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    Lemmy.world

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    Oh, I thought their server was located in a different country. It's a bad idea to have a server in a location that the US government has authority over.

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    • sunshine@lemmy.caS [email protected]

      That’s about the same amount we have in BC. Norway must be crowded.

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      Not sure if I missed a joke or not. But no, Norway is far from crowded.

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      • samus12345@lemm.eeS [email protected]

        Oh, I thought their server was located in a different country. It's a bad idea to have a server in a location that the US government has authority over.

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        Lemmy.world is hosted in the Netherlands, if I'm not mistaken.

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          Well I guess this is only the domain and their server us hosted elsewhere. But good point.

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          True, but it still gives the Malian government an ultimate authority over the domain, which just seems completely dumb to me. The also-semi-failed Libya has ultimate authority over ly domains (like bit.ly) and has actually used its power to shut down domains for being against Libyan law. Domain hacks are not just ugly, they're dumb.

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            Lemmy.world is hosted in the Netherlands, if I'm not mistaken.

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            That's what I thought. I don't know if any big ones are hosted in the US.

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              The is a Greek sub, with a few news posts daily, but noone is really commenting yet.

              I had left the Greek sub on Reddit a few years back because the mods were assholes, so I don't really miss a Greek sub to be honest.

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              Which one is the Greek community?
              Those that I found are dead.

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                Nothing about the term tankie does or should deny their right to live. Advocating for the deaths of people who disagree with you is profoundly against everything liberalism (the freedom-based guiding principle of what we'd call "the west") stands for.

                To the contrary, as a pretty standard liberal American I fully support their rights to advocate for whatever they wish. Since there is no realistic way to accurately and objectively determine what is or is not propaganda, I support their right to create that as well.

                Regarding the utility of recognizing where propaganda comes from, it can occasionally be useful to know, as it tends to follow certain patterns based on the goals of whoever created it.

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                Since there is no realistic way to accurately and objectively determine what is or is not propaganda

                Can you realistically accurately and objectively determine that the source of the claim was a tankie?

                So it makes more sense to make wild claims about the person behind the message than it does to classify a piece of information based off of its linguistic characteristics?

                Also, identifying propaganda isn't difficult, I had to do it for classes in school several times. Here's a helpful reminder on how to do so.

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                • sunshine@lemmy.caS [email protected]

                  It should be noted that Feddit.org was included to represent Germany, Austria and Switzerland.

                  I did not include Baraza.africa as that was too encompassing as it covers the whole African continent.

                  Hopefully this post inspires more countries to join the blue club!

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                  #136

                  Feddit.ro exists

                  Its barely used though

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                    ml represents all dictatorships...

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                    Dictatorship of the proletariat, sure. But not for long IMO.

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                      Since there is no realistic way to accurately and objectively determine what is or is not propaganda

                      Can you realistically accurately and objectively determine that the source of the claim was a tankie?

                      So it makes more sense to make wild claims about the person behind the message than it does to classify a piece of information based off of its linguistic characteristics?

                      Also, identifying propaganda isn't difficult, I had to do it for classes in school several times. Here's a helpful reminder on how to do so.

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                      how you recognize propaganda is that everything is propaganda. your comment, this comment, the original article, the concept that russia remains communist, it's all propaganda. the key isn't learning to recognize propaganda, it's learning to analyze the biases of who's presenting the propaganda.

                      here, i'll tell you my biases. i'm an anarcho communist located in the united states. there. now that you have that intel, you can start to assess what kinds of propaganda you'd expect to see from me. more, when i don't put out the kinds of propaganda i promote, you can question the following:

                      1. do i have a blindspot? are my politics and my propaganda out of alignment because there's something that's been normalized to me that you should point out in the hopes i'm capable of growth (that's what i did when i said russia remaining communist simply isn't true)
                      2. am i misrepresenting myself or my propaganda? maybe i'm just saying i'm something i'm not to get my propaganda to people who are susceptible to not knowing my misinformation is misinformation, and then they'll be shifted. or, is my propaganda lie meant to draw people to my misinformation stream. in this case, it's best to disengage. block+report+ostricize+move on. this is what i would have done if i thought you were a tankie
                      3. do you have a blindspot? are my politics and my propaganda out of alignment because you, the recipient, are missing some piece of the puzzle. do you need to look into the validity of my claims to find out if you need to learn and grow and change? the equivalent to this would be if i found your message and your politics compelling enough to change my views

                      the kinds of classes we receive on how propaganda works in elementary and high school are meant to get us to rigidly stick to the status quo that benefits the authoritarian rulers of society. they are, themselves, propaganda. in fact, this notion you have that we can talk about propaganda without context i actually find a little bit dangerous. by stripping context and discussion of origins of propaganda, we actually create the exact form of non critical environment that benefits the misinformation peddlar.

                      then again, you don't have to find my perspective compelling. that's why i told you up front what it was, as well as what my propaganda is.

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                        What's the US one?

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                        midwest.social is sorta the defacto US-specific instance despite the name pointing to a specific region.

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                          midwest.social is sorta the defacto US-specific instance despite the name pointing to a specific region.

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                          Ah, that makes sense from the name.

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                          • quill7513@slrpnk.netQ [email protected]

                            how you recognize propaganda is that everything is propaganda. your comment, this comment, the original article, the concept that russia remains communist, it's all propaganda. the key isn't learning to recognize propaganda, it's learning to analyze the biases of who's presenting the propaganda.

                            here, i'll tell you my biases. i'm an anarcho communist located in the united states. there. now that you have that intel, you can start to assess what kinds of propaganda you'd expect to see from me. more, when i don't put out the kinds of propaganda i promote, you can question the following:

                            1. do i have a blindspot? are my politics and my propaganda out of alignment because there's something that's been normalized to me that you should point out in the hopes i'm capable of growth (that's what i did when i said russia remaining communist simply isn't true)
                            2. am i misrepresenting myself or my propaganda? maybe i'm just saying i'm something i'm not to get my propaganda to people who are susceptible to not knowing my misinformation is misinformation, and then they'll be shifted. or, is my propaganda lie meant to draw people to my misinformation stream. in this case, it's best to disengage. block+report+ostricize+move on. this is what i would have done if i thought you were a tankie
                            3. do you have a blindspot? are my politics and my propaganda out of alignment because you, the recipient, are missing some piece of the puzzle. do you need to look into the validity of my claims to find out if you need to learn and grow and change? the equivalent to this would be if i found your message and your politics compelling enough to change my views

                            the kinds of classes we receive on how propaganda works in elementary and high school are meant to get us to rigidly stick to the status quo that benefits the authoritarian rulers of society. they are, themselves, propaganda. in fact, this notion you have that we can talk about propaganda without context i actually find a little bit dangerous. by stripping context and discussion of origins of propaganda, we actually create the exact form of non critical environment that benefits the misinformation peddlar.

                            then again, you don't have to find my perspective compelling. that's why i told you up front what it was, as well as what my propaganda is.

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                            I don't believe that you can speak about propaganda without context, and I didn't claim that either. The "efficient phrases" thing is part of a puzzle, not the whole puzzle. What I do believe is that terms like "tankie" fill the same role "Jew" or "Gay" fill for the right. It's a term used to change the perception of the speaker from "person/human being" to "undesirable with a bad opinion"

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                            • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

                              Are we talking "nations that have an official Lemmy instance" or "nations in which some private citizen or resident just happens to host a Lemmy instance?"

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                              Probably the latter.

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                              • legolas@fedit.plL [email protected]

                                Strange that Spain and Norway don't have its own instance. Big countries

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                                Spain had smaller presence on Reddit as well. They tend to keep to other spanish speaking forums, often shared with Latin America.

                                Basically because there are so many Spanish speakers in the world, spaniards don't even bother to learn English or interact with the broader internet.

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                                  I'm surprised Lemmy apparently hasn't had any penetration into the Spanish-speaking world yet. Is there some other Reddit-like service that's popular with those folks?

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                                  There was a spanish Lemmy instance eslemmy.es or something similar, but apparently it's been down for months

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                                    It should be noted that Feddit.org was included to represent Germany, Austria and Switzerland.

                                    I did not include Baraza.africa as that was too encompassing as it covers the whole African continent.

                                    Hopefully this post inspires more countries to join the blue club!

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                                    I swear Mujico (Mexico) was around for a bit. I wonder if it's still up.

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                                      midwest.social is sorta the defacto US-specific instance despite the name pointing to a specific region.

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                                      But isnt it not hosted in the US?

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                                      • sunshine@lemmy.caS [email protected]

                                        It should be noted that Feddit.org was included to represent Germany, Austria and Switzerland.

                                        I did not include Baraza.africa as that was too encompassing as it covers the whole African continent.

                                        Hopefully this post inspires more countries to join the blue club!

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                                        Iirc there's one vietnamese guy on here that does tech related stuff

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                                          I'm surprised Lemmy apparently hasn't had any penetration into the Spanish-speaking world yet. Is there some other Reddit-like service that's popular with those folks?

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                                          It took us forever to adopt Reddit. I'm guessing it'll take us just as long to move to FOSS. On the bright side, Lemmy is gathering some attention.

                                          Here's one instance for Mexico https://mujico.org/ and I think there was one for one other SA country.

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