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Netherlands: 18 year old Ryan al-Najjar was tied up, beaten, and drowned by her father and brothers for being too Westernized

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  • D [email protected]

    Only religions give permission for people to kill their children.

    Don't think that this is the only religion that does this. They all do. They all do this shit. "My fictional god is more important than my child". "No matter what I do, my fictional god will forgive me!"

    It's fucking disgusting, and you are too if you support religions.

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    "Do not kill" is a commandmant in Islam too idiot. Misoginy kills.

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    • misterowl@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

      The religion demands all who don't follow the rules be put to death. Especially if you're a woman.

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      That's as true as Catholicism requiring to rape kids. The fact 5 scumbags already upvoted you really tells you the average bigotted mentality of the worldist.

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      • F [email protected]

        Yeah exactly. Actually I would even go as far to say we should trial and lock up every religious people ever for this crime.

        You dumb idiot

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        lock up every religious people [sic] for this crime

        Religiosity isn’t a crime. There’s a shitload of evil in this world, and almost none of it is (or can ever be) “criminalized.”

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        • M [email protected]

          The idea of using your religion as an excuse to kill people is not exclusive to Islam. There are actually quite a few instances in the christian bible where people kill due to religion.

          If you actually want to get away from religious killing, as a society, we must denounce religion as a whole. Blaming one religion is just stirring the pot.

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          What is whataboutism, Alex?

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          • F [email protected]

            Back to Syria then

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            We should send you back to the ocean you disguisting pos

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            • Y [email protected]

              lock up every religious people [sic] for this crime

              Religiosity isn’t a crime. There’s a shitload of evil in this world, and almost none of it is (or can ever be) “criminalized.”

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              #104

              Yeah fuck you

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              • artisian@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                This is making a classic media literacy mistake.

                The argument being made is that we can disregard the source if the thing that the headline is about is a real phenomena, regardless of if the actual anecdote is true. I don't think you can ever disregard the source; we should always ask who told this story and why.

                Also, OP definitely made a choice providing this url instead of another. Sensationalist headline? Mistake on their part? Lack of English language alternative?

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                If three sources corroborate the same fact then all three sources are credible in that instance.

                Now that's basic fucking media literacy..

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                • S [email protected]

                  No. There may be reliable sources available instead. Racist media should not be referenced in any way except critically. They deserve no platform.

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                  Yeah sure. Doesn't take away the importance of the reported fact, no matter the source..

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                  • anonomouswolf@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                    A Syrian refugee who fled to the Netherlands has reportedly confessed to murdering his 18-year-old daughter and dumping her body in a canal before fleeing the country in an apparent admission note sent to a Dutch newspaper.

                    Father-of-nine Khaled al-Najjar, 52, wrote in an email sent to De Telegraaf that he had killed his 18-year-old daughter Ryan al-Najjar, urging the publication to report 'I am the one who killed'.

                    The confession did not specify exactly why he had decided to murder his daughter, with al-Najjar writing only that he was 'very angry with her', adding: 'The reason is between me and the judge. I will read that in court'.

                    But neighbours and friends suspect Ryan's death came as the result of an honour killing, with one claiming they had previously sheltered her when she had fled the family home in fear of retribution from her father.

                    Requesting anonymity to prevent any backlash, they told De Telegraaf that Ryan had a Dutch boyfriend, wanted to stop wearing a headscarf and had been beaten by her father who disagreed with her adoption of a Western lifestyle.

                    Source:

                    1. https://nltimes.nl/2025/06/30/brothers-still-deny-involvement-18-year-old-sisters-honor-killing

                    2. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13501735/Syrian-refugee-murders-Westernised-daughter-18-honour-killing-dumps-canal-started-dating-local-Dutch-boy-wanted-stop-wearing-headscarf.html

                    3. https://www.atheistrepublic.com/news/fatal-traditions-shocking-honor-killing-netherlands

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                    This is not about religion. Islam is being used to justify their actions. Simply put, these people are sick! 😡

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                    • F [email protected]

                      Ever heard of freedom of religion you dumb cunt?

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                      Does freedom of religion include killing your daughter because she was too western?

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                      • F [email protected]

                        We should send you back to the ocean you disguisting pos

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                        If i was willing to murder my child for growing up like other normal kids here: yes, definitely, you should.

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                        • F [email protected]

                          Lmao funny how fascist pos suddenly care about women's right when it comes to shitting on brown people

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                          It's not fascist to wonder why leftists platform this religion while bullshit like this happens.

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                          • F [email protected]

                            Yeah fuck you

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                            #111

                            Not all religious people are evil, just like not all ignorant people are evil. But all ignorance and all religion and prejudice and celebrity worship and cults and gambling and extended-cab pickup trucks are certainly evil.

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                            • F [email protected]

                              Lmao funny how fascist pos suddenly care about women's right when it comes to shitting on brown people

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                              Who exactly is the “fascist pos” here?

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                              • V [email protected]

                                It is fundamentalist religion in general that puts women at risk.

                                Yeah, I get it, fundamentalists are terrible.

                                But this one was a Muslim and leftists, for some reason, like to platform Islam while this bullshit happens.

                                Islam, and pretty much every other religion, is an absolute plague on humanity.

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                                Your use of the term “leftist” betrays your bias.

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                                • jackbydev@programming.devJ [email protected]

                                  But abortion? Can't do that, you're killing a child!

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                                  That child might conform! Only when they don't bow to the powers that want to use them is it ok to kill them!

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                                  • P [email protected]

                                    Going by this article...

                                    https://nltimes.nl/2025/06/30/brothers-still-deny-involvement-18-year-old-sisters-honor-killing

                                    ...I would speculate that by sending the letter, Khaled al-Najjar attempts to free his sons of complicity in the crime. Whether they are or aren't complicit, is for the court to determine. Getting the man back from Syria would be a priority for the court, but given the situation in Syria, this might be difficult to arrange.

                                    The court seems to consider the brothers either plausibly complicit or a flight risk and decided not to free them on bail.

                                    The brothers’ lawyers requested that they be released from pre-trial custody. They have been detained for almost 13 months. Both insist that they “had nothing to do” with their sister’s murder. But the court ruled that they’ll stay in custody until the next hearing in September.

                                    ...and...

                                    But the OM [prosecution] believes that the father enlisted his sons to pick Ryan up, drive her to a remote location, and throw her weighted body into the water. According to the OM, the three men killed Ryan because she behaved too Western and “shamed” her family.

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                                    According to the OM, the three men killed Ryan because she behaved too Western and “shamed” her family.

                                    Traveled to a Western country instead of any of the Muslim countries around Syria to apply for asylum and gets mad that the culture around them might affect them.

                                    Makes sense

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                                    • V [email protected]

                                      Islam is a plague.

                                      I dont understand why leftists try and platform this terrible religion.

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                                      Religion* is a plague.

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                                        It’s “prerogative”, not “pejorative”.

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                                        • doxxx@lemmy.caD [email protected]

                                          Your use of the term “leftist” betrays your bias.

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                                          Not sure why, its what I use to describe myself and my friends in a broad sense.

                                          Am I not allowed to criticize islam? Do I hand in my progressive card or something?

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