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  • inkstainthebat@pawb.socialI [email protected]

    I've recently started reading the book by Dale Carnegie and so far, roughly a third into it, I've found it pretty good although not revolutionary.
    What are you folk's opinions on it?

    Addendum: also any advice for making genuine connections and interact with people for someone whose social skills are not the sharpest?

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    I think the true title of the book is “How to Make Shallow Friends and Manipulate People”

    Great advice for making acquaintances at work but definitely do not apply it to your personal life

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    • ivanafterall@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

      People using my name repeatedly like that creeps me out to no end.

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      i didn't know race horses could type lol

      at the bank I work at we're supposed to use a member's name twice during a transacyand no one does it because it's fucking creepy

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      • inkstainthebat@pawb.socialI [email protected]

        I've recently started reading the book by Dale Carnegie and so far, roughly a third into it, I've found it pretty good although not revolutionary.
        What are you folk's opinions on it?

        Addendum: also any advice for making genuine connections and interact with people for someone whose social skills are not the sharpest?

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        I'm bad at it.

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        • inkstainthebat@pawb.socialI [email protected]

          I've recently started reading the book by Dale Carnegie and so far, roughly a third into it, I've found it pretty good although not revolutionary.
          What are you folk's opinions on it?

          Addendum: also any advice for making genuine connections and interact with people for someone whose social skills are not the sharpest?

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          Don't think bꝏks like that work on me

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          • inkstainthebat@pawb.socialI [email protected]

            I've recently started reading the book by Dale Carnegie and so far, roughly a third into it, I've found it pretty good although not revolutionary.
            What are you folk's opinions on it?

            Addendum: also any advice for making genuine connections and interact with people for someone whose social skills are not the sharpest?

            agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.worksA This user is from outside of this forum
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            It's a decent starting place. It's really just a curated collection of basically useful advice: take an interest in the interests of others, ask friendly questions, etc. Like you said, nothing revolutionary, but it's a great baseline for someone who struggles in social situations.

            As to the addendum, it's like most other skills. Just get out there and get some hours trying, failing, trying better, failing better, etc until you start succeeding more than you fail.

            If you're in college, join some clubs and go to parties. If not, bars are still a decent place to get some practice in, but if that's not your thing try to find some moderately social hobbies. Clubs and hobbies are particularly great because you have an implicit topic you can make small talk about. Still, bars and parties are also great because the consequences for failure are particularly low.

            HtWFaIP plus college parties are how I developed my social skills, augmented with inherently social jobs. I used to be an anti-social weirdo, and now people look at me incredulously when I tell them I'm an introvert.

            So just get some practice. You'll be awkward at first; you'll say the wrong thing, you might offend people a bit, you'll have some awkward silences. But people will forget, and you'll get better over time. In fact, if you're like me, deliberately building this skill can eventually make you more socially capable than the average person.

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            • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.worksA [email protected]

              It's a decent starting place. It's really just a curated collection of basically useful advice: take an interest in the interests of others, ask friendly questions, etc. Like you said, nothing revolutionary, but it's a great baseline for someone who struggles in social situations.

              As to the addendum, it's like most other skills. Just get out there and get some hours trying, failing, trying better, failing better, etc until you start succeeding more than you fail.

              If you're in college, join some clubs and go to parties. If not, bars are still a decent place to get some practice in, but if that's not your thing try to find some moderately social hobbies. Clubs and hobbies are particularly great because you have an implicit topic you can make small talk about. Still, bars and parties are also great because the consequences for failure are particularly low.

              HtWFaIP plus college parties are how I developed my social skills, augmented with inherently social jobs. I used to be an anti-social weirdo, and now people look at me incredulously when I tell them I'm an introvert.

              So just get some practice. You'll be awkward at first; you'll say the wrong thing, you might offend people a bit, you'll have some awkward silences. But people will forget, and you'll get better over time. In fact, if you're like me, deliberately building this skill can eventually make you more socially capable than the average person.

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              I see, no getting around the fact I just gotta trial and error my way through it, is there. Thank you

              Also I looked it up but I couldn't find anything, what's HtWFalP?

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                I see, no getting around the fact I just gotta trial and error my way through it, is there. Thank you

                Also I looked it up but I couldn't find anything, what's HtWFalP?

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                HtWFaIP - How to Win Friends and Influence People

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                  HtWFaIP - How to Win Friends and Influence People

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                  You just made me realize I've been somehow misremembering the title of the book despite seeing it constantly. Thank you again

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                  • inkstainthebat@pawb.socialI [email protected]

                    I've recently started reading the book by Dale Carnegie and so far, roughly a third into it, I've found it pretty good although not revolutionary.
                    What are you folk's opinions on it?

                    Addendum: also any advice for making genuine connections and interact with people for someone whose social skills are not the sharpest?

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                    I found it valuable. Read it in a reading circle exercise as part of some leadership class, where everybody took a pick of a book and did a presentation.

                    Now, everyone else's books seemed to be about bunching up 'different' individuals in categories and drawing up strategies to get along (or ably lead) these. I said I'd present last and opened with 'We've heard a multitude of ways to classify different people. My book came in at a totally opposite angle, finding the things that are true for all of us and teaching how to work with that.' IMO a much better angle.

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                    • inkstainthebat@pawb.socialI [email protected]

                      I see, no getting around the fact I just gotta trial and error my way through it, is there. Thank you

                      Also I looked it up but I couldn't find anything, what's HtWFalP?

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                      Basically yeah, but you can prep like you're doing, to make the trial and error a little easier.

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                      • ivanafterall@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                        People using my name repeatedly like that creeps me out to no end.

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                        Well ivanafterall you've got a point there, haha!

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