Perpetual stew vibes
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It's not about teflon, but the chemicals used to attach this (or any other) extremely non-sticky plastic to a pan.
Imagine the kind of chemistry needed to make a thing that a cooked egg slides off on it's own stick to a metal surface in high temperatures.
* This is mostly incorrect, I don't want to spread misinformation.Teflon is otherwise inert and shouldn't have health implications on it's own (that we know of).
Obviously I'll still avoid ingesting any more plastic myself, as much as I can help it. Not suggesting anyone chews on PTFE tubes.
No, it's about the Teflon too. Teflon becomes chemically unstable around 400-500F, temperatures well within the reach of a modern home oven or range, and releases polymer fumes that are damaging to your health.
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Eh, just turn up your stereo and open a window. You'll get used to the smoke.
Seriously, what's with posters these days! I used to smoke 20 pans a day in the 90s
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PSA be careful buying lye. It has other uses than soap making, including stripping of carcasses to the bone, and then turning the fat into soap. If you order enough you might get a visit from your friendly government agent.
Corrected as to what it does.
It doesn’t turn bone to soap, it turns fat to soap
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Clean it, don't clean it, oil it, salt it, water it, "season it", season it by not cleaning it so your french toast gets all that good hamburger flavor from the night before...
I've read so many different ways to treat cast iron that at this point I'm convinced that it's all just superstition.
I scrape the crud off while it's still hot and then rinse it with dish soap and water. Never had an issue.
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It's not about teflon, but the chemicals used to attach this (or any other) extremely non-sticky plastic to a pan.
Imagine the kind of chemistry needed to make a thing that a cooked egg slides off on it's own stick to a metal surface in high temperatures.
* This is mostly incorrect, I don't want to spread misinformation.Teflon is otherwise inert and shouldn't have health implications on it's own (that we know of).
Obviously I'll still avoid ingesting any more plastic myself, as much as I can help it. Not suggesting anyone chews on PTFE tubes.
Check out this amazing video all about Teflon. I know, nearly an hour long... Worth it!
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It doesn’t turn bone to soap, it turns fat to soap
You are correct. Edited my post. My wife use to make soap so I knew it was caustic and I think she could only order limited amounts at a time or something like that.
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I scrape the crud off while it's still hot and then rinse it with dish soap and water. Never had an issue.
NO. NO MORE INSTRUCTIONS.
I’m cleaning it with an industrial angle grinder, seasoning it with crushed up dandelions, then storing it under my pillow just like my couples therapist taught me!
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NO. NO MORE INSTRUCTIONS.
I’m cleaning it with an industrial angle grinder, seasoning it with crushed up dandelions, then storing it under my pillow just like my couples therapist taught me!
That's all fine but if you do this over long weekends then you don't deserve cast iron.
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Any pathogens would be cooked anyway.
The toxic stuff is what bacteria leave behind, and you can't cook that out.
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Clean it, don't clean it, oil it, salt it, water it, "season it", season it by not cleaning it so your french toast gets all that good hamburger flavor from the night before...
I've read so many different ways to treat cast iron that at this point I'm convinced that it's all just superstition.
Scrubbing under running hot water has worked fine for me. I occasionally use boiling water if there is grease that doesn't want to move.
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I've always just been taught to use boiling/hot water and scrub it, dry it immediately after, and then put some oil on it so it doesn't get dry. Never had any issues.
Thats basically what I've been doing all this time too.
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Clean it, don't clean it, oil it, salt it, water it, "season it", season it by not cleaning it so your french toast gets all that good hamburger flavor from the night before...
I've read so many different ways to treat cast iron that at this point I'm convinced that it's all just superstition.
I put a little water in it, turn the burner on, and scrape it with a spatula as the water boils. Rinse out and paper towel dry. Add a little oil if it needs it, heat again, and wipe off the excess.
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For those who don't know, you can wash cast iron with modern detergents, and as long as you dry it properly you won't have any problems.
It used to be that dish detergents contained lye that would strip the seasoning off of cast iron cookware.
Why is this answer always so far down in the thread, right below all the nonsense and superstition that perpetuate the "cast iron is really complicated to maintain!"?
Soap and water is all you need, be sure to thoroughly dry the surface. If you get rust spots, just polish them off with a cast-iron cleaning sponge or some steel wool. Re-oil as necessary. Do not put in the dishwasher.
That's it. Not sure why the message gets so muddled with other methods involving stripping and reseasoning and baking and such... It's not required.
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The microbes need to be alive to produce them when you finish using the pan it’s hundreds of degrees so the bacteria are dead
The microbes are dead but they leave behind the toxins which require greater heat to denature.
That's why there are warnings about reheating some foods over and over. There's minimal bacterial growth, then the bacteria is killed in heating sto safe temp. But the bacteria leave behind the toxins. Reheat and you get bacteria growth again before death increasing the number of toxins. Keep repeating and you have a dangerous level of toxins despite no living bacteria.
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NO. NO MORE INSTRUCTIONS.
I'm washing it with Himalayan salt, hanging it to dry in the sunshine, then storing it under my bed in a wicker box just like my great grandmother taught me!
That salt better be pink or you’ve been doing it wrong this entire time.
Source: My Great great grandmother.
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Most vintage cast iron pans were ground flat, they only stopped doing that as a cost saving measure later on.
My vintage flat cast iron pan from the 30's keeps its seasoning just as well as my modern one, and is a bit more non-stick compared to the modern ones.
What determines if a seasoning will flake off is mostly due to the type of oil used to create the seasoning. Flax seed oil will create a much harder seasoning, but it is the most prone to being chipped or flaking off.
Most other types of fat, like Crisco (don't cook with it!) or canola oil, will produce a perfectly good and resilient seasoning on smooth or bumpy cast iron.
Wait, why shouldn’t I cook with Cisco?
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The microbes are dead but they leave behind the toxins which require greater heat to denature.
That's why there are warnings about reheating some foods over and over. There's minimal bacterial growth, then the bacteria is killed in heating sto safe temp. But the bacteria leave behind the toxins. Reheat and you get bacteria growth again before death increasing the number of toxins. Keep repeating and you have a dangerous level of toxins despite no living bacteria.
That would be true if first you ignore the effect of heating the pan on depyrogenation (killing of the toxins) which happens at approximately 250C which while hotter than your food that’s filled with moisture will get is reasonable for a cast iron pan to get to during both preheating and drying
2nd you assume the toxins accumulate over time, which they wouldn’t because the microscopic amounts still in the pan will leave on the food and with a cursory wipe of a paper towel
The reason it’s a concern with food is because if your food gets to 170F it’s considered overcooked so it never fully sterilizes and doesn’t depyrogenate but it’s not unusual to get a cast iron pan to 500F which does both.
If you ever worked in a field that does sterilization you will learn the differences between cleaning, sterilizing, and depyrogenating
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I put a little water in it, turn the burner on, and scrape it with a spatula as the water boils. Rinse out and paper towel dry. Add a little oil if it needs it, heat again, and wipe off the excess.
I wash mine in holy water, then dust it with volcanic ash from the 1980 Mount St. Helens eruption, and wipe it down with a felted angora cloth, just like my mother taught me.
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Scrubbing under running hot water has worked fine for me. I occasionally use boiling water if there is grease that doesn't want to move.
I scrub mine with a Scrub Daddy in a nearby waterfall, then dry it by tying it to the roof of my car and driving around for a bit. Haven't had any issues yet!
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I wash mine in holy water, then dust it with volcanic ash from the 1980 Mount St. Helens eruption, and wipe it down with a felted angora cloth, just like my mother taught me.
I also have performative masturbation rituals
