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Do you comsume any tobacco products (e.g. "smoking") or alcoholic beverages? Why or why not?

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  • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

    I smoke cigarettes. Because they're fucking addictive and it's hard af to quit.

    I smoke weed because it stops me getting anxiety and also makes my thoughts slow down and become quieter so it's not like a crowded room full of people having different conversations talking over each other.

    I have drank alcohol, and very rarely still do, but I don't like being drunk. Just like the taste of a white russian or margarita once in a blue moon.

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    Did/does cannabis help with nicotine cravings? It helped a ton coming down off fent, but that's a different pathway in the brain.

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      Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

      I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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      Nope.

      At least not normally. I'll vape in certain settings, and do enjoy smoking socially. But that shit is so bad for you, is unattractive, and expensive, that there's really no reason to consume it on a regular basis. It's like dessert to me, in that I really don't need it all the time, I'm too focused on going the OTHER direction in life, so that when I DO consume stuff like this that's fun and feels good, it's in limited settings and quantity.

      That being said, I'm really really weird and not like most other people in a ton of ways. So, largely, to each their own, but this is just my way.

      I'm a millennial, for reference, my parents (mostly my dad) casually drank a bit when I was younger (like a six pack of beer on holidays, or a beer here or there maybe a 24 pack over a few months), but now that they're retired, neither smoke nor drink except for special occasions. Also neither of them are gamblers (gambling is super stupid and I see it as intellectually cowardly. You wanna take a risk? Go try to do something powerful in the world that helps people).

      I don't really entirely like the effects of nicotine, alcohol, or cannabis, either. So they're very social-coded for me. If I wanted to be out of breath, I'd go for a run. If I wanted to be loud and stupid, I'll just be loud and stupid. If I need to relax, I'll meditate. They're self destructive to me, and my life doesn't need more of that hahaha

      Like everything, there's a time and place for all of these. And my day-to-day life and long term health is not that time or place.

      I do want to emphasize though, that we ALL have our vices, and we don't entirely get to pick them. So I will not condemn anybody that has these other than pointing out why specifically I don't.

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      • D [email protected]

        Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

        I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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        no

        I hate the tobacco smell (stink?) and 'hard' alcohol makes me nauseated, even just a glass. I do sometimes drink small amount of wine in social settings, not enough to get drunk. beer disgusts me though.

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        • D [email protected]

          Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

          I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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          I can walk to 10 breweries in 15 mins from my house in Seattle. I love the taste of pretty much any alcohol. It’s a unique taste that’s an art in either beer or cocktails or liquor. I used to drink almost every day because of this. I’ve since stopped drinking most weekdays unless it’s a special occasion, like a beer release, friends over, etc. and I think it’s helping me. I’m not addicted, but it was a little bit different to quit because it was a way I’ve dealt with every day’s stress. My first drink was when I was 19 in Italy (am American) and enjoyed a few cocktails on my trip (not wine or beer at first).

          I’ve only smoked cigarettes a handful of times with friends in very special occasions. I did cigars a couple times a year. I used to do taobacco pipe once or twice a month for a few years because I liked the taste with a scotch whiskey, but never enough to get a nicotine buzz. I only smoke weed nowadays, probably twice a month, but mostly vape pens.

          My parents didn’t drink often growing up, but they smoked well before I was born. I’m a millennial so going to college it was kind of expected, and I grew to like it.

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          • D [email protected]

            Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

            I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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            Fellow older Gen Z here. Atleast in europe to not drink or smoke is quite unusual. But i am the same. I just dont see any appeal in it. For me smoking is throwing health and money out of the window. And i dislike the taste of alcohole plus what it does to a human

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            • D [email protected]

              Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

              I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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              29 here. Kinda consider myself between generations.

              I smoke tobacco, albeit very, very seldomly. About two packs a year, tops, plus a proper cigar roughly every quarter. Never vaped. Can't do weed, because my job is federally regulated and I get drug tested too often.

              I used to drink rather heavily, especially during the pandemic - I'd put away a bottle of rum or vodka over the course of nearly every weekend. I still drink sometimes, but nowhere near as much or as often. Mostly taste-testing homemade wine batches, every couple months. It's been about a year since the last time I got pandemic-levels of drunk.

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              • D [email protected]

                Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                Smoking has always been gross to me. It stinks from a mile away and the breath of smokers is horrendous. Doubly so for weed. I also think vaping sucks. Most vapers just seen to not care about anyone in their surroundings. If there's a vaper near me at a concert I find it hard to breathe at times, on top of not being able to see through their Thomas the tank engine sized puff of smoke.

                I don't mind drinking but I've never been a crazy drinker as I've not needed it to join in on the fun. I've not drank for the entirety of this year but that's due to my adhd meds and I've not felt the need to actively not take them just so i can drink one night.

                I'm a millennial.

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                • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                  I smoke cigarettes. Because they're fucking addictive and it's hard af to quit.

                  I smoke weed because it stops me getting anxiety and also makes my thoughts slow down and become quieter so it's not like a crowded room full of people having different conversations talking over each other.

                  I have drank alcohol, and very rarely still do, but I don't like being drunk. Just like the taste of a white russian or margarita once in a blue moon.

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                  On the point of why you take weed. Have you been checked out for adhd?

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                  • mrscottytay@sh.itjust.worksM [email protected]

                    On the point of why you take weed. Have you been checked out for adhd?

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                    Yes. I have ADHD. And BPD. And ASD.

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                    • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                      Yes. I have ADHD. And BPD. And ASD.

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                      Are you not traditionally medicated for them or is it that you find weed works better instead of or as well as?

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                      • D [email protected]

                        Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                        I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                        Gen Y here. Born and raised in a rural European community.

                        I used to drink (sometimes heavily) when partying when I was younger. From age 16 to 30.

                        Sometimes I smoked a cig while partying as a teen and smoking flavoured tobacco from a water pipe was pretty trendy during that time to, which I took part in at social gatherings, but never made it a habit.

                        In my twenties I also drank some beer or wine every now and then on my own.

                        But I don't do any of that anymore. Very rarely do I drink a bit of alcohol, but since it triggers my depression and I feel really shitty the next day, I've stopped doing it. Just not worth it.

                        Non-alcoholic beer is a godsend though. I really enjoy beer for its taste and this stuff lets me have a glimpse of that without the drawbacks.

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                          Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                          I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                          I used to. I have stopped. My life is much better without.

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                          • D [email protected]

                            Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                            I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                            I hate everything about tobacco. Drink? Only specialish occasions.

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                            • D [email protected]

                              Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                              I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                              I started smoking and drinking at 12 because I thought it would make me look cool and developed a pretty bad drinking habit in high school and college. After college it got worse and there were some severe consequences. Finally got sober at 30. I’d been trying to quit smoking for years but would always light up when I’d had a few beers and since that was pretty much all the time, I wasn’t able to quit smoking until I quit drinking.

                              I haven’t touched either in almost 27 years and I’m so much better off for it.

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                              • D [email protected]

                                Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                                I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                                i drink cigs and smoke beer

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                                • D [email protected]

                                  Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                                  I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                                  Tobacco: No. Hopefully never

                                  Alcohol: Only if it tastes good. No good taste = I don't want it.
                                  Example: I dislike beer. Sake on the other hand has a pleasant taste.

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                                  • mrscottytay@sh.itjust.worksM [email protected]

                                    Are you not traditionally medicated for them or is it that you find weed works better instead of or as well as?

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                                    I actually had a prescription for it before it was recreationally legal here.

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                                    • D [email protected]

                                      Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                                      I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                                      I like to get a little intoxicated and find the different headspaces the drugs provides to be very relaxing and fun. That said, I get a really good calming buzz from a cup of coffee and some particular candy (vespebol) these days.

                                      I used to drink a lot, mostly because it was fun and relaxing to start, then it became habitual.
                                      I drink way less now, I like the buzz and mindset I get from a few beers, but I no longer need the escape that drunkenness provides and I've grown to really dislike it.
                                      Stopped drinking for a little while, then eased back into it and experimented with it for a few years.
                                      I found that for me the cost of drinking increases exponentially per unit and the benefits flattens and become costs after a few units now.

                                      I only have tobacco when someone has rolled a joint with it. Had my first while cigarette at 29, I got a really good nicotine shock from it, which I loved, but my lungs hurt for days afterwards so I'm staying away from tobacco, never tried snus either even though it's pretty huge around here.

                                      Don't really smoke much weed either, but I'll have a puff if someone is offering. I like the buz and calmness it brings.

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                                      • D [email protected]

                                        Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                                        I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                                        No. Paying money to ingest poison is extremely unappealing

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                                        • D [email protected]

                                          Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                                          I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                                          Both. Tobacco (now vape liquid) was a product of extremely misplaced curiosity. If you're young and reading this, fuck your curiosity, fuck what your friends are doing - don't fucking do it. Buy a stress ball if you have that "Well [x moron] smokes when they are stressed, maybe I should try it" thought. Putting aside the health effects (which are reason enough), shit is basically a money hole for idiots and addicts. I really need to try quitting again (just with a lot of prep for the early stage when I want to kill myself and everyone around me).

                                          I like beer and spirits, but I find anything above 3 standard drinks is diminishing returns. I did the 'get dangerously drunk' thing in my teenaged years/very early adulthood. Very happy I grew out of that, shit was getting dark by the end. Have overindulged since and every time, woke up thinking "I should have stopped at 2".

                                          2 beers is a nice, very lucid buzz for me - body relaxation and a bit chattier. 3 is when my motor skills start to soften in a perceivable (though still light) way. Experience has taught me this is a good place to switch to water/non-alc beer/tonic water for the rest of the night (if 'partying', supplemented with some weed.)

                                          Now - a cup of coffee before heading out, 2-3 beers, and some weed? This is generally a good Friday or Saturday night.

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