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Flying cars crash into each other at Chinese air show

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    cross-posted from: https://lemy.lol/post/52477761

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    Anyone who does actual flying knows the enormous amount of knowledge and skill is required todo so.

    Now imagine a whole collection of "hurrr durrr my daddy has a lotmof money" idiots taking to the sky

    Enjoy the fun of the constant roaring of engines and propellers that randomly whizz by?

    IF this shit ever hits the roads (enormous if), then the only way to do this well is when you apply the rules of aviation and within no time there will be rules limiting where you can take off and land and where you can fly and basically it all makes it that the flying car will be just another airplane

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      Flying trams.

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      Isn't that just a plane. I would say Bus, but that would be a really large bus to fit what 747's do. It's like 450 people plus cargo.

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        Anyone who does actual flying knows the enormous amount of knowledge and skill is required todo so.

        Now imagine a whole collection of "hurrr durrr my daddy has a lotmof money" idiots taking to the sky

        Enjoy the fun of the constant roaring of engines and propellers that randomly whizz by?

        IF this shit ever hits the roads (enormous if), then the only way to do this well is when you apply the rules of aviation and within no time there will be rules limiting where you can take off and land and where you can fly and basically it all makes it that the flying car will be just another airplane

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        When you mean hits the road... Do you mean crash into it?

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          Isn't that just a plane. I would say Bus, but that would be a really large bus to fit what 747's do. It's like 450 people plus cargo.

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          Yes. An air bus perhaps.

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            cross-posted from: https://lemy.lol/post/52477761

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            I guess we're not ready for that yet, but our kids are going to love it.

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              cross-posted from: https://lemy.lol/post/52477761

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              Air travel is considered to be among the safest methods of travel.

              .....but thats only because historically we only let experts operate those vehicles. You thought it was bad to drink and drive? Wait until uncle Randy has 250 hours logged to get a liscense, and he drinks and flies!

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              • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

                In theory, sure.

                In practice, a large number of autonomous vehicles traveling at high speeds might not be able to keep clear of one another consistently.

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                They should try coding and algorithms.

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                  cross-posted from: https://lemy.lol/post/52477761

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                  avery brooks asking why there are no flying cars in the year 2000, from an IBM commercial

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                    cross-posted from: https://lemy.lol/post/52477761

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                    avery brooks asking why there are no flying cars in the year 2000, from an IBM commercial

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                      the flying "car" in question. Just seems like a quadcopter to me, but I guess that's why I'm not in marketing.

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                      Hexacopter, but yeah, basically a microlight helicopter.

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                      • fuglyduck@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                        Flying cars are, inherently, more dangerous than that.

                        Helicopters have loads of systems and design features that minimize the risks- and just to clarify, they're less likely to be involved in an incident than GA aircraft to begin with. they're absolute shit at gliding, so a loss of lift results in- at best- a controlled crash- where a plane has time. They're also more likely to be in the situation where they do not have the altitude or airspeed to glide even if they weren't dogshit at it, which combine to make them more dangerous to be in an incident with, but still not necessarily "unsafe".

                        Flying cars would be significantly worse than helicopters, as they have the same glide profile, presumably the same propensity for low-and-slow flight regimes; and probably an inability to autorotate as well (depends on the design. most of the ideas I've seen lately are some form of multirotor.)

                        Though that comment had nothing to do with their inherent lack of safety. It has everything to do with hybridizing land and air vehicles like that never actually works out well. They're going to be significantly more expensive than either specialized counterpart, less efficient, and less useful. This is why we've never seen them come off with commercial success before, and why we're likely to never see them work, ever. The mechanical nature of something that can both drive on a highway and fly is insanely complex.

                        And even with all that, they're also going to be significantly less safe than helicopters are today, probably spending far more time in the low-and-slow regime which makes incidents dramatically more unsafe, and given the usual argument of "reduces traffic" almost certainly going to be flown in areas with significant human presence (making them more likely to crash into someone.)

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                        There's no specific aircraft type that fits the description of a "flying car", there are fixed wing, gyrocopter, and likely traditional helicopter designs. While they're all considered experimental, there's nothing inherently unsafe about them.

                        Also, helicopters can autorotate, and land in some very tight places, so what you lose in glide distance, you gain in options of where to put the aircraft down.

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                          cross-posted from: https://lemy.lol/post/52477761

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                          Does anyone know how these flying cars are different from helicopters?

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                            Air travel is considered to be among the safest methods of travel.

                            .....but thats only because historically we only let experts operate those vehicles. You thought it was bad to drink and drive? Wait until uncle Randy has 250 hours logged to get a liscense, and he drinks and flies!

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                            I am not looking forward to random idiots falling from the sky onto my property.

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                              There's no specific aircraft type that fits the description of a "flying car", there are fixed wing, gyrocopter, and likely traditional helicopter designs. While they're all considered experimental, there's nothing inherently unsafe about them.

                              Also, helicopters can autorotate, and land in some very tight places, so what you lose in glide distance, you gain in options of where to put the aircraft down.

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                              Landings under autorotation (especially unplanned landings under autorotation) are still frequently considered “controlled crashes”, even if everyone walks away.

                              In any case the one common element to “flying car” is that it’s a hybrid land-air vehicles. The currently most common form are multi-rotors; because multirotors are cheap. (Which is also the reason you see them in quads and other drones.)

                              No matter the design, they all suffer from hybridization. Things that are good at flying are bad on roads, and things that are good on roads are bad at flying.

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                                Does anyone know how these flying cars are different from helicopters?

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                                If it's marketed to trained pilots, it's a "helicopter." If it's being marketed to untrained pilots, it's a "flying car."

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                                  Air travel is considered to be among the safest methods of travel.

                                  .....but thats only because historically we only let experts operate those vehicles. You thought it was bad to drink and drive? Wait until uncle Randy has 250 hours logged to get a liscense, and he drinks and flies!

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                                  You can become a private pilot with an airplane or helicopter rating in 40 hours. 250 is for commercial pilots.

                                  And this shit does happen.

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                                    They should try coding and algorithms.

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                                    That reminds me of something my flight instructor told me as a teenager. If you lose your engine at night, aim for a dark patch, because lights mean structures. Set up for an emergency landing as you usually would, and as you get down to short final altitude, turn your landing light on. If you don't like what you see, turn it back off.

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                                      As long as it doesn’t go boing on the ground

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                                        Does anyone know how these flying cars are different from helicopters?

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                                        Look like quadrocopter in the images.

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                                        • tommasz@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                          People have enough trouble driving on roads, which place at least some limits on what you can do with a vehicle. Give them a flying car with no limits on where they can go anywhere in the X, Y, and Z axes and all hell will break loose. This crash, with two experienced "drivers", is a perfect example, and they ostensibly knew what they were doing.

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                                          My bet is that personal flying vehicles will happen and gradually spread --- probably not as a mass replacement for ground-based vehicles --- but it'll be fully-autonomous vehicles. It won't be Average Joe becoming a pilot.

                                          EDIT: Well, okay, I mean, you can get personal flying vehicles today --- in the US, you don't need a license or anything to fly something like this:

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powered_parachute

                                          ...whereas you do to operate a car on public roads. Just not allowed to fly over built-up areas. But I'm talking about heavier vehicles.

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