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  • fossilesque@mander.xyzF [email protected]
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    I mean surely it could at least be optimized somewhat...

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      I feel this! When I need to do something in my computer my first impulse is usually to think about writing the code. Doesn't matter how many free tools are already around. Why? Because software design and coding is fun! It's not cost-effective in terms of time and effort, but way more fun than reading a manual for an existing thing and getting good at that thing. Example: right now I'm looking for a self-hosted wiki to organize my upcoming D&D campaign. As I look through the docs for dokowiki and wikijs I'm already thinking, how hard can it be to write one? A mind is terrible thing!

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        I'll just steal the wheel and reinvent it later

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        Better make sure the wheel isn't under copyright tho!

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          It is MIT licensed, but it's not implemented in rust.

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          Clearily it must therefore be rewritten.

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            We'd rather re-create reality where we know everything rather than taking the time to learn how to use a system someone else wrote.

            IT and DevOPS does this too.

            I worked with a group once that re-invented XML so that non-technical people could create text-based rules instead of writing code. But it ended up with a somewhat rigid naming structure with control characters and delimiters. The non technical people hated it more the actual XML they had used prior.

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            I woulda tried them on JSON. As long as they use an editor that keeps track of nested brackets I think it's much more natural than XML.

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              I'll just steal the wheel and reinvent it later

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              Tech bro strat.

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                But it doesn't conform to every cars specifications! A new standard must be invented!

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                Relevant xkcd.

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                • fossilesque@mander.xyzF [email protected]
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                  #86

                  Spent months setting up my home server with Docker containers while learning Linux.
                  Everything worked perfectly fine.

                  Then I realised Ubuntu Server is just a Debian-flavored landfill. Switched to EndeavourOS.
                  Everything worked perfectly fine.

                  Then I made NixOS my daily driver and thought, "Hey, let’s ruin my weekend." Migrated the server.
                  Everything worked perfectly fine.

                  Found out I could run containers as systemd services. Replaced Docker out of sheer spite using compose2nix.
                  Everything worked perfectly fine.

                  Then I heard btrfs was the bee's knees. Reformatted my drives, migrated again, and spent a week learning why subvolumes are better than sex.
                  Everything worked perfectly fine.

                  Got a free MacBook. Slight hardware bump. Migrated again. Spent hours fighting T2 drivers while deepthroating Tim Apple's cock.
                  Everything worked perfectly fine.

                  Rewrote every systemd service as NixOS modules. Why? Something something George Mallory.
                  Everything still works perfectly fine.

                  Did I ever notice a difference from the frontend?
                  Nope.

                  Was this a good use of my time?
                  Fuck no.

                  Did it need to happen?
                  Does the pope compile from source in the woods?

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                    LOL. not far off

                    They started out with something close to YAML. As the project moved forward, they found out they needed to represent logic with interlinked sections. They needed section 3, point a to link back to section 1 point 3, sub point 2. So they toyed with some assembly-like operations. Then they needed some inheritance. They really just slowly re-implemented the common applications of xml one at a time, it just had less brackets and <> symbols when they were done.

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                    it just had less brackets and <> symbols when they were done.

                    Hence making the parser more inefficient than XML?

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                      The wheel has had a number of innovations over the years. The earliest wheels were flat disks of wood that were heavy and slow turning. The Romans invented spokes and metal rims which made them faster, more durable, and gave them more traction. Questions we need answered: What is this wheel in particular designed to do? Is there any way we could make it work more efficiently at its task? Do we value performance over reliability, or vice versa? Etc. Etc.

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                      • zozano@aussie.zoneZ [email protected]

                        Spent months setting up my home server with Docker containers while learning Linux.
                        Everything worked perfectly fine.

                        Then I realised Ubuntu Server is just a Debian-flavored landfill. Switched to EndeavourOS.
                        Everything worked perfectly fine.

                        Then I made NixOS my daily driver and thought, "Hey, let’s ruin my weekend." Migrated the server.
                        Everything worked perfectly fine.

                        Found out I could run containers as systemd services. Replaced Docker out of sheer spite using compose2nix.
                        Everything worked perfectly fine.

                        Then I heard btrfs was the bee's knees. Reformatted my drives, migrated again, and spent a week learning why subvolumes are better than sex.
                        Everything worked perfectly fine.

                        Got a free MacBook. Slight hardware bump. Migrated again. Spent hours fighting T2 drivers while deepthroating Tim Apple's cock.
                        Everything worked perfectly fine.

                        Rewrote every systemd service as NixOS modules. Why? Something something George Mallory.
                        Everything still works perfectly fine.

                        Did I ever notice a difference from the frontend?
                        Nope.

                        Was this a good use of my time?
                        Fuck no.

                        Did it need to happen?
                        Does the pope compile from source in the woods?

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                        I mean it sounds like you just enjoy spending your time doing that sort of thing. I'd say that was a good use of your time if you wanted to do it, no?

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                          The wheel has had a number of innovations over the years. The earliest wheels were flat disks of wood that were heavy and slow turning. The Romans invented spokes and metal rims which made them faster, more durable, and gave them more traction. Questions we need answered: What is this wheel in particular designed to do? Is there any way we could make it work more efficiently at its task? Do we value performance over reliability, or vice versa? Etc. Etc.

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                            I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as wheel, is in fact, GNU/Wheel, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus wheel.

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                            • umbraroze@slrpnk.netU [email protected]

                              I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as wheel, is in fact, GNU/Wheel, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus wheel.

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                              The Wheel weaves as The Wheel wills.

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                              • fossilesque@mander.xyzF [email protected]

                                The Wheel weaves as The Wheel wills.

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                                Use the -w flag and the wheel will weave as you will.

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                                  "I WOULDN'T BE REINVENTING IT IF THEY DIDN'T FORCE systemd AXLES ON EVERY WHEEL!!!"

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                                    it just had less brackets and <> symbols when they were done.

                                    Hence making the parser more inefficient than XML?

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                                    It wasn't without some advantage. The client hating it didn't bode well though

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                                      I woulda tried them on JSON. As long as they use an editor that keeps track of nested brackets I think it's much more natural than XML.

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                                      I switched to TOML for my stuff.

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                                        The wheel has had a number of innovations over the years. The earliest wheels were flat disks of wood that were heavy and slow turning. The Romans invented spokes and metal rims which made them faster, more durable, and gave them more traction. Questions we need answered: What is this wheel in particular designed to do? Is there any way we could make it work more efficiently at its task? Do we value performance over reliability, or vice versa? Etc. Etc.

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                                        What is this wheel in particular designed to do? Is there any way we could make it work more efficiently at its task? Do we value performance over reliability, or vice versa?

                                        It works fine. It's a perfectly good wheel.

                                        Hey where is Underwaterbob?

                                        He's trapped in that Jigsaw room.

                                        The door is unlocked though?

                                        Yeah, but there is a wheel in there and UWB won't leave until he figures out if there is a way to improve it.

                                        Has any one asked him to?

                                        No

                                        Will he get paid to improve it?

                                        No

                                        What does the wheel do?

                                        You roll it out of the way so you can exit the room.

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                                        • grrgyle@slrpnk.netG [email protected]

                                          I mean surely it could at least be optimized somewhat...

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                                          It probably could, and don't call me Shirley.

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