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Why do you think payment processors are restricting their policy to exclude pornographic content?

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  • inkstainthebat@pawb.socialI [email protected]

    They're probably not doing it just because, my guess is that it's to appeal to the fasci- I mean- conservative government heading the US right now. And yes, I am aware that they are probably going to restrict more stuff as time goes on if they're unimpeded. I'm just looking for a solid motive

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    Project 2025. They literally bragged about the shit they wanted to do while claiming they had nothing to do with it.

    It baffles me that people are surprised this is happening, but a large majority of the voting population either doesn't care or are ok with this.

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      Partly it's because of way more chargebacks.

      Woman finds a strange entry in the credit card bill, husband insist it must be a scam.

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      I doubt if charge backs even made a fraction of a difference in this. This is entirely about power, with the republicans enacting their christofaacist project 2025 agenda to try to turn the US into a religious hellhole based on their twisted read of the Bible (which, realistically, is nothing more than a cudgel welded by principle-less opportunists taking advantage of the stupid and religious).

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      • inkstainthebat@pawb.socialI [email protected]

        They're probably not doing it just because, my guess is that it's to appeal to the fasci- I mean- conservative government heading the US right now. And yes, I am aware that they are probably going to restrict more stuff as time goes on if they're unimpeded. I'm just looking for a solid motive

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        Control. Plan and simple.

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          Do they specifically mention how banning porn is a step towards attacking queer people?

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          just do a web search with "project 2025 porn" and marval at it... it is amazing

          here is a good write up example https://www.gratefulweb.com/articles/project-2025-war-porn-privacy-and-progress

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            I doubt if charge backs even made a fraction of a difference in this. This is entirely about power, with the republicans enacting their christofaacist project 2025 agenda to try to turn the US into a religious hellhole based on their twisted read of the Bible (which, realistically, is nothing more than a cudgel welded by principle-less opportunists taking advantage of the stupid and religious).

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            I'm confused about that explanation because the same is happening outside the US, too, and started before the current US presidency.

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              It's all in in black and white in Project 2025.

              Ban porn > Categorize LGBT as Porn > LGBT is crime > LGBT in prison

              Religious zealots and bigots were given the reigns. This is what we get.

              Regarding payment processing specifically, they are under direct pressure from religious lobbyists and are folding like a cheap suit.

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              A certain section of society watched The Handmaid's Tale (they wouldn't read it because books are bad) and thought: "yes please, let's have some of that thank you very much" this is the thin end of the wedge.

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                I'm confused about that explanation because the same is happening outside the US, too, and started before the current US presidency.

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                Well, project 2025 was released a few years ago, and is not directly related to the current presidential administration. And to add onto that, the fascist right across the world have been reading from the same playbook for a while, so it's perfectly understandable to assume that non-american fascists are using a similar playbook to gain control of their respective countries.

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                • inkstainthebat@pawb.socialI [email protected]

                  They're probably not doing it just because, my guess is that it's to appeal to the fasci- I mean- conservative government heading the US right now. And yes, I am aware that they are probably going to restrict more stuff as time goes on if they're unimpeded. I'm just looking for a solid motive

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                  Visa and Mastercard have been pushing against legal but morally questionable stuff for the last 15 or so years to my knowledge.

                  It will continue regardless of which administration is in power.

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                    Control. Plan and simple.

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                    Note how this is happening along the government push too...

                    They are colluding.

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                      They're being lobbied to do it by religious organizations who have identified them as a weak point in freedom of speech. See, for example, mortality in media, exodus cry

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                      Both those claim to be against sex trafficking, I wonder how many of their board members have flown to the Epstein island?

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                        Both those claim to be against sex trafficking, I wonder how many of their board members have flown to the Epstein island?

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                        I just assume every conservative politician is a pedophile. They protect and defend them, so they're already as low as they can go.

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                          Partly it's because of way more chargebacks.

                          Woman finds a strange entry in the credit card bill, husband insist it must be a scam.

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                          That's the dumbest incel shit I've ever heard you fucking muppet.

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                            It's all in in black and white in Project 2025.

                            Ban porn > Categorize LGBT as Porn > LGBT is crime > LGBT in prison

                            Religious zealots and bigots were given the reigns. This is what we get.

                            Regarding payment processing specifically, they are under direct pressure from religious lobbyists and are folding like a cheap suit.

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                            You're right except the zealots and bigots are the ones being propagandized to support the legislation. The reason for it has always been for expanded prison labor. That's where America's slavery thrives. Don't play into the culture war while corporations and the owning class take everything from us.

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                              You're right except the zealots and bigots are the ones being propagandized to support the legislation. The reason for it has always been for expanded prison labor. That's where America's slavery thrives. Don't play into the culture war while corporations and the owning class take everything from us.

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                              Nah, they want this legislation.

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                                That's the dumbest incel shit I've ever heard you fucking muppet.

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                                Who hurt you?

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                                • inkstainthebat@pawb.socialI [email protected]

                                  They're probably not doing it just because, my guess is that it's to appeal to the fasci- I mean- conservative government heading the US right now. And yes, I am aware that they are probably going to restrict more stuff as time goes on if they're unimpeded. I'm just looking for a solid motive

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                                  Soon porn and masturbation will be crimes.

                                  Punishable by life sentences to slavery.

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                                    Soon porn and masturbation will be crimes.

                                    Punishable by life sentences to slavery.

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                                    can't stop me.

                                    I'll be the guy whackin off in the chain-gang.

                                    1000001243

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                                    • inkstainthebat@pawb.socialI [email protected]

                                      They're probably not doing it just because, my guess is that it's to appeal to the fasci- I mean- conservative government heading the US right now. And yes, I am aware that they are probably going to restrict more stuff as time goes on if they're unimpeded. I'm just looking for a solid motive

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                                      Trying to see what they can get away with. Can I control other things too? I was allowd to dictate how people spend their money here, so why not there?

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                                        No not just fascism but oligarchy too

                                        Olism?
                                        Faciarchy?

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                                        Farciarchy

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                                        • inkstainthebat@pawb.socialI [email protected]

                                          They're probably not doing it just because, my guess is that it's to appeal to the fasci- I mean- conservative government heading the US right now. And yes, I am aware that they are probably going to restrict more stuff as time goes on if they're unimpeded. I'm just looking for a solid motive

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                                          This has been happening quietly for a long time. It exploded now because it crept into new segments like Steam. That is mostly driven by a few conservative groups applying pressure to credit card processors.

                                          You won't find porn sites with certain content; in particular, blood or scat play. Now, neither one is to my personal liking, but I don't think it should be blocked as long as everyone involved consents. You might find amateur videos of it, but never anything from a professional studio. That is quite simply because credit card processors forbid it.

                                          (My source is one of the interviews that Kink.com does before a scene, which they always leave in the edit they post to their pay site. I'd have to search a lot to find the specific one. Suffice it to say that one of the models mentioned "no scat" as a hard limit, and the director said that their payment processor wouldn't allow it, anyway.)

                                          It's also impossible to remake the old Taboo series as is. Faux-incest scenes go out of their way to mention they're all a step family (seriously, how many step children does Cory Chase have? This doesn't seem physically possible.) This is all credit card industry pressure, as well, and while I wish the genre wasn't as prevalent as it is, the setup dialog gets really silly and contorted because of this restriction.

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