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Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other Manifest V2-based extensions in Edge

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  • kiuyn@lemmy.mlK [email protected]

    Did they fix the issue of their license partially closed? Or is it still the same

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    Yes, actually, they made the source available again.

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    • W [email protected]

      Yeah, I hate how projects become allergic to options. If you want to push your own agenda with new defaults, okay fine, but never ever remove options, let people keep it how they liked it.

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      I saw in their notes for the previous updates about the workspaces, which essentially said "workspaces are a major part of Zen, so you are no longer allowed to NOT use them". When it was clearly a viable option before. So much for being customizable!

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        Corps. All of the bells and whistles it has ties into the corps tenant which includes isolation of things like sync’d profiles, seamless sso, favorites, extensions, etc

        Since it’s all under the tenant, all of that data is subject to the same privacy and policies the corp and MS agreed to, which makes it easy to work with other companies that have their own client policy requirements.

        MS also makes it easy to control and harden all of their products including Edge using policy controls from a single UI.

        You can’t do any of this with Firefox without extra effort.

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        Yeah the level of control Active Directory can have over Edge is unparalleled. The entire industry would move to a more secure browser and can be centrally managed with Active Directory if something existed.

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        • W [email protected]

          My workplace configures edge and chrome by default, were very office365 integrated and support chrome for some dates specific thing.

          Now i am privileged with local admin powers so i have firefox. Still the integrations with edge run deep so i still have to use it lots of times. There are plans for copilot (which i find very dumb personall.

          I will however never use chrome (anymore). Google was the second tech giant i dropped after facebook. They cannot redeem themselves for destroying the web (opinion). I rarely use search engines anymore but i rather use bing and bing sucks. (duckduck is also based on bing)

          Sorry for the rant, but that was relieving.

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          At least Bing pays you to use them, so don't feel bad

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          • xnx@slrpnk.netX [email protected]

            You can remove that, i don’t see any workspaces

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            I have a feeling you might be one of those that turned their automatic updates off after an issue where they really, really fucked the UI up on Macs, or something like that. Or you might be a person who doesn't like the auto updates anywhere.

            I turned mine off for awhile, but don't want to catch anything when a new FF release rolls out, so I turned them back on, especially since I rarely use the browser anymore due to said changes with no user options.

            I'm on the latest version on Windows, Linux, and Mac. The option is gone, I'm afraid.

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              I have a feeling you might be one of those that turned their automatic updates off after an issue where they really, really fucked the UI up on Macs, or something like that. Or you might be a person who doesn't like the auto updates anywhere.

              I turned mine off for awhile, but don't want to catch anything when a new FF release rolls out, so I turned them back on, especially since I rarely use the browser anymore due to said changes with no user options.

              I'm on the latest version on Windows, Linux, and Mac. The option is gone, I'm afraid.

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              #55

              I’m on the latest version try installing this Zen Mod that lets you remove anything https://zen-browser.app/mods/ab9b529c-63d6-48c0-a59a-4a407c5c3129/

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              • xnx@slrpnk.netX [email protected]

                I’m on the latest version try installing this Zen Mod that lets you remove anything https://zen-browser.app/mods/ab9b529c-63d6-48c0-a59a-4a407c5c3129/

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                While I really appreciate you for helping, the fact that these were part of the core application, then taken away by the developers so that we rely on third parties to bring back, is my biggest gripe with the browser. The options were there, and they took them out. I would rather just go back to Firefox than deal with an always changing UI, and removal of options. 😕

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                • punchshark@lemmy.caP [email protected]

                  Ive been firefox for a long while now

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                  #57

                  Firefox has been my daily driver for a decade but that doesn't really change anything that I said.

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                    Infinite options is bad design for a number of reasons. One is that when everyone's experience is unique, troubleshooting is impossible. Two is that when you add an option, you have to support that option forever.

                    Options are expensive, at least if you want to keep your software working for a long period of time.

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                      While I really appreciate you for helping, the fact that these were part of the core application, then taken away by the developers so that we rely on third parties to bring back, is my biggest gripe with the browser. The options were there, and they took them out. I would rather just go back to Firefox than deal with an always changing UI, and removal of options. 😕

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                      I understand that feeling although they do mention it’s a browser in alpha still so i don’t judge them too harshly for it

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                      • negativenull@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                        Ladybird Browser is coming, but could be a couple years still

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                        BSD licensed

                        Ew. It ought to be AGPLv3.

                        (I almost just said "copyleft," but as Chromium proves, even LGPL is insufficient protection from corporate usurpation.)

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                        • F [email protected]

                          The latest Edge Canary version started disabling Manifest V2-based extensions with the following message: "This extension is no longer supported. Microsoft Edge recommends that you remove it." Although the browser turns off old extensions without asking, you can still make them work by clicking "Manage extension" and toggling it back (you will have to acknowledge another prompt).

                          At this point, it is not entirely clear what is going on. Google started phasing out Manifest V2 extensions in June 2024, and it has a clear roadmap for the process. Microsoft's documentation, however, still says "TBD," so the exact dates are not known yet. This leads to some speculating about the situation being one of "unexpected changes" coming from Chromium. Either way, sooner or later, Microsoft will ditch MV2-based extensions, so get ready as we wait for Microsoft to shine some light on its plans.

                          Another thing worth noting is that the change does not appear to be affecting Edge's stable release or Beta/Dev Channels. For now, only Canary versions disable uBlock Origin and other MV2 extensions, leaving users a way to toggle them back on. Also, the uBlock Origin is still available in the Edge Add-ons store

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                          I had a feeling this would happen. I have to use Google services for a lot of things at work and Edge works fine with them. Firefox usually does okay, but not always. And now Firefox is requiring you to hand over your data to them.

                          Can any Chromium-based browser refuse to turn on V3 or is it too baked-in without forking the entire project?

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                          • brobot9000@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                            Just discovered them yesterday and made the switch!

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                            How painless is it to carry over everything from Firefox?

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                              Yeah the level of control Active Directory can have over Edge is unparalleled. The entire industry would move to a more secure browser and can be centrally managed with Active Directory if something existed.

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                              Chrome has admx templates for AD that give you the same level of control.

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                                The latest Edge Canary version started disabling Manifest V2-based extensions with the following message: "This extension is no longer supported. Microsoft Edge recommends that you remove it." Although the browser turns off old extensions without asking, you can still make them work by clicking "Manage extension" and toggling it back (you will have to acknowledge another prompt).

                                At this point, it is not entirely clear what is going on. Google started phasing out Manifest V2 extensions in June 2024, and it has a clear roadmap for the process. Microsoft's documentation, however, still says "TBD," so the exact dates are not known yet. This leads to some speculating about the situation being one of "unexpected changes" coming from Chromium. Either way, sooner or later, Microsoft will ditch MV2-based extensions, so get ready as we wait for Microsoft to shine some light on its plans.

                                Another thing worth noting is that the change does not appear to be affecting Edge's stable release or Beta/Dev Channels. For now, only Canary versions disable uBlock Origin and other MV2 extensions, leaving users a way to toggle them back on. Also, the uBlock Origin is still available in the Edge Add-ons store

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                                Fancy firefox-based browser along the lines of Arc?

                                https://zen-browser.app/

                                Worth a look if you're a web power-user / developer sort of person

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                                  Wait, is that all? Because its not a permanent forever fix for Edge users its downvote worthy?

                                  • Maybe Vivaldi or Brave users are reading this article thinking their Manifest v2 support is ending at the same time as Edge? It isn't and I'm letting those users know.

                                  • Maybe there is some critical functionality someone needs in a Chrome based browser and they'll take Manifest v2 support wherever they can get it for as long as they can?

                                  Do you think your specific situation, and therefore your specific desired solution, is the only one in the world that exists?

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                                  Because its not a permanent forever fix for Edge users its downvote worthy?

                                  Yes.

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                                    Fancy firefox-based browser along the lines of Arc?

                                    https://zen-browser.app/

                                    Worth a look if you're a web power-user / developer sort of person

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                                    I use love the mod feature

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                                      Because its not a permanent forever fix for Edge users its downvote worthy?

                                      Yes.

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                                      Yes.

                                      I really appreciate the honesty, thank you. I not don't have to care that those downvotes are rational.

                                      Following this same logic I imagine you downvote any treatments that extend the life of cancer patients because the new treatments aren't full cures.

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                                      • tommasz@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                        I had a feeling this would happen. I have to use Google services for a lot of things at work and Edge works fine with them. Firefox usually does okay, but not always. And now Firefox is requiring you to hand over your data to them.

                                        Can any Chromium-based browser refuse to turn on V3 or is it too baked-in without forking the entire project?

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                                        IIRC Vivaldi and Brave promised to prolong it for a year.

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                                          On the rare occasion I want to stream movies while on my PC at 1080p, because most online movie services will only stream 1080p to Edge. Some times Chrome will be allowed to stream 1080p but it's pretty hit or miss in my experience. On another note, basically no streaming services will stream movies to you in 4k on a PC, I've also found most streaming apps on my phone won't give me 4k either, you can only really get 4k streaming to a smart TV... it's pretty ridiculous.

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                                          Why let the streaming services tell you what you can or can't watch videos on when you can just pirate everything?

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