Too soon?
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Should his (possibly) millions of his supporters also die? Should they preemptively start killing people they view as threats to them? You know, since some people are saying that they should die for their opinions... you see how this goes? It's not hard to see how a zero sum game ends without any winners. That's why you have to compromise by at least not killing each other.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]OK woefully stupid it is, then...
You know they're TRYING to do those things you said, right? Why do you think they keep mentioning trans people every chance they get along side bad news?
You realize "there are people out there saying others should die for their opinions" IS CHARLIE AND HIS KIND, right?
You are utterly and completely missing the entire point of the paradox of tolerance... Charlie Kirk and his ilk are ALREADY fomenting intolerance. They're ALREADY planting the seeds of violence. Me noticing it and saying, "yes, these vile actors deserve to be stopped, even if it comes to the worst option" IS NOT the same as them inventing boogiemen like trans/gay/etc people out of thin air.
They WANT people to get violent towards innocents, and are doing many things to try and make it happen. Jist look how they practically celebrated the Pulse nightclub shooting... That makes them a valid target. These ARE the despicable people you're so afraid of. Why can you not see it?
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Yes, we heard non-stop about how Biden was the “most whatever President ever.” It’s wild that y’all can spot obvious bullshit when it’s Trump allies claiming he’s the “most something ever,” but you eat it up for a Dem.
You’re just as gullible as the MAGA Trump supporters, so don’t go thinking yourself any better.
Oh look, deflection and avoiding to answer.
I figured, you're just another fascist troll pretending to be leftist. Either that or inadvertently carrying water for the far right.
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Eh... That's still a bad idea, especially in a society like the US, where guns are very normalized not for killing in many places. Requiring death as an entry fee would just be normalizing their use for killing. It wouldn't teach any sensible person something they don't already know except now killing is expected and normalized for gun owners...
Why desensitize a population to something that they should be sensitive about? Just like we should never require working at an abattoir in order to eat meat, we should never require killing to own a gun. It'll only backfire and make society more accepting of something you don't want.
Why desensitize a population to something that they should be sensitive about?
Cynically, I think this has already happened. That horse has bolted.
Which is your say, I do agree with your argument, I just think it's already too late to argue it.
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Oh look, deflection and avoiding to answer.
I figured, you're just another fascist troll pretending to be leftist. Either that or inadvertently carrying water for the far right.
Folks, we’ve got another Dem bot to tag.
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That seems more to me a declaration of what is deserved, not where it comes from and who enforces it. In fact, it specifically says it's up to the people to reclaim those rights if taken.
What is given by god cannot be taken, so if the rights can be taken and must be defended...
Well you know the bastard, he's all "it's yours help yourself to it". Or it's just the rhetorical justification for the principles these people established their government. They aren't saying that physically you can't stop people from having these freedoms, but that there is no moral justification to deny them and that it is a moral right to attain them by force if necessary.
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He's even promoting shooting people who try to take your rights away.
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Folks, we’ve got another Dem bot to tag.
Ok, tankie
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Dude says hateful shit for years and gets popped. He had enough time to repent.
You've crossed paths with people like me if you have ever left your home.
You are delusional.
Lucky for you I'm not like you then, with how you feel about murdering other people for their opinions.
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Lucky for you I'm not like you then, with how you feel about murdering other people for their opinions.
No, I'm not lucky that you're not like me. You seem incapable of seeing nuance.
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He's even promoting shooting people who try to take your rights away.
He
's evenwas promoting shooting people who try to take your rights away.Fixed that for ya.
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That seems more to me a declaration of what is deserved, not where it comes from and who enforces it. In fact, it specifically says it's up to the people to reclaim those rights if taken.
What is given by god cannot be taken, so if the rights can be taken and must be defended...
What is given by god cannot be taken
Like your virginity.
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It is possible to be empathetic about the manner of his death and the suffering it has caused while still being happy he is gone.
possible to be empathetic about the manner of his death and the suffering
What would that the serve?
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I feel bad that his children had to witness that, and even if they hadn’t been there (which they were) they’d undoubtedly have the video clip shoved in their faces eventually. That’s a hell of a way to lose a parent.
It's what he wanted. Quick, too.
It is fucked for those kids though. Not their fault.
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I feel bad that his children had to witness that, and even if they hadn't been there (which they were) they'd undoubtedly have the video clip shoved in their faces eventually. That's a hell of a way to lose a parent.
The fact that he died while in the middle of talking about trans mass shooters being a huge problem certainly makes it feel like cosmic karma at work. I struggle to give a shit about the man himself being shot dead. But I do worry about political violence... it's a very rare occasion when murdering someone sitting in a chair talking is a good idea. Not a single person in his right-wing sphere of repugnance is going to do any self-reflection and change their ways, they'll just become even more rabidly anti-everything left of Hitler. Shit like this doesn't go unanswered too often. Violence is a contagion with no cure except time, and the clock gets set back another decade every time someone retaliates. I'm sure we could chain all of these assassinations together into a causal sequence. But even if they're all independent events, the narrative-makers will be hard at work making it sound like a grand battle of the ages, so the result is the same either way.
Source: History, memory...
P.S. Any bets that the shooter was a MAGA nut? Seems to be the trend
I feel bad that piece of shit procreated.
cosmic karma at work
just-world fallacy & Hindu karma doesn't work that way
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LoL. “But he used the correct process for fascism!” You neoliberals are wild.
The Biden admin was absolutely illegally abusing immigrant detainees. You just don’t notice when it’s a Dem.
Ah, I see we have opted to move the goal post and add adhoms a classic strategy.
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have empathy for his children, who didn't ask to be born into this
and uh I guess that's about it
Does that mean you don't believe in empathy?
Sincerely believing in empathy as a guide doesn’t mean only when it’s convenient.
Empathy isn’t supposed to be convenient.For clarification, I'm not claiming he deserves empathy.
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No, I'm not lucky that you're not like me. You seem incapable of seeing nuance.
Do you or do you not think it's ok to kill people who express opinions that you strongly disagree with? Because i don't. And if you do, then you have to allow for the possibility that they will also kill you for your opinion. It's a zero sum game, and any society like that will inevitably fail.
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Do you or do you not think it's ok to kill people who express opinions that you strongly disagree with? Because i don't. And if you do, then you have to allow for the possibility that they will also kill you for your opinion. It's a zero sum game, and any society like that will inevitably fail.
Huh, yep. A concern troll.
Go be quiet while you clutch your pearls. L
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Ah, I see we have opted to move the goal post and add adhoms a classic strategy.
It’s not “moving the goal post.” We simply disagree. I oppose fascism in general. You only oppose it being extrajudicial.
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Yeah, news hasn't said he's dead yet, but the video is very gruesome. I don't see anyway he'd survive.
Very very not safe for work / lunch - click at your own risk. https://mastodon.social/@Ulfh3dnar/115181548207581457
Edit: He's dead. https://www-nbcnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/live-blog/rcna230437?amp_js_v=0.1&_gsa=1#webview=1
wrote on last edited by [email protected]of course trump needed a big distraction, and now media is only focused on it right now. im pretty sure melania is a reaper, waiting til you pass so she can have your will.
