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  • K [email protected]

    Do those rentals still exist?

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    No because they dont really work.

    You wouldn't want randos in your house like that

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    • stinky@redlemmy.comS [email protected]

      ethically wrong or legally wrong?

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      I mean my statement is pretty broad, there might be some landlords somewhere who do things that are either ethically or legally wrong. But in general they aren't doing either.
      Landlords are people who invest their money and time in housing and just like any investment they want it to be profitable.
      If it's too profitable it's not their fault, it's that we have to build more houses, have better transportation and better public housing to ease off pressure on the private market, not kill all landlords.

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        The landlords aren't doing anything wrong, if the market price is too high you have to increase supply it's that easy.

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        They certainly aren't doing anything unexpected.

        But, the word "wrong" carries an implication of moral judgment, and most people here are gonna disagree with you on that one.

        That is one of the reasons conservatives are so gung-ho on rugged individualism and individual responsibility while being against regulation. In public they get to tell supporters that they are all strong smart boys who can make their own decisions, while also implying that "others" in disadvantaged groups are in their situations due to character flaws and subhuman status. In private they get to ruin the world and apparently prey on children pretty often because the people impose no rules on them.

        Large numbers of individuals are easy for them to manipulate. Written laws and regulations are much less so, even though not impervious.

        Edit to add:

        This whole "they are behaving as expected == they are not doing anything wrong" attitude from the right quickly morphs into "they are a business, not a charity" and other similar sayings.

        That flawed reasoning plus a few more leaps in logic then leads to seeing profitability as an indicator of morality.

        And even THAT infiltrates personal lives. Resting for mental & physical health instead of building a skill or starting a side hustle? Laziness! Wasted hours of your life!

        Spend some time and money on a hobby that brings joy to your life and gives you a reason to exercise? Wasteful! Selfish! Foolish! Just think of what that money could have done in the market h while you chose a better hobby that could scale into something profitable!!

        Whoa whoa hold the fuck up. What do you mean that you intentionally lose money on your hobbies!? What kind of god-fearing red-blooded american just tosses aside the Rules of Acquisition so carelessly?

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        • speculater@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

          Cute. Who protects the property? Mutual Aid sounds nice on paper. The truth of human nature is that the strong will take anything you work to build.

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          We do.
          Unlike people like you, anarchists are responsible people in society.

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            Did you ask to pay more for rent or a house? Didn't think so.
            Did your landlord/seller raise prices 'cos The Market™ allows them to be greedy bastards? I'd bet so.
            Maybe a picture will help: replace "refugees" with wichever group you want to blame for rising prices.

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            I was ready to pay more as my salary is much higher than an average salary from a local company (and I know, my gf has a local salary).

            Remove the higher salaries from a place and rents will drop as nobody can afford higher rents. They did during covid, when a lot of people left Barcelona.

            And let's be honest, I came from a good work situation to another good work situation, my move has nothing to do with being a refugee.

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            • sagan@piefed.socialS [email protected]

              Hello,

              Not sure if you're still in Barcelona, but there is [email protected]

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              Not anymore, recently left. Honestly tourism and it's many side effects was one of the motivating factors.

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                Not anymore, recently left. Honestly tourism and it's many side effects was one of the motivating factors.

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                I definitely get that. Are you still in Spain or have you moved abroad ?

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                • R [email protected]

                  >0 bedroom 1 bath

                  the fuck

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                  In Seattle we call these studio apartments, I learned reading this thread that it's not a normal thing. My friends that live in one can't cook without their bed absorbing the smell.

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                  • Z [email protected]

                    "There's a great place to go when you're broke: to work!"

                    • big time landlord and big time conservative asshole (but I repeat myself) Dave Ramsey.

                    Luckily all these rugged individual landlords already know exactly where their boot straps are! Right??

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                    Is he hiring? Is he willing to pay a reasonable living wage?

                    If not he should STFU.

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                    • blackmist@feddit.ukB [email protected]

                      People who can no longer afford their mortgages would disagree with you.

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                      Ban landlord culture and property prices drop.

                      Kinda sucks for those already with a mortgage. Defending rental culture because someone might lose out now only guarantees that an ever increasing majority lose out in the future.

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                        And this is why governemental regulation is the only way and why capitalism has its problems: Capitalists blaming the consumenr for the existing market. People will use the offer the capitalists create for them if it is convenient for them and they draw an advantage from it. Of course you can always blame the consumer, and protect the guy who out of pure compassion creates a market that destroys our world even faster. But hey, at least someone profitet from it in the meanwhile.

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                        Im blaming the consumer for creating the market, because thats how markets work. You all might not want to think of yourselves as cunts, and that youre just the victims. But thats just a cozy little lie you tell yourselves. That fact is, you dont all fall over yourselves to buy, and there wont be a lot of people buying up homes to put them on airbnb.

                        Like I said, the scalper argument all over again, with the same "Its not my fault" attitude judging by the downvotes. If you dont get all those idiots buying playstations are 3 and 4 times the prices from Scalpers, then you dont get any scalpers buying up all the stock to make that profit.

                        Are we all children? We need mommy and daddy hold our hands? We cant just stop contributing to our own problems by ourselves? Are you all really that weak and pathetic?

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                        • S [email protected]

                          What about induced demand?

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                          What about it?

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                            I'd agree with you a lot more if AirBnB wasn't a lot cheaper than any hotel or other travel accommodation. A town that relies on tourism might be different, but in the USA I save about $100 and get a more private place to stay.

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                            And in there lies the rub. You can have somewhere cheap to stay, but the cost of housing go up everywhere. Or, you pay the extra hundred, and housing is more affordable for everyone.

                            This is what I mean by the scalper argument. Everyone wants a playstation, and some will 3 and 4 times the price for it. So now no one gets one, because the scalper buy up all the stock. In this case, you want to save 100 bucks. The knock on effect of that is that is that it contributes to increased cost of housing, and millions of people not being able to afford one.

                            I wouldnt worry too much. Looking at me downvotes, no one wants to blame you anyway. They are happy to just blame airbnb, and demand government regulation. Its pretty pathetic really.

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                            • D [email protected]

                              Looks like someone didn't read the news.

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                              Can you link to the news you refer to? I also seem to haven't read it

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                              • R [email protected]

                                They banned airbnb in victoria bc last year and rent here has actually went down. From this one single change.

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                                Was there tourism in Victoria and what happened to it after the ban? I'm not clever enough to predict what exactly the consequences might be, but I was always interested in what could happen from banning all short-term rental (although maybe that's not the case?)

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                                  It really baffles me that it's legal to own a house

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                                  • B [email protected]

                                    What about it?

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                                    Is the question about what it is or how it would apply to the situation at hand?

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                                      Was there tourism in Victoria and what happened to it after the ban? I'm not clever enough to predict what exactly the consequences might be, but I was always interested in what could happen from banning all short-term rental (although maybe that's not the case?)

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                                      It's our biggest tourism season in history this summer but that's thanks to Trump haha

                                      Don't think it's had much effect because we've always had hotel capacity for the demand

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                                        It really baffles me that it's legal to own a house

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                                        You mean like as opposed to a government assigned home?

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                                        • P [email protected]

                                          I was misguided, but had virtuous ideals at the time. I'm not defending the evils in the world anymore. Unlike this person who is trying to justify being evil at this moment.

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                                          A lot of young people grow up believing there’s glory in war. But anyone who’s been through it sees how pointless it really is. Ruining soldiers, families, civilians, and even the land itself.

                                          You saw the truth and came back better for it, and that’s worth more than any so-called victory. In the end, all people are equal; born, live, and then gone; war doesn’t change that. The best we can do is share what we’ve learned, so those who come after us don’t fall for the same lies. The rich sending the poor to die for their personal gain only shows how empty and corrupt they are.

                                          I hope you've found your peace, P00ptart, and I hope your story helps sway people away from fighting wars.

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