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    Using a mascot from big tech to protest against invasive big tech is tad confusing..

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    Could be wrong, but that looks like a generative AI version of Clippy. It doesn't look like an actual paperclip and the text bubble is coming out of his eyes.

    So using big tech to mock the use of a big tech logo to fight big tech is like 2 layers of irony.

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      Could be wrong, but that looks like a generative AI version of Clippy. It doesn't look like an actual paperclip and the text bubble is coming out of his eyes.

      So using big tech to mock the use of a big tech logo to fight big tech is like 2 layers of irony.

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      Generated images don't use "AI". Also, this wasn't generated.

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      • R [email protected]

        That’s an odd stance bc at the time it was introduced clippy was almost universally reviled and seen as an example of microsoft taking something that was fine (office 95) and making it objectively worse (office 97 introduced product activation, the stupid paper clip assistant, an arguably dumb UI refresh, and the most hostile part: a new version of the proprietary doc format that wouldn’t render correctly in word 95, forcing people to upgrade)

        enshittification wasn’t a concept back then but microsoft certainly lived up to it time and time again

        If anything this comic doesn’t make sense because no shit, microsoft started selling your data the nanosecond it became viable to do so. They were always evil. Whereas google at one point literally had a motto of “don’t be evil” in their guidelines or whatever, which fooled a lot of people in the 90s. they famously had to remove because once data collection was becoming obvious it was kind of silly to keep that bit around I suppose

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        It definitely is strange. But that doesn’t change that it has submerged as this symbol (just look up some new videos about clippy on YouTube).
        Many people probably do that because of counter-culture; clippy is liked because it had been hated for a long time and many (most?) people don’t know why.

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        • korne127@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

          It definitely is strange. But that doesn’t change that it has submerged as this symbol (just look up some new videos about clippy on YouTube).
          Many people probably do that because of counter-culture; clippy is liked because it had been hated for a long time and many (most?) people don’t know why.

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          Link here. Clippy never tried to sell our data. He just wanted to help, even if he was bad at it.

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          • R [email protected]

            That’s an odd stance bc at the time it was introduced clippy was almost universally reviled and seen as an example of microsoft taking something that was fine (office 95) and making it objectively worse (office 97 introduced product activation, the stupid paper clip assistant, an arguably dumb UI refresh, and the most hostile part: a new version of the proprietary doc format that wouldn’t render correctly in word 95, forcing people to upgrade)

            enshittification wasn’t a concept back then but microsoft certainly lived up to it time and time again

            If anything this comic doesn’t make sense because no shit, microsoft started selling your data the nanosecond it became viable to do so. They were always evil. Whereas google at one point literally had a motto of “don’t be evil” in their guidelines or whatever, which fooled a lot of people in the 90s. they famously had to remove because once data collection was becoming obvious it was kind of silly to keep that bit around I suppose

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            Link here. Clippy never tried to sell our data. He just wanted to help, even if he was bad at it.

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              Generated images don't use "AI". Also, this wasn't generated.

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              No it was drawn by pmjv author of analog nowhere, who makes content exclusively for lemmy.

              Shame it wasn’t credited.

              Check out their other work at Unix surrealism

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                No it was drawn by pmjv author of analog nowhere, who makes content exclusively for lemmy.

                Shame it wasn’t credited.

                Check out their other work at Unix surrealism

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                Their site is linked in the main post.

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                • E [email protected]

                  Generated images don't use "AI". Also, this wasn't generated.

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                  I am wrong then 🙂

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                    https://analognowhere.com/_/oumuti/

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                    Thank you for sharing analognowhere content

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                    • W [email protected]

                      No it was drawn by pmjv author of analog nowhere, who makes content exclusively for lemmy.

                      Shame it wasn’t credited.

                      Check out their other work at Unix surrealism

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                      iirc prahou also posts on mastodon

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                        https://analognowhere.com/_/oumuti/

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                        I remember Microsoft in the late nineties.

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                        • K [email protected]

                          Using a mascot from big tech to protest against invasive big tech is tad confusing..

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                          I thought the whole "clippy just wanted to help" meme was sarcastic since clippy's nagging was just as intrusive as the current AI being forced into everything, but it seems it is not.

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                          • K [email protected]

                            Using a mascot from big tech to protest against invasive big tech is tad confusing..

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                            I also thought Louis's choice of Clippy was a bit odd, but the fact that there is a symbol people can rally around at all is more important than the symbol itself in many ways.

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                              I guess not many people remember that Microsoft was convicted of antitrust violations against Netscape (which effectively destroyed that command).

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                              • K [email protected]

                                Using a mascot from big tech to protest against invasive big tech is tad confusing..

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                                Clippy is a symbol of a decent company, pre-enshittification

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                                  Microsoft sees Clippy everywhere: Oh they must really like him, let's make him our new AI mascot!

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                                    I kinda miss the days when computers and the Internet were so slow that you would notice if something else than what you were running was happening.
                                    Data logger calling home on my 28k modem would have been noticed right away. Trying to screenshot my pc screen every time I type or click, no way I could miss that. Scanning my HDD would lock it down so much I would have been stupid not to notice.

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                                      Clippy is a symbol of a decent company, pre-enshittification

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                                      Lol. As if. MS has been predatory and nasty during all its existence. Even during the MS DOS days, it pulled some incredibly shady stuff against DR DOS, and it's only gotten worse since then.

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                                      • R [email protected]

                                        That’s an odd stance bc at the time it was introduced clippy was almost universally reviled and seen as an example of microsoft taking something that was fine (office 95) and making it objectively worse (office 97 introduced product activation, the stupid paper clip assistant, an arguably dumb UI refresh, and the most hostile part: a new version of the proprietary doc format that wouldn’t render correctly in word 95, forcing people to upgrade)

                                        enshittification wasn’t a concept back then but microsoft certainly lived up to it time and time again

                                        If anything this comic doesn’t make sense because no shit, microsoft started selling your data the nanosecond it became viable to do so. They were always evil. Whereas google at one point literally had a motto of “don’t be evil” in their guidelines or whatever, which fooled a lot of people in the 90s. they famously had to remove because once data collection was becoming obvious it was kind of silly to keep that bit around I suppose

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                                        Louis makes a lot of the points you're making in the video. He points to Clippy as an example of universal repulsion where we "didn't know how lucky we had it", versus the wolf dressed up in social media's clothing we have today.

                                        I agree with a lot of what you said, but it's still worth watching the video. His overall aim is an honourable one and the choice of Clippy is pretty smart in light of the aims.

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                                          I remember struggling with the idea that all companies care more about the bottom line than anything else. People are good and care about good things. How can companies who are made of people always cause problems? There must be at least one good company out there, right?

                                          It's only after I spent some time in the world that I figured out that money really messes with things. It pressures companies to do whatever they can get away with. It separates the people who run the companies from the bad outcomes that company creates.

                                          And at the end of the day everyone needs to make a choice. Live and participate in a system that causes problems, or die. I chose to live and I don't blame anyone else for choosing to live.

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