with a comedic tone is incredibly hard, and I think they did well.

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                                    It's pretty clear that you wouldn't approve of any cop show that tries to work through these issues

                                    Well I definitely wouldn't say that, I'm a big fan of The Wire and We Own This City. All three are different flavors of copaganda, I just feel B99 lampshaded systemic issues instead of confronting them.

                                    However I do agree that there isn't use in arguging, and since we both made our opinions clear you go have a good day. ♥️

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                                    • inb4_foundthevegan@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                                      It's pretty clear that you wouldn't approve of any cop show that tries to work through these issues

                                      Well I definitely wouldn't say that, I'm a big fan of The Wire and We Own This City. All three are different flavors of copaganda, I just feel B99 lampshaded systemic issues instead of confronting them.

                                      However I do agree that there isn't use in arguging, and since we both made our opinions clear you go have a good day. ♥️

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                                      It's pretty clear that you wouldn't approve of any cop show that tries to work through these issues

                                      Well I definitely wouldn't say that, I'm a big fan of The Wire and We Own This City. All three are different flavors of copaganda, I just feel B99 lampshaded systemic issues instead of confronting them.

                                      However I do agree that there isn't use in arguging, and since we both made our opinions clear you go have a good day. ♥️

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                                        I'd argue it switches over time from lawful evil to chaotic good.

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                                        Hmm, I think the family leading up to the show seems like it might be kinda Arrested Development, but during the show I don't think they really ever do anything "evil".

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                                          It's pretty clear that you wouldn't approve of any cop show that tries to work through these issues

                                          Well I definitely wouldn't say that, I'm a big fan of The Wire and We Own This City. All three are different flavors of copaganda, I just feel B99 lampshaded systemic issues instead of confronting them.

                                          However I do agree that there isn't use in arguging, and since we both made our opinions clear you go have a good day. ♥️

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                                          I'll also not argue, not having to write valid arguments makes life a lot easier, but I want to chime in and say both brooklyn 99 and the wire are really good.

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