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‘Basically impossible to get them back’: Russia’s mass abduction of Ukrainian children is a war crime, say experts

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  • S [email protected]

    What do you mean? There are people attributed as saying it in the article

    zachariah@lemmy.worldZ This user is from outside of this forum
    zachariah@lemmy.worldZ This user is from outside of this forum
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    Okay, but they didn’t just say it. It’s also true.

    This isn’t a case of one side said this and the other side said that, but the headline makes it sound that way.

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    • B [email protected]

      As many as 35,000 Ukrainian children are still missing and thought to be held in Russia or Russian-occupied territories, according to an American team of experts, with families saying they are being forced to take desperate and risky measures to try to rescue them.

      As Russian forces began their invasion in February 2022, children were abducted from care homes, from the battlefield after the death of their parents, or under coercion directly from their families.

      Russia has rejected demands for the children to be returned, with an official accusing Ukraine of “staging a show on the topic of lost children” during ceasefire talks in Turkey this month.

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      #5

      So kidnapping and human trafficking, plus war crimes? What else could we expect from pedo Putin?

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      • zachariah@lemmy.worldZ [email protected]

        Okay, but they didn’t just say it. It’s also true.

        This isn’t a case of one side said this and the other side said that, but the headline makes it sound that way.

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        Oh okay, I understand now. Thanks

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          As many as 35,000 Ukrainian children are still missing and thought to be held in Russia or Russian-occupied territories, according to an American team of experts, with families saying they are being forced to take desperate and risky measures to try to rescue them.

          As Russian forces began their invasion in February 2022, children were abducted from care homes, from the battlefield after the death of their parents, or under coercion directly from their families.

          Russia has rejected demands for the children to be returned, with an official accusing Ukraine of “staging a show on the topic of lost children” during ceasefire talks in Turkey this month.

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          You don't need to be an expert to know that it's a war crime and it is a genocidal action

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          • S [email protected]

            Oh okay, I understand now. Thanks

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            I was being picky.

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            • B [email protected]

              As many as 35,000 Ukrainian children are still missing and thought to be held in Russia or Russian-occupied territories, according to an American team of experts, with families saying they are being forced to take desperate and risky measures to try to rescue them.

              As Russian forces began their invasion in February 2022, children were abducted from care homes, from the battlefield after the death of their parents, or under coercion directly from their families.

              Russia has rejected demands for the children to be returned, with an official accusing Ukraine of “staging a show on the topic of lost children” during ceasefire talks in Turkey this month.

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              Someone took my child, I don’t know what I’d do. I’d go insane.

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                As many as 35,000 Ukrainian children are still missing and thought to be held in Russia or Russian-occupied territories, according to an American team of experts, with families saying they are being forced to take desperate and risky measures to try to rescue them.

                As Russian forces began their invasion in February 2022, children were abducted from care homes, from the battlefield after the death of their parents, or under coercion directly from their families.

                Russia has rejected demands for the children to be returned, with an official accusing Ukraine of “staging a show on the topic of lost children” during ceasefire talks in Turkey this month.

                venusaur@lemmy.worldV This user is from outside of this forum
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                Humans have failed time and time again. Can’t wait til robots rule the world.

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                • venusaur@lemmy.worldV [email protected]

                  Humans have failed time and time again. Can’t wait til robots rule the world.

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                  #11

                  Well good news, it’s gonna be the future soon.

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                  • T [email protected]

                    Well good news, it’s gonna be the future soon.

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                    When is soon? This song is from 2008.

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                    • B [email protected]

                      As many as 35,000 Ukrainian children are still missing and thought to be held in Russia or Russian-occupied territories, according to an American team of experts, with families saying they are being forced to take desperate and risky measures to try to rescue them.

                      As Russian forces began their invasion in February 2022, children were abducted from care homes, from the battlefield after the death of their parents, or under coercion directly from their families.

                      Russia has rejected demands for the children to be returned, with an official accusing Ukraine of “staging a show on the topic of lost children” during ceasefire talks in Turkey this month.

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                      fucking propaganda

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                      • R [email protected]

                        fucking propaganda

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                        Look, you can fck whatever you want, but you don't need to tell us, ok?

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                        • R [email protected]

                          fucking propaganda

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                          What part of this is propaganda? Russia is pretty open about their plans of kidnapping children

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                          • B [email protected]

                            As many as 35,000 Ukrainian children are still missing and thought to be held in Russia or Russian-occupied territories, according to an American team of experts, with families saying they are being forced to take desperate and risky measures to try to rescue them.

                            As Russian forces began their invasion in February 2022, children were abducted from care homes, from the battlefield after the death of their parents, or under coercion directly from their families.

                            Russia has rejected demands for the children to be returned, with an official accusing Ukraine of “staging a show on the topic of lost children” during ceasefire talks in Turkey this month.

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                            Still better than Israel that kills palestinian children, not abducting them.

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                            • barberserk@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                              Still better than Israel that kills palestinian children, not abducting them.

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                              #17

                              What the fuck is wrong with you

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                                As many as 35,000 Ukrainian children are still missing and thought to be held in Russia or Russian-occupied territories, according to an American team of experts, with families saying they are being forced to take desperate and risky measures to try to rescue them.

                                As Russian forces began their invasion in February 2022, children were abducted from care homes, from the battlefield after the death of their parents, or under coercion directly from their families.

                                Russia has rejected demands for the children to be returned, with an official accusing Ukraine of “staging a show on the topic of lost children” during ceasefire talks in Turkey this month.

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                                Yet another thing to throw on the giant pile of shit nobody is going to do anything about ever.

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                                • barberserk@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                                  Still better than Israel that kills palestinian children, not abducting them.

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                                  Multiple atrocities can be bad simultaneously.

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                                  • B [email protected]

                                    As many as 35,000 Ukrainian children are still missing and thought to be held in Russia or Russian-occupied territories, according to an American team of experts, with families saying they are being forced to take desperate and risky measures to try to rescue them.

                                    As Russian forces began their invasion in February 2022, children were abducted from care homes, from the battlefield after the death of their parents, or under coercion directly from their families.

                                    Russia has rejected demands for the children to be returned, with an official accusing Ukraine of “staging a show on the topic of lost children” during ceasefire talks in Turkey this month.

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                                    This is probably the most despicable part of the war I have seen.

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                                      As many as 35,000 Ukrainian children are still missing and thought to be held in Russia or Russian-occupied territories, according to an American team of experts, with families saying they are being forced to take desperate and risky measures to try to rescue them.

                                      As Russian forces began their invasion in February 2022, children were abducted from care homes, from the battlefield after the death of their parents, or under coercion directly from their families.

                                      Russia has rejected demands for the children to be returned, with an official accusing Ukraine of “staging a show on the topic of lost children” during ceasefire talks in Turkey this month.

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                                      Fucking ghouls

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                                      • barberserk@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                                        Still better than Israel that kills palestinian children, not abducting them.

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                                        Under the UN Genocide definition, both are the same:

                                        https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition

                                        "Article II

                                        In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

                                        1. Killing members of the group;

                                        2. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

                                        3. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

                                        4. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

                                        5. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."

                                        It only takes ONE to be called a genocide. Israel has run the table, 5 for 5.

                                        Russia? 4 for 5 in Ukraine. I can't think of instances of bullet point #4.

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                                        • F [email protected]

                                          Someone took my child, I don’t know what I’d do. I’d go insane.

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