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Funkwhale Wants to Filter Out Far-Right Music

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  • roofuskit@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

    If only funkwhale wasn't such a royal pain in the ass.

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    Yeah, the UX is historically not great. I'm also pretty sure that the federated social layer is still kind of non-existent at this point. It used to be that you could upload your own music and share it, but you'd never see replies from anybody.

    It's like someone took a Grooveshark clone, shoehorned federation into it, and then kind of made some features act like SoundCloud, if you squint. But, they didn't really finish the transition.

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    • fizz@lemmy.nzF [email protected]

      While that is funny and certainly deserved. Normally I would say that its not their place to decide that but fuck right wingers they deserve to be purged out of every single space they have.

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      I'm a bit torn on the idea, myself. On one hand, fuck fascists, don't let 'em have an inch. But on the other hand, this does kinda take away a users' freedoms with the software.

      Honestly, I think it's fine if it's a plugin or something that you can install at your own discretion or something. Or if it's baked-in, it should be an opt-in setting. I'm of the opinion that the actual software, itself, should be apolitical. It's something I can respect the Lemmy devs for, after all; even though I disagree with their politics, the actual Lemmy code is politically agnostic, and I think that's for the best.

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        Just ban country music and you've covered like 80% of it.

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        As a fan of the odd bit of black metal, I would appreciate the 20% being dealt with

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        • deadsuperhero@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

          Yeah, the UX is historically not great. I'm also pretty sure that the federated social layer is still kind of non-existent at this point. It used to be that you could upload your own music and share it, but you'd never see replies from anybody.

          It's like someone took a Grooveshark clone, shoehorned federation into it, and then kind of made some features act like SoundCloud, if you squint. But, they didn't really finish the transition.

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          Setup is also huge pain and it has compatibility issues with clients that use the subsonic API. Every step of the way something I needed from it had issues. I gave up running one funkwhale instance for multiple users and instead spun up 4 Navidrome instances. Not only was it easier and more stable it also uses less resources than one funkwhale setup.

          As much as I love the idea of funkwhale it's just so far away from usable.

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          • deadsuperhero@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

            The Funkwhale music platform is alive and in active development, and they're working on a feature to filter far-right artists off the network. Some Fediverse self-hosters are divided on letting a third party decide what should be allowed in their library.

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            What exactly is funkwhale? It looks like a federated music platform of some sort?

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            • deadsuperhero@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

              Yeah, the UX is historically not great. I'm also pretty sure that the federated social layer is still kind of non-existent at this point. It used to be that you could upload your own music and share it, but you'd never see replies from anybody.

              It's like someone took a Grooveshark clone, shoehorned federation into it, and then kind of made some features act like SoundCloud, if you squint. But, they didn't really finish the transition.

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              @[email protected] OMG roastmaster Sean, where can I subscribe to hear more of this.

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              • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                What exactly is funkwhale? It looks like a federated music platform of some sort?

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                It's basically an open source, federated clone of GrooveShark, which was kind of like Plex but just for music.

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                • deadsuperhero@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                  Generally speaking, I agree. It's just interesting to see a platform force a mechanism into itself that admins can't turn off. The only thing that really bugs me about that is that admins are kind of supposed to have the final say on what their server does, and some of the infrastructure for this idea seems a bit shaky at best.

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                  Its open source, the admins can turn it off by reverting the patch. The person who coded it has the final say on what their software does in an open source world if you dont like it you are welcome to fork it. The fork should still be able to connect to the network and interact as it did before.

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                    As a fan of the odd bit of black metal, I would appreciate the 20% being dealt with

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                    At least most nsbm sucks or have names like "ss wehrwulf division 1488".

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                    • roofuskit@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                      If only funkwhale wasn't such a royal pain in the ass.

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                      And had a way to support artists

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                      • deadsuperhero@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                        It's basically an open source, federated clone of GrooveShark, which was kind of like Plex but just for music.

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                        Huh. Well that seems pretty cool

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                        • deadsuperhero@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                          The Funkwhale music platform is alive and in active development, and they're working on a feature to filter far-right artists off the network. Some Fediverse self-hosters are divided on letting a third party decide what should be allowed in their library.

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                          They have benefitted from and encouraged 'but if you do that you're no diffrent from-' spinelessness.

                          Their entire gameplan has been to whine and sob and play victim while demanding 'we' march to where they are, while they take two more steps back and whine and sob more at how we're extremists.

                          So. Fuck 'em.

                          Their 'compromise' is 'we give them everything, and get nothing in return.'

                          Show them that they are not welcome or wanted.

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                            At least most nsbm sucks or have names like "ss wehrwulf division 1488".

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                            But there is a load of really dodge black metal that is much more cryptic, not being blatant but made by Nazis like Deathspell Omega, Mgla, Drudkh and Winterfyllth. I've been in the scene a long time and been fooled by some of these.

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                            • deadsuperhero@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                              The Funkwhale music platform is alive and in active development, and they're working on a feature to filter far-right artists off the network. Some Fediverse self-hosters are divided on letting a third party decide what should be allowed in their library.

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                              Somewhat off topic but I was totally convinced that Funkwhale had died so I ditched my pod and moved to Navidrome, I wasn't using federation so I wasn't really the intended audience. I'm glad they are still going though. But personally I've had a better experience with Navidrome with Feishin as a player.

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                                But there is a load of really dodge black metal that is much more cryptic, not being blatant but made by Nazis like Deathspell Omega, Mgla, Drudkh and Winterfyllth. I've been in the scene a long time and been fooled by some of these.

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                                Oh for sure, there's exceptions to the rule, I've been fooled too. Peste Noir, Drudkh, Deathspell Omega, Burzum all end up on essentials lists, definitely contributes.

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                                • chozo@fedia.ioC [email protected]

                                  I'm a bit torn on the idea, myself. On one hand, fuck fascists, don't let 'em have an inch. But on the other hand, this does kinda take away a users' freedoms with the software.

                                  Honestly, I think it's fine if it's a plugin or something that you can install at your own discretion or something. Or if it's baked-in, it should be an opt-in setting. I'm of the opinion that the actual software, itself, should be apolitical. It's something I can respect the Lemmy devs for, after all; even though I disagree with their politics, the actual Lemmy code is politically agnostic, and I think that's for the best.

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                                  I'm sure people are still free to take the code and make the necessary adjustments if they really need to host a Nazi-friendly instance.

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                                    They have benefitted from and encouraged 'but if you do that you're no diffrent from-' spinelessness.

                                    Their entire gameplan has been to whine and sob and play victim while demanding 'we' march to where they are, while they take two more steps back and whine and sob more at how we're extremists.

                                    So. Fuck 'em.

                                    Their 'compromise' is 'we give them everything, and get nothing in return.'

                                    Show them that they are not welcome or wanted.

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                                    Are you taking about funkwhale or the right wingers?

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                                      I'm sure people are still free to take the code and make the necessary adjustments if they really need to host a Nazi-friendly instance.

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                                      Which is an outcome I actually worry about, if they implemented this feature in Funkwhale. A fascist fork of the app existing and having a userbase gives it legitimacy. It immediately sells itself to those people: "Come to our free speech music platform" will bring in a lot of new users, very easily.

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                                      • chozo@fedia.ioC [email protected]

                                        Which is an outcome I actually worry about, if they implemented this feature in Funkwhale. A fascist fork of the app existing and having a userbase gives it legitimacy. It immediately sells itself to those people: "Come to our free speech music platform" will bring in a lot of new users, very easily.

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                                        I mean, that's the freedom you've been so concerned about only two posts ago. it's a similar situation with Gab and Truth.social. they both use Mastodon's code, but everyone else distances themselves from them.

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                                        • xnx@slrpnk.netX [email protected]

                                          And had a way to support artists

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                                          How would you do it directly in the software?

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