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  • tatterdemalion@programming.devT [email protected]

    Ah yes, collective decision making, so easy, especially with strangers.

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    I know, I know, it's a pipe dream. Doesn't stop me from fantisizing each time I'm on a plane.

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    • tatterdemalion@programming.devT [email protected]

      Ah yes, collective decision making, so easy, especially with strangers.

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      So many problems in this world would be solved if only we could just get everyone all together to do <insert whatever>.

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        But over all it's good if people hate flying since we are not supposed to fly anyway. Yay!

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        "I'm not even supposed to be here!"

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          Sounds great. They could just turn the lights on one column at at time as a signaling strategy. Of course it doesn't solve the God forsaken cursed chaos that is baggage in an overhead further back than one's seat. That is like a three body level type of conundrum.

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          I'll die on this hill: overhead compartments should have dividers and sections assigned to seats. This would solve a number of problems, including oversized bags (it must fit in the section assigned to you) and the problem you describe.

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            Just stop flying altogether, we're in the middle of a worsening climate crisis. We can't afford ourselves to fly anymore.

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            I'll probably catch shit for this, but I'm going to say it anyway: the normalization of casual air travel was a mistake. I think there is a time and place for it, but it isn't something that should be done lightly.

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            • thal3s@sh.itjust.worksT [email protected]

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              What's the hurry to stand up, especially if there's a bus that waits for everyone or if needs to wait the luggage

              Just enjoy seating down

              I get pissed when they turn off the entertainment system immediately after landing

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              • P [email protected]

                Just stop flying altogether, we're in the middle of a worsening climate crisis. We can't afford ourselves to fly anymore.

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                Indeed

                https://www.yesmagazine.org/issue/life-after-oil/2016/02/11/how-far-can-we-get-without-flying

                Hour for hour, there’s no better way to warm the planet than to fly in a plane.

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                  To all the people telling OP they're wrong, you don't fly enough. The issue isn't evenly distributed. It's not like cars in traffic or whatever.

                  Airlines put the expensive seats in the front. The people who can afford them are usually much older, either traveling retirees or very late career white collar workers who have significant status. They're the first ones holding up everyone because they take forever to find all the assorted shit (personal item, oversized roller bag, neck pillow, laptop, ipad, lost earbud, etc) they've stuck all over the place, which the gate agent/FAs wouldn't admonish them for because of their aforementioned status. But they're first class, so the peasants behind them can wait in the bread line.

                  After they get off (on watching you glare), depending on airline, it's the fraction of people who are old and not rich, or don't fly often and aren't used to all the ritual. They'll have placed their bag in an overhead that's 12 rows behind them and demand everyone stop and crowd surf it up or else they'll just sit there blocking the line.

                  After them come the young vacation families, you know, the ones who had the screaming baby for the last 6 hours. They couldn't be bothered to pay for seat selection to save money so one parent is with one kid three rows ahead but needs to coral the kids behind them because the other parent was playing on a Nintendo switch for the whole flight and didn't try to organize all the kids toys, now lost to entropy, and so the marital spat and bawling (louder now) children begin.

                  Then there's you. You fly a lot so you have nothing more than two pairs of underwear and a toothbrush, all safely hidden from the TSA in your prison wallet and ready to go without so much as a nanosecond of notice, along with your phone and airpods to combat the screaming child in front of you. You got 31B, way in the back, after trying to game united's seat assignment system by checking in only after all but the exit row seats were taken, but someone missed their flight and here you are.


                  Generally the legacy airlines will have the most old people, but the vast majority of people on them are very used to flying, because they know better than to book a budget airline. It'll be slow yet ordered.

                  The budget airlines like united and frontier will be the opposite, lots of young spry 20 somethings, but lots of vacation families that couldn't afford Delta... I won't sugar coat it, it's gonna be a shit storm. The FAs have been contractually required to keep everyone at the very edge of their sanity through the enforcement of a variety of draconian company policies (like turning on all the lights half way through a redeye to scream about some credit card offer), so things are primed for chaos. Lots of shoving and yelling. Everyone's reviewing the Wikipedia "list of crimes of passion" to see if this qualifies.

                  Then there's spirit. Half the people on the flight will be coming down off of something they got on the dark web by the time you arrive at the gate. You've already seen at least a liter of blood spilled from various fist fights. Everyone was already up and crushing each other in the aisle long before the captain even briefed the approach. The FAs have locked themselves in the lavs by now and the captain (an FFDO) has barricaded the flight deck with charts and duct tape and is aiming his questionably modded P320 at he door. Welcome to the new season of Hunger Games - Spam Can. You're on your own, good luck and good hunting.

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                  you should write a book

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                    Just stay seated. You're going to wait for the luggage anyway.

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                    exactly my point

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                    • thal3s@sh.itjust.worksT [email protected]

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                      Alright. *slaps thighs* Time to stand right in front of my seat for 10 minutes hunched over the seat before me, lest my co-passengers misinterpret my staying seated as an unwillingness to get out of here ASAP.

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                        Just stay seated. You're going to wait for the luggage anyway.

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                        I need to fucking stretch my legs.

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                        • W [email protected]

                          What's the hurry to stand up, especially if there's a bus that waits for everyone or if needs to wait the luggage

                          Just enjoy seating down

                          I get pissed when they turn off the entertainment system immediately after landing

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                          If the plane is late and someone has connections or someone has kids, I think they should get priority.

                          But it turns chaotic everytime because most people have no patience.

                          YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE PLANE FOR 4 HOURS WHAT IS 5 MINUTES??

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                          • B [email protected]

                            If you don't have checked baggage on a domestic flight then being in the back of the plane just means you're waiting longer to get on with your day

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                            I live in the UK - domestic flights haven't featured significantly in my life. As in my comment doesn't have them as context.

                            The only domestic flight I remember taking was flying from Edinburgh to Cardiff and it took almost as long as taking the train (whilst being significantly more hassle).

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                            • zewm@lemmy.worldZ [email protected]

                              Could be some folks might have to catch a second plane and the timing is really close. Unfamiliar airport layout sometimes puts your connecting flight on the opposite side of the airport and it departs in 10 mins. I would be in a hurry to get off and reach my connecting flight in time.

                              This is just one scenario. Each person is different. Some people have travel anxiety etc.

                              Pretty easy to understand once you open up to the idea that you don’t know each person’s day, schedule or disorder 🤷‍♂️

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                              I was speaking more generally, not about flights specifically, and about how common it is.

                              Adults throughout my life seem to constantly be rushing to everything. As a proper big boy adult now myself (I'm almost 40) I still don't get how it's so pervasive. My comment was more about how common it is, not about reasons people might be in a rush. I can think of plenty of reasons any given person might be in a rush on a given day but so many people seem to be in a perpetual mad dash. That bit boggles my mind.

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                                Just stay seated. You're going to wait for the luggage anyway.

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                                I've flown enough to not check in luggage. Not gonna wait for that bullshit. No one needs more than what can go in the overhead bin. Only ever pack for a week, if you're gone for longer than that, find somewhere to wash, anything more is a waste of space, time, and money.

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                                • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                  Found the problem, this guy right here.

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                                  Staying out of the way of all the people rushing is somehow the problem?

                                  Explain.

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                                    I've flown enough to not check in luggage. Not gonna wait for that bullshit. No one needs more than what can go in the overhead bin. Only ever pack for a week, if you're gone for longer than that, find somewhere to wash, anything more is a waste of space, time, and money.

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                                    But what if I shit myself three times?

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                                      But what if I shit myself three times?

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                                      Contact your doctor, or a doctor at the place you're visiting.

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                                      • P [email protected]

                                        To all the people telling OP they're wrong, you don't fly enough. The issue isn't evenly distributed. It's not like cars in traffic or whatever.

                                        Airlines put the expensive seats in the front. The people who can afford them are usually much older, either traveling retirees or very late career white collar workers who have significant status. They're the first ones holding up everyone because they take forever to find all the assorted shit (personal item, oversized roller bag, neck pillow, laptop, ipad, lost earbud, etc) they've stuck all over the place, which the gate agent/FAs wouldn't admonish them for because of their aforementioned status. But they're first class, so the peasants behind them can wait in the bread line.

                                        After they get off (on watching you glare), depending on airline, it's the fraction of people who are old and not rich, or don't fly often and aren't used to all the ritual. They'll have placed their bag in an overhead that's 12 rows behind them and demand everyone stop and crowd surf it up or else they'll just sit there blocking the line.

                                        After them come the young vacation families, you know, the ones who had the screaming baby for the last 6 hours. They couldn't be bothered to pay for seat selection to save money so one parent is with one kid three rows ahead but needs to coral the kids behind them because the other parent was playing on a Nintendo switch for the whole flight and didn't try to organize all the kids toys, now lost to entropy, and so the marital spat and bawling (louder now) children begin.

                                        Then there's you. You fly a lot so you have nothing more than two pairs of underwear and a toothbrush, all safely hidden from the TSA in your prison wallet and ready to go without so much as a nanosecond of notice, along with your phone and airpods to combat the screaming child in front of you. You got 31B, way in the back, after trying to game united's seat assignment system by checking in only after all but the exit row seats were taken, but someone missed their flight and here you are.


                                        Generally the legacy airlines will have the most old people, but the vast majority of people on them are very used to flying, because they know better than to book a budget airline. It'll be slow yet ordered.

                                        The budget airlines like united and frontier will be the opposite, lots of young spry 20 somethings, but lots of vacation families that couldn't afford Delta... I won't sugar coat it, it's gonna be a shit storm. The FAs have been contractually required to keep everyone at the very edge of their sanity through the enforcement of a variety of draconian company policies (like turning on all the lights half way through a redeye to scream about some credit card offer), so things are primed for chaos. Lots of shoving and yelling. Everyone's reviewing the Wikipedia "list of crimes of passion" to see if this qualifies.

                                        Then there's spirit. Half the people on the flight will be coming down off of something they got on the dark web by the time you arrive at the gate. You've already seen at least a liter of blood spilled from various fist fights. Everyone was already up and crushing each other in the aisle long before the captain even briefed the approach. The FAs have locked themselves in the lavs by now and the captain (an FFDO) has barricaded the flight deck with charts and duct tape and is aiming his questionably modded P320 at he door. Welcome to the new season of Hunger Games - Spam Can. You're on your own, good luck and good hunting.

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                                        One other thing is that the people should allow other people who are already ready to walk out pass them before standing and taking out their carry-on. Most times I've seen all passanger wait for each row taking out their carry-ons sequentially instead of 10 taking them out at the same time. If everyone would be me with a carry-on it'd take around 5-10m since I only take the aisle when I'm ready to leave and/or there is another person taking out their carry-on in front or behind me.

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                                        • F [email protected]

                                          I just assume that deplaning is not happening until people 2 rows ahead stand up to grab their carryons. Everything before that is part of the flight experience.

                                          Zero stress.

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                                          It's remarkable how many people in these comments detest people wanting to have a chill time when flying.

                                          We're not slowing the rest of you down - we're getting out of your way. There's so many moving parts that an extra five minutes are so far down the list of things that I'm just not fussed.

                                          Trains are a bit different - there rushing can make all the difference. The limiting factors there are usually how quickly one can get between platforms!

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