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You Can Post Your Way Out of Fascism if You Own the Means of Posting

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  • breakfastmtn@lemmy.caB [email protected]

    I’ve been mulling over Janus Rose’s recent 404 Media article, “You Can’t Post Your Way Out of Fascism.”. In many ways, she’s not wrong. But once again people are ignoring an entirely other way of doing social media that can, in fact, fight fascism.

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    What is to be done? Well, Rose argues that there is no antidote to Trumpian poison to be found in merely taking to social media and posting about his (or Elon Musk’s, or Pete Hesgeth’s, or any other Trumpist’s) bizarre or cruel statements. “If there’s one thing I’d hoped people had learned going into the next four years of Donald Trump as president,” she writes, “it’s that spending lots of time online posting about what people in power are saying and doing is not going to accomplish anything. If anything, it’s exactly what they want.”

    . . .

    Can folks doomscroll on the fediverse? Yes. Can folks post on the fediverse? Yes. Might they post about the latest outrage of Trump? Yes, definitely.

    Does that mean they are failing to fight incipient fascism? No.

    In fact, I argue that the act of running, moderating, and participating in federated social media is precisely the sort of organizing that Rose calls for. It’s just taking place in a media environment, rather than, say, in an NGO’s offices in a city.

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    I think the fediverse might provide a supporting role in information sharing but it can’t really replace in person organizations.

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      Yeah but no one wants to write about the real solution. # See inglorious basterds for instructions.

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      The corpo media doesn't want you writing about real solutions, it's easier to get away with here! And i doubt the alphabet agencies will care as much as they used to now that they're being directly attacked.

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      • breakfastmtn@lemmy.caB [email protected]

        Both of those people are SO FUCKING THIRSTY for constant approval.

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        Musk wants to be acknowledged as superior by everyone, Trump only cares about a few fashie friends/idols/key holders of his.

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          The corpo media doesn't want you writing about real solutions, it's easier to get away with here! And i doubt the alphabet agencies will care as much as they used to now that they're being directly attacked.

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          • libertylizard@slrpnk.netL [email protected]

            I think the fediverse might provide a supporting role in information sharing but it can’t really replace in person organizations.

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            Yeah, especially because you're all a bunch of feds out to learn the secret plans of my radical leftist militia

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              fax the FBI their plans

              Opsec is not the fediverse's strenth, no. Anything you post here is going right to the FBI, courtesy of Palantir and Peter Thiel.

              Anything you post online ANYWHERE is likely to end up there: if it's not e2e encrypted, then you just told the FBI, and even if it is, you probably shouldn't trust that it's actually secure unless there's public audits showing that it is, and you're using a reproducible build from verified source.

              ...also, unrelated rant: stop taking pictures of people at protests and posting it online. Why is everyone doing state security's job for them?

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              Pictures prove that protests were big and non-violent

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              • breakfastmtn@lemmy.caB [email protected]

                I’ve been mulling over Janus Rose’s recent 404 Media article, “You Can’t Post Your Way Out of Fascism.”. In many ways, she’s not wrong. But once again people are ignoring an entirely other way of doing social media that can, in fact, fight fascism.

                . . .

                What is to be done? Well, Rose argues that there is no antidote to Trumpian poison to be found in merely taking to social media and posting about his (or Elon Musk’s, or Pete Hesgeth’s, or any other Trumpist’s) bizarre or cruel statements. “If there’s one thing I’d hoped people had learned going into the next four years of Donald Trump as president,” she writes, “it’s that spending lots of time online posting about what people in power are saying and doing is not going to accomplish anything. If anything, it’s exactly what they want.”

                . . .

                Can folks doomscroll on the fediverse? Yes. Can folks post on the fediverse? Yes. Might they post about the latest outrage of Trump? Yes, definitely.

                Does that mean they are failing to fight incipient fascism? No.

                In fact, I argue that the act of running, moderating, and participating in federated social media is precisely the sort of organizing that Rose calls for. It’s just taking place in a media environment, rather than, say, in an NGO’s offices in a city.

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                Oh get off their high horse. I know of no instance that is like Ecosia where your activity gets to, dunno, plant a tree or something. If you say online spaces somehow physically fight fascism, show me how many homeless people is your instance physically sheltering or helping immigrate to a better country, and we'll talk.

                Like, I love this kind of web space as much as the next person; but I don't fancy myself in the emperor's clothes.

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                  Pictures prove that protests were big and non-violent

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                  and non-violent

                  And that would be good... why?

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                    and non-violent

                    And that would be good... why?

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                    To attract more people to the follow ups

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                    • breakfastmtn@lemmy.caB [email protected]

                      I’ve been mulling over Janus Rose’s recent 404 Media article, “You Can’t Post Your Way Out of Fascism.”. In many ways, she’s not wrong. But once again people are ignoring an entirely other way of doing social media that can, in fact, fight fascism.

                      . . .

                      What is to be done? Well, Rose argues that there is no antidote to Trumpian poison to be found in merely taking to social media and posting about his (or Elon Musk’s, or Pete Hesgeth’s, or any other Trumpist’s) bizarre or cruel statements. “If there’s one thing I’d hoped people had learned going into the next four years of Donald Trump as president,” she writes, “it’s that spending lots of time online posting about what people in power are saying and doing is not going to accomplish anything. If anything, it’s exactly what they want.”

                      . . .

                      Can folks doomscroll on the fediverse? Yes. Can folks post on the fediverse? Yes. Might they post about the latest outrage of Trump? Yes, definitely.

                      Does that mean they are failing to fight incipient fascism? No.

                      In fact, I argue that the act of running, moderating, and participating in federated social media is precisely the sort of organizing that Rose calls for. It’s just taking place in a media environment, rather than, say, in an NGO’s offices in a city.

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                      “If there’s one thing I’d hoped people had learned going into the next four years of Donald Trump as president,” she writes,

                      Ever the optimist? The only four years thing i mean.

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