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    At the risk of sounding boomer despite not being boomer, have others noted a decline in basic decency with deplaning? In the past maybe two years or so even I've never seen so many people from the back of the plane rush ahead into the aisle blocking people in front of them from getting out and disrupting the hell out of the standard row by row front to back organized way to get off a plane. Last. Flight I took when I got into the tunnel some lunatic behind me tried to trample me, stepped on the heel of my shoe and ripped my shoe off. Not even a "sorry"
    Modern air travel is the epitome of enshitification.

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    From my experience, rushing the front of a plane during deplaning is common in Asia. I noticed it the most in Thailand, China, and India, but I've admittedly only had a few travels there. I've asked a few Asian natives about this trend, and the general consensus so far seems to be that, especially for China and India, there is a sense of "everyone for themselves" due to the sheer population density in many areas. If you don't push forward, you won't make it onto a crowded train.

    I have seen much less of this in Europe and North America, except for the occasional eager individuals or small group. In those cases, I haven't noticed any perceivable pattern in ethnicity. If I had to pick out a trait that comes to mind, I most often notice it in younger men. It could be confirmation bias, though.

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      I’m the exact opposite. I get annoyed when everyone springs up at the same time, as if rushing into the aisle will get them off the plane faster. Last time I flew, I had an aisle seat. I stayed seated while everyone lined up in the aisle. Meanwhile, the asshole in the window seat sprang up, and looked at me expectantly.

      I had to be like “uhh bro the aisle is already full. Where do you expect me to go? Sit your happy ass back down and wait for the line to start moving.” Even worse, I knew his bag was behind us, so he’d have to push everyone in the aisle backwards in order to get to it. No, you can fucking sit there and wait your turn, like you were taught in kindergarten.

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      Its a tricky game to play.

      For you, if you know it will take you 3s to go from sitting comfortably to walking down the aisle, then fine - you can wait.

      Most people need time to get organised. They're also unable to focus on getting organised unless they're standing up because that is one step in getting organised. They have no ability to prioritise the steps which are presently actionable.

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      • thal3s@sh.itjust.worksT [email protected]

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        This is the same line of thinking as, "if everyone drove like me, there'd be no traffic," (a phrase used exclusively by terrible drivers).

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        • T [email protected]

          Thank you. I had to look it up:

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error

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          Oh nice. I've heard of a fundamental attribution error before but didnt realise it was this.

          You commonly see it written as "we judge ourselves by our inte twins but others by their actions".

          Using the examples in that wikipedia page, if we are late for work it doesn't matter because we intended to be on time. If others are late it indicates a lack of planning or dedication.

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          • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

            If it was 200 clones of me, we would have gotten off the plane before it even finishes taxiing to the gate. We woulda kicked the emergency doors off and inflated those big slides to ride down the moment the tires touch the ground.

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            If clones all have the same citizenship, can only one of them be arrested for the crime.

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            • I [email protected]

              Sounds great. They could just turn the lights on one column at at time as a signaling strategy. Of course it doesn't solve the God forsaken cursed chaos that is baggage in an overhead further back than one's seat. That is like a three body level type of conundrum.

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              If that happens, you just wait in your row until the plane is empty.

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              • I [email protected]

                At the risk of sounding boomer despite not being boomer, have others noted a decline in basic decency with deplaning? In the past maybe two years or so even I've never seen so many people from the back of the plane rush ahead into the aisle blocking people in front of them from getting out and disrupting the hell out of the standard row by row front to back organized way to get off a plane. Last. Flight I took when I got into the tunnel some lunatic behind me tried to trample me, stepped on the heel of my shoe and ripped my shoe off. Not even a "sorry"
                Modern air travel is the epitome of enshitification.

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                It shouldn't at all be a surprise, since Covid, reports of "air rage incidents" spiked about 1000% and then remained elevated ever since.

                People are no longer able to be in enclosed spaces with each other because everyone is paranoid of everyone else, mental problems don't get treatment, they get communities of supporters, and every American has a custom algorithm that feeds them specific, atomizing perspectives of a world we once all shared. Even basic decency is out the window because we are abandoning any sense of community with our fellow citizens.

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                • I [email protected]

                  At the risk of sounding boomer despite not being boomer, have others noted a decline in basic decency with deplaning? In the past maybe two years or so even I've never seen so many people from the back of the plane rush ahead into the aisle blocking people in front of them from getting out and disrupting the hell out of the standard row by row front to back organized way to get off a plane. Last. Flight I took when I got into the tunnel some lunatic behind me tried to trample me, stepped on the heel of my shoe and ripped my shoe off. Not even a "sorry"
                  Modern air travel is the epitome of enshitification.

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                  I just had this yesterday! Was literally standing up out of my aisle seat and some boomer lady literally pushed me aside to get off the plane. I'm hoping she had another plane to catch, but goddamn you were one row away, we're talking maybe 30 more seconds here.

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                  • B [email protected]

                    I'm guessing the work travel involved merchandise they couldn't put in a carryon, either due to size or other factors.

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                    of course. bottled water salesman.

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                    • pjwestin@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                      This is the same line of thinking as, "if everyone drove like me, there'd be no traffic," (a phrase used exclusively by terrible drivers).

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                      No. It turns out driving and grabbing a bag while walking are actually very different activities.

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                      • R [email protected]

                        So? Decelerate your life a bit.

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                        How about you accelerate yours a bit

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                        • I [email protected]

                          At the risk of sounding boomer despite not being boomer, have others noted a decline in basic decency with deplaning? In the past maybe two years or so even I've never seen so many people from the back of the plane rush ahead into the aisle blocking people in front of them from getting out and disrupting the hell out of the standard row by row front to back organized way to get off a plane. Last. Flight I took when I got into the tunnel some lunatic behind me tried to trample me, stepped on the heel of my shoe and ripped my shoe off. Not even a "sorry"
                          Modern air travel is the epitome of enshitification.

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                          I can’t remember a time in the last 30 years where things were different. People have always sucked.

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                          • thal3s@sh.itjust.worksT [email protected]

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                            The guys in front of and behind you are thinking the exactly same thing.

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                              of course. bottled water salesman.

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                              Or knives.

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                              • thal3s@sh.itjust.worksT [email protected]

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                                Everyone in the photo thinking the same thing.

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                                  Yes it's insane. I was on a flight recently, we got in 15 minutes early and the flight attendant came over the PA asking to let people with tight connections off first. I was bewildered, we're 15 minutes early, just deplane like normal. I didn't have a connection, but I do have things in my life I need to attend to.

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                                  just say you have a connection?

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                                  • tropicaldingdong@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                    You aren't in traffic. You are traffic.

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                                    Just stop flying altogether, we're in the middle of a worsening climate crisis. We can't afford ourselves to fly anymore.

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                                    • thal3s@sh.itjust.worksT [email protected]

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                                      That's why I fly business only. If I can't afford for business class I don't fly, simple as that.

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                                        Do not bring tiktok content here too. We had ENOUGH of tiktok.

                                        It's worse than drinking hydrochloric acid.

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                                        Funnily enough, TikTok and the like are probably a huge part of having not much patience, I believe.

                                        Consuming non-stop content that is only a few seconds long can't be good in the long run. (And yes I sound like an old man yelling at the cloud...)

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                                        • pjwestin@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                                          This is the same line of thinking as, "if everyone drove like me, there'd be no traffic," (a phrase used exclusively by terrible drivers).

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                                          If everyone drove like me there'd be no traffic. As I only pick up the car like once a month.

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