Why do iphone users still see their phones as a status symbol
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Android users do this as well, they just normally have to squabble with Apple users rather than feel they can punch down on someone else. I don't have a smartphone. But unlike them my phone is cheap to replace if it sinks while kayaking.
I also don't like iOS or Android
okay but then you just need to carry a separate mobile computation device
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And those demographics are very susceptible to marketing and peer pressure. The chat bubble colors are designed to make you think of alternative phone users as outcasts. Used to be the same with photos and videos in MMS.
By your late 20s most people don't give a shit about being labeled outcast, but by then you're locked into their ecosystem.
This is definitely one reason for their design, and Apple is shit for that, but the primary reason and the one that many iphone haters miss or trivialize is that SMS/MMS are absolutely fucking trash. There has to be a distinction because if you’re using imessage and relying on all your messages being e2e encrypted and your photos/videos not being compressed to shit, it’s important to get a blatant visual indicator when that’s not actually the case.
I’m not trying to downplay apple’s bullshit social engineering about this, that really is fucked up, but this gets misconstrued all the time as irrational users being upset by green bubbles when to (many of) those users it’s actually a huge downgrade in security and functionality that they’re reacting to.
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This is definitely one reason for their design, and Apple is shit for that, but the primary reason and the one that many iphone haters miss or trivialize is that SMS/MMS are absolutely fucking trash. There has to be a distinction because if you’re using imessage and relying on all your messages being e2e encrypted and your photos/videos not being compressed to shit, it’s important to get a blatant visual indicator when that’s not actually the case.
I’m not trying to downplay apple’s bullshit social engineering about this, that really is fucked up, but this gets misconstrued all the time as irrational users being upset by green bubbles when to (many of) those users it’s actually a huge downgrade in security and functionality that they’re reacting to.
Behold: a blatant visual indicator
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What's the culture where people don't covet meaningless status symbols?
While there are numerous examples of such philosophies and cultures around the globe, I don't actually need to identify such a culture to demonstrate my point.
If one can remain human without engaging in this behavior, this behavior is not a characteristic of the human condition.
The question before you is whether the members of such a hypothetical culture are inhuman specifically because they do not engage in that covetous behavior.
The abhorrent behaviors being described are conditions of ideas held by certain members of the species. The species is not lessened by the rejection of such ideas. The "certain members" are lessened by their adherence to those ideas.
wrote last edited by [email protected]That's an interesting way of looking at it. Don't you think there's a human nature that's not strictly learned? It seems to me that history repeats way more than it should if we were that good at changing.
Like, obviously, there's variance at the individual level, but it seems like the population as a whole has striking similarities, regardless of where you travel or what era in history you're reading about.
While there are numerous examples of such philosophies and cultures around the globe
Dovetailing into that, a philosophy is not a culture. Philosophies at best sightly influence cultures, as actually practiced, and even that is overblown. Since this is Lemmy, I'll use the example of how well Western Christians follow teachings about not being greedy or whatever. Other cultures have similar facets.
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Especially teens and college students
Source: i'm a college student
Because they're teens
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Only poor people think a phone is a sign of wealth
As a person with a nice income, an iPhone is a device that‘ll get security updates for 5-6 years. Meaning that I can just put away 30 bucks a month and get the replacement immediately. On Android I had to get a new one every 2-3 years to get consistent security updates. I switched to an iPhone X when it came out, now I have a 14 Pro and don’t to plan to get a new one anytime soon.
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What the hell is that? Are beanie babies popular again?
They’re like cutesyfied Monchichi
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I have never ever ever encountered a single person who treated their iPhone as a status symbol.
That's nuts, you've never heard anyone tease about green chat bubbles? Never heard the joke "I don't talk to poor people"? Didn't see all that stuff blow up extra when the air pods came out?
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Cheapest iPhone is $600, cheapest android phone can go as low as $20 (like those walmart prepaid phones locked to a carrier).
When the average person think of android, instead of thinking about a flagship samsung phone, they think of the lowest budget phone.
So in their mind, if you have android, you're automatically categorized as "poor"/"cheap", regardless how much it actually costs.
I‘m the tech guy most people ask for help. If they want a new phone, my first question is for how long it should last and what their price range is - then I mostly suggest an iPhone. You get 5-6 years of support for $600, while Android you need to pay that every 1-2 years.
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I‘m the tech guy most people ask for help. If they want a new phone, my first question is for how long it should last and what their price range is - then I mostly suggest an iPhone. You get 5-6 years of support for $600, while Android you need to pay that every 1-2 years.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I‘m the tech guy most people ask for help. If they want a new phone, my first question is for how long it should last and what their price range is - then I mostly suggest an iPhone. You get 5-6 years of support for $600, while Android you need to pay that every 1-2 years.
Incorrect. A Samsung Galaxy A16 (USD $200) has 6 years of security updates.
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Especially teens and college students
Source: i'm a college student
wrote last edited by [email protected]Nobody will actually mind if you brag about how you bought a new phone. Also if you are not a rich person you having an expensive phone means you did something smart to "cheat the system."
As an example I had an old coworker when I used to work at a warehouse and he would combo things like service provider sales to buy an iphone.
He did sound smart when explaining the roundabout way he got the phone despite making same money as us. And I don't mind what other people chose to spend money on.
What I do mind is college students thinking macbooks are some "programmers' laptops."
I had to constantly hand-hold group members that think they can get away with not learning how to code and using AI for all the homeworks because they bought a mac and that makes them a good programmer anyway.
"But I thought the program should automatically wait for the threads on this line since it's POSIX."
Yes I love troubleshooting professor's makefile for an OS I don't have because you never learned your own laptop has a symlink from gcc to clang.
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As a person with a nice income, an iPhone is a device that‘ll get security updates for 5-6 years. Meaning that I can just put away 30 bucks a month and get the replacement immediately. On Android I had to get a new one every 2-3 years to get consistent security updates. I switched to an iPhone X when it came out, now I have a 14 Pro and don’t to plan to get a new one anytime soon.
What? Samsung guarantees 7 years of security updates for most phones. Google does the same.
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That's an interesting way of looking at it. Don't you think there's a human nature that's not strictly learned? It seems to me that history repeats way more than it should if we were that good at changing.
Like, obviously, there's variance at the individual level, but it seems like the population as a whole has striking similarities, regardless of where you travel or what era in history you're reading about.
While there are numerous examples of such philosophies and cultures around the globe
Dovetailing into that, a philosophy is not a culture. Philosophies at best sightly influence cultures, as actually practiced, and even that is overblown. Since this is Lemmy, I'll use the example of how well Western Christians follow teachings about not being greedy or whatever. Other cultures have similar facets.
I use "philosophy" to mean one's individual, personal relationship with reality: how they choose to interact with the world around them. I understand this is a somewhat atypical use. There is probably a better word for that concept. It eludes me at this time.
As I used the term, "Christian teachings" (etc.) would only qualify as a philosophy if the individual actually adheres to those tenets. If not, those teachings are just a work of fiction.
There certainly are "striking similarities" throughout the the populace and time. My point is that we don't need to accept, excuse, explain, or tolerate those widespread behaviors simply because they are widespread. As I see it, "Human nature" is a slightly more egalitarian synonym for "boys will be boys".
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As a person with a nice income, an iPhone is a device that‘ll get security updates for 5-6 years. Meaning that I can just put away 30 bucks a month and get the replacement immediately. On Android I had to get a new one every 2-3 years to get consistent security updates. I switched to an iPhone X when it came out, now I have a 14 Pro and don’t to plan to get a new one anytime soon.
I think this comment highlights just why people still think iPhones are a status symbol. They don't know any better or even anything of the market but they are sure confident about it.
IPhone will get 5-6 years of updates, but Android phones from Google, Samsung, and some others will get 7 6 years. Somehow that means the iPhone is better?
What next, they will claim that iPhone is private and Apple doesn't spy on everything they do to sell them ads? Something that if they read Apple's privacy policy quickly would find out is also wrong. Or then claim it is somehow more private that Android which can actually block most of the adware spying with apps like DuckDuckGo which are officially on the Play Store?
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I use "philosophy" to mean one's individual, personal relationship with reality: how they choose to interact with the world around them. I understand this is a somewhat atypical use. There is probably a better word for that concept. It eludes me at this time.
As I used the term, "Christian teachings" (etc.) would only qualify as a philosophy if the individual actually adheres to those tenets. If not, those teachings are just a work of fiction.
There certainly are "striking similarities" throughout the the populace and time. My point is that we don't need to accept, excuse, explain, or tolerate those widespread behaviors simply because they are widespread. As I see it, "Human nature" is a slightly more egalitarian synonym for "boys will be boys".
wrote last edited by [email protected]I'm not saying this is okay either, but it's the way the world is, isn't it? Humanity isn't doing a great job overall, at least in an absolute sense, and part of that is that adults absolutely do buy stupid status symbols to flex on each other.
I think explaining is a very worthy pursuit. As for tolerating, I'm not actually in charge, so I don't have a choice!
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Especially teens and college students
Source: i'm a college student
If there was another decent mobile phone, the same size as the SE, I would seriously consider it.
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Wait people really give a shit? Never seen or heard about that
Source: I’m also a college student
Nope - no one gives a shit what phone you have. Maybe I’m just old but I haven’t heard this from literally anyone or anywhere.
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Especially teens and college students
Source: i'm a college student
Some people need to justify their choice to overspend on something...
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I think this comment highlights just why people still think iPhones are a status symbol. They don't know any better or even anything of the market but they are sure confident about it.
IPhone will get 5-6 years of updates, but Android phones from Google, Samsung, and some others will get 7 6 years. Somehow that means the iPhone is better?
What next, they will claim that iPhone is private and Apple doesn't spy on everything they do to sell them ads? Something that if they read Apple's privacy policy quickly would find out is also wrong. Or then claim it is somehow more private that Android which can actually block most of the adware spying with apps like DuckDuckGo which are officially on the Play Store?
I recently got a Pixel 9, really hoping it will last the full 7 years
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I have never ever ever encountered a single person who treated their iPhone as a status symbol.
you definitely have, they probably just didn't mention it to you specifically
