Kingdom Come: Deliverance II Has Released on GOG!
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Hey, Henry's come to see us!
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Hey, Henry's come to see us!
I'm playing through the first one right now, in the early hours, and for anyone who's played this sequel, did they add any quality of life improvements? In theory, I like a lot of what the game's doing, but when it tells me I need to find a way out of a castle, and it doesn't let me jump over a short chain barrier, it can be frustrating. I talked to one NPC who I accidentally quickly buttoned through a dialogue with without clicking on the option that clearly would have given me a hint on what to do next, and without reloading a save, I couldn't get that dialogue option back. There was also another NPC that I found the first time, before reloading a save, who gave me similar advice for how to progress, but due to the schedule system and the lack of any sort of notation built in to the map, I couldn't find her again, because she wasn't in the same spot. Things like that are why Avowed was built to be "static", as much as it got criticism for it, despite most RPGs being built that way to avoid exactly this problem I had with KC:D. (I have since made my way out of the castle, after looking up a walkthrough and save scumming a chest that I had to lockpick, because the tutorial was very bad at teaching me how lockpicking actually worked.)
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I'm playing through the first one right now, in the early hours, and for anyone who's played this sequel, did they add any quality of life improvements? In theory, I like a lot of what the game's doing, but when it tells me I need to find a way out of a castle, and it doesn't let me jump over a short chain barrier, it can be frustrating. I talked to one NPC who I accidentally quickly buttoned through a dialogue with without clicking on the option that clearly would have given me a hint on what to do next, and without reloading a save, I couldn't get that dialogue option back. There was also another NPC that I found the first time, before reloading a save, who gave me similar advice for how to progress, but due to the schedule system and the lack of any sort of notation built in to the map, I couldn't find her again, because she wasn't in the same spot. Things like that are why Avowed was built to be "static", as much as it got criticism for it, despite most RPGs being built that way to avoid exactly this problem I had with KC:D. (I have since made my way out of the castle, after looking up a walkthrough and save scumming a chest that I had to lockpick, because the tutorial was very bad at teaching me how lockpicking actually worked.)
This game is not for you then. It's OK, you can play something else, like a Ubisoft open world game. They have a dynamic world but also markers for everything so you can button through dialogue. The story is also much simpler than KCD so you don't have to pay attention. Characters are also quite one dimensional, it's easy to follow, much like Avowed. Highly advise AC shadows or Mirage.
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This game is not for you then. It's OK, you can play something else, like a Ubisoft open world game. They have a dynamic world but also markers for everything so you can button through dialogue. The story is also much simpler than KCD so you don't have to pay attention. Characters are also quite one dimensional, it's easy to follow, much like Avowed. Highly advise AC shadows or Mirage.
Some people like Avowed, dude. Let it go.
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Some people like Avowed, dude. Let it go.
Huh?
Ubi open worlds are more like avowed, better, but with QoL, which is what you asked for. KCD1&2 are not for you.
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Huh?
Ubi open worlds are more like avowed, better, but with QoL, which is what you asked for. KCD1&2 are not for you.
Dunno why the downvotes.People generally downvote assholes.
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Huh?
Ubi open worlds are more like avowed, better, but with QoL, which is what you asked for. KCD1&2 are not for you.
Dunno why the downvotes.Because you used therms like "simpler" and "one dimensional" which makes your answer seem like you look down on these games and people you enjoy them.
Also your points don't answer his technical difficulties he had with the game.
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Because you used therms like "simpler" and "one dimensional" which makes your answer seem like you look down on these games and people you enjoy them.
Also your points don't answer his technical difficulties he had with the game.
He's not interested in answering them. I live rent free in his head from a previous thread.
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This game is not for you then. It's OK, you can play something else, like a Ubisoft open world game. They have a dynamic world but also markers for everything so you can button through dialogue. The story is also much simpler than KCD so you don't have to pay attention. Characters are also quite one dimensional, it's easy to follow, much like Avowed. Highly advise AC shadows or Mirage.
Do you think a new player needs to play KCD1 before playing 2? I've never played either and am ready to start a new game.
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This game is not for you then. It's OK, you can play something else, like a Ubisoft open world game. They have a dynamic world but also markers for everything so you can button through dialogue. The story is also much simpler than KCD so you don't have to pay attention. Characters are also quite one dimensional, it's easy to follow, much like Avowed. Highly advise AC shadows or Mirage.
Whoa woah woe. No need to be a condensing asshole
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This game is not for you then. It's OK, you can play something else, like a Ubisoft open world game. They have a dynamic world but also markers for everything so you can button through dialogue. The story is also much simpler than KCD so you don't have to pay attention. Characters are also quite one dimensional, it's easy to follow, much like Avowed. Highly advise AC shadows or Mirage.
I'm also playing through the first game at the moment, I'm about halfway through though with the main quest, and taking my time with side quests and activities at the moment.
I'm really enjoying my time with it.
However I completely agree with the person you're replying to, the game isn't hard or difficult at the beginning it's obnoxious, once you understand these systems, which you'll be lucky to do in-game, you can deal with it and the more you play the more accessible the game becomes, but in the beginning you have to be too efficient and adapt to a very unfamiliar experience.
So this game is for me, and it's probably for the OP too.
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People generally downvote assholes.
Usually assholes are the ones calling names to random strangers.
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Because you used therms like "simpler" and "one dimensional" which makes your answer seem like you look down on these games and people you enjoy them.
Also your points don't answer his technical difficulties he had with the game.
When someone asks for QoL to not having to pay attention to dialogue when playing an immersive RPG, clearly, they should be playing a different game, i.e. Assassin's Creed Shadows, that happens to be really good.
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Do you think a new player needs to play KCD1 before playing 2? I've never played either and am ready to start a new game.
Don't have to but highly advised to do so. It will contextualise significant parts of the background and character histories. The first one is also a masterpiece, so you should try it out and see if the game type is your cup of tea, with the benefit of a lower upfront investment. If you like it, when you're done with it, the second one may even be cheaper at the time and you get some more of that warhorse goodness.
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This game is not for you then. It's OK, you can play something else, like a Ubisoft open world game. They have a dynamic world but also markers for everything so you can button through dialogue. The story is also much simpler than KCD so you don't have to pay attention. Characters are also quite one dimensional, it's easy to follow, much like Avowed. Highly advise AC shadows or Mirage.
This type of comment is why people don't try new things.
The second game is incredibly difficult and frustrating. I've got about 600 hours in it so far. The learning curve is very steep and if you don't pay attention you might miss easy ways to do quests and you'll have to murder hobo or save scum. Sometimes I feel like the developers are straight up trolls who do shit intentionally hostile to the user.
That said the game is very rewarding and fun once it clicks. It's kind of like soulslikes in that regard. You just have to play it to get better at it. AND DON"T CLICK CANCEL THE DIALOG!!!
There is a place for every type of game and every type of gamer. If you are a condescending dick to people they aren't going to want to try the harder games and you won't be able to talk to them about how cool the harder games are.
For anyone who wants to actually talk about the game with others who like it come join us at /c/kingdomcomedeliverance.
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I'm also playing through the first game at the moment, I'm about halfway through though with the main quest, and taking my time with side quests and activities at the moment.
I'm really enjoying my time with it.
However I completely agree with the person you're replying to, the game isn't hard or difficult at the beginning it's obnoxious, once you understand these systems, which you'll be lucky to do in-game, you can deal with it and the more you play the more accessible the game becomes, but in the beginning you have to be too efficient and adapt to a very unfamiliar experience.
So this game is for me, and it's probably for the OP too.
Wholeheartedly disagree, these are the same arguments levied against the souls games and yet, it's that opaqueness and steep learning curve that created such a tight knit and engrossing community. Arguably, some of the best games ever made.
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Do you think a new player needs to play KCD1 before playing 2? I've never played either and am ready to start a new game.
I never played the first one. you get all the backstory in the second. I don't feel like I missed anything but eventually I'll go play the first. Maybe if they put it in the engine for 2 because the first looks like crap.
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This game is not for you then. It's OK, you can play something else, like a Ubisoft open world game. They have a dynamic world but also markers for everything so you can button through dialogue. The story is also much simpler than KCD so you don't have to pay attention. Characters are also quite one dimensional, it's easy to follow, much like Avowed. Highly advise AC shadows or Mirage.
In case you're interested (you're probably not), even soulslikes games usually put the tutorial messages in one place where you can come back to them to reread them
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This type of comment is why people don't try new things.
The second game is incredibly difficult and frustrating. I've got about 600 hours in it so far. The learning curve is very steep and if you don't pay attention you might miss easy ways to do quests and you'll have to murder hobo or save scum. Sometimes I feel like the developers are straight up trolls who do shit intentionally hostile to the user.
That said the game is very rewarding and fun once it clicks. It's kind of like soulslikes in that regard. You just have to play it to get better at it. AND DON"T CLICK CANCEL THE DIALOG!!!
There is a place for every type of game and every type of gamer. If you are a condescending dick to people they aren't going to want to try the harder games and you won't be able to talk to them about how cool the harder games are.
For anyone who wants to actually talk about the game with others who like it come join us at /c/kingdomcomedeliverance.
For the record, I didn't skip the dialogue; I accidentally chose one option too quickly and then was not presented with the option to choose the other one the next time I spoke to the same NPC. The kind of quality of life I'm looking for is the stuff that makes it clear to me, a person in the modern world, what Henry would know. Or at least to be able to jump over a shin-high chain without hitting a collision box that tells me I can't.
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For the record, I didn't skip the dialogue; I accidentally chose one option too quickly and then was not presented with the option to choose the other one the next time I spoke to the same NPC. The kind of quality of life I'm looking for is the stuff that makes it clear to me, a person in the modern world, what Henry would know. Or at least to be able to jump over a shin-high chain without hitting a collision box that tells me I can't.
Oh I know. That was more a warning for others coming along.
You're going to have to get used to frustration with henry's athleticism if you play the second. My man struggles to run over logs sometimes. Other time's he's an olympic hurdler.
