Vietnam setting bans on gasoline motorcycles next year, followed by cars
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So is burning fossil fuels during a climate apocalypse. Gotta make some tough choices.
This is a policy which will hit the poor first and hardest. That's contrary to all realistic and beneficial climate action. How about banning cruise ships docking at ports in the country?
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This is a policy which will hit the poor first and hardest. That's contrary to all realistic and beneficial climate action. How about banning cruise ships docking at ports in the country?
I don’t know enough about Vietnam to speak to the transportation options there but in most parts of the world there are good low-carbon alternatives now. E-bicycles in particular are an affordable transit revolution that should be affordable to anyone who can afford a motorbike.
People who burn fossil fuels are not the poorest of the poor. The real poor are the ones who will suffer and die if we don’t get off of fossil fuels immediately.
I would personally go a lot further than this narrow policy but given the current emergency I can’t really be critical of any move in the right direction.
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When I lived there 6-7 years ago many people didn’t even stop at red lights. It wasn’t uncommon to see someone wearing a cooking pot as a helmet. It will be a while before any policy is actually followed
Hmm if I was poor and couldn't get a helmet, yea I'd use a cooking pot.
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Charging the battery for a moped is not nearly as demanding as charging the battery for a car.
I'm not entirely sure, but I believe that Vietnam is one of those countries where most people get around on a moped, and also one of those countries that has already been shifting towards electrifying their moped fleet. If that modal share doesn't change they might not need major infrastructural investment in order to strengthen the grid.
Edit: Battery swapping stations are also quite common for mopeds in countries like Taiwan. Those can be trickle charged rather than fast-charged.
It really is incredible how much less power you need for lower weight. Ebikes and electric scooters should be the transportation.
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That seems a bit harsh
This is only in centers of some cities. Total ban is planned for 2045 which is 10 years later then in EU.
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This is a policy which will hit the poor first and hardest. That's contrary to all realistic and beneficial climate action. How about banning cruise ships docking at ports in the country?
I think you have no idea how polluting motorbikes are in the 3rd world. And if any are still 2 stroke, yikes. As with any electric vehicles, there is a up front cost but the lower maintenance, longevity, and electricity instead of gas is much cheaper. And we're talking scooters, the price Delta is a lot lower than for cars.
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This is only in centers of some cities. Total ban is planned for 2045 which is 10 years later then in EU.
Yeah I guess in really dense spots you can just park and walk.
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Amazing idea, but if the wiring in that second picture is anywhere near commonplace, you're going to want to put a bit more budget into power grid maintenance. That rats nest of cabling is bad enough from a low voltage IT perspective, I can only how terrifying that would be for HV engineers.
That rats nest is the default everywhere in SE asia.
The cables are well insulated, and it's usually only the last 50m or so run like that.
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When I lived there 6-7 years ago many people didn’t even stop at red lights. It wasn’t uncommon to see someone wearing a cooking pot as a helmet. It will be a while before any policy is actually followed
I dont think time is the critical factor, but will.
If they really want to roll this out then they will.
Even if there's no pressure on commuters, rental places and companies will do it, then at least the market and infrastructure for them is improving.
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This is a policy which will hit the poor first and hardest. That's contrary to all realistic and beneficial climate action. How about banning cruise ships docking at ports in the country?
The poor are the ones who have to breathe the largest amount of the most densely polluted air.
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When I lived there 6-7 years ago many people didn’t even stop at red lights. It wasn’t uncommon to see someone wearing a cooking pot as a helmet. It will be a while before any policy is actually followed
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When I lived there 6-7 years ago many people didn’t even stop at red lights. It wasn’t uncommon to see someone wearing a cooking pot as a helmet. It will be a while before any policy is actually followed
It wasn’t uncommon to see someone wearing a cooking pot as a helmet
So you're saying that people there are actually trying and making an effort to do the right thing instead of getting all bent out of shape that head protection makes them "less masculine"? I say the country has more hope than the US for lasting, effective change in policy and lifestyle.
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Amazing idea, but if the wiring in that second picture is anywhere near commonplace, you're going to want to put a bit more budget into power grid maintenance. That rats nest of cabling is bad enough from a low voltage IT perspective, I can only how terrifying that would be for HV engineers.
It's far less horrible than it looks, a lot of it is slack for repairs and re-routing. You see this across much of the world where they can't afford utility boxes under every post.
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That seems a bit harsh
I promise the vast majority of citizens will actually benefit from the lowered cost of powering motorbikes and scooters.
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It wasn’t uncommon to see someone wearing a cooking pot as a helmet
So you're saying that people there are actually trying and making an effort to do the right thing instead of getting all bent out of shape that head protection makes them "less masculine"? I say the country has more hope than the US for lasting, effective change in policy and lifestyle.
Didn’t take long for someone to make this about the US lol
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It wasn’t uncommon to see someone wearing a cooking pot as a helmet
So you're saying that people there are actually trying and making an effort to do the right thing instead of getting all bent out of shape that head protection makes them "less masculine"? I say the country has more hope than the US for lasting, effective change in policy and lifestyle.
Comparing Vietnam to the US is a pretty low bar. You're not wrong but it just seems like a pretty strange comparison
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It really is incredible how much less power you need for lower weight. Ebikes and electric scooters should be the transportation.
Neither an ebike nor an electric scooter would get me to work.
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Neither an ebike nor an electric scooter would get me to work.
Hey look it's the "it doesn't work in 1000% of cases" guy.
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Comparing Vietnam to the US is a pretty low bar. You're not wrong but it just seems like a pretty strange comparison
The internet has broadly become a really contentious shitty place where nobody can stand not being "right" about something.
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Hey look it's the "it doesn't work in 1000% of cases" guy.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]What? You didn't add 73,250 different disclaimers and qualifiers to your internet comment to make sure that your opinion includes all possible sets it applies to and none of the ones it doesn't? How problematic of you.
edit: to the person who had a problem with this, you are part of the problem.
