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US prosecutors to seek death penalty for Luigi Mangione

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  • callatecoyote@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

    Works for me. I'm over wasting my time on platforms where I'm not allowed to praise the great man Luigi for his wonderful deeds and wish for more like them. Because that's how I honestly feel and I won't apologize for it!

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    Honestly we shouldn't discount the possibility that Luigi is innocent or that there was planted evidence

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    • ksin@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

      That's seems pretty damn ballsy of them since unless they are extremely confident in the jury selection it's practically guaranteed to result in a hung jury if they know that finding him guilty will result in the most severe verdict.

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      Yeah there's no better reason to use jury nullification than when government wants to kill a guy for political reasons.

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      • ksin@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

        That's seems pretty damn ballsy of them since unless they are extremely confident in the jury selection it's practically guaranteed to result in a hung jury if they know that finding him guilty will result in the most severe verdict.

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        Federal juries are way, way easier to tilt towards the prosecution, and the judge has far more power, even assuming he isn't a Trump appointee.

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        • sanctus@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

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          Wow. There's a huge disparity between the brows on those two. No matter how blurry the first pics are, the thickness of Luigi's brows would be noticeable. The person in that camera footage definitely doesn't have thick eyebrows like Luigi šŸ˜•

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          • P [email protected]

            Bizzare. Americans are seriously crazy. It's a monarchy really, it's so in your face, like a bad comedy.

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            No, it's just tvat the south hates everything abkht the rest of America, and have done since we took their slaves away

            They support anything that hurts everyone else, or as they call it: 'Owning the libs'.

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              Honestly we shouldn't discount the possibility that Luigi is innocent or that there was planted evidence

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              Then may the true assassin do some more good work out there and clear his name...

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              • V [email protected]

                Then they'll need the knowledge and a decent poker face 🤷

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                Now your asking them to commit perjury - which is also bad. (In case anyone reads this and decides to try their best poker face)

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                  They are going to give him a laptop, right?!?

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                    This administration is too stupid to realize they’re sitting on a powder keg? By all means light the match…..let’s see what happens

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                    • dalegribble88@programming.devD [email protected]

                      Now your asking them to commit perjury - which is also bad. (In case anyone reads this and decides to try their best poker face)

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                      Now your asking them to commit perjury

                      Only if they specifically ask "do you know about jury nullification?"

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                        But what if he runs for office? Then he can't be convicted, right?

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                        Start the campaign now for President in 2256. Wouldn't want the judges to look politically biased, they'll have to hold off on sentencing until after the election.

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                        • null@slrpnk.netN [email protected]

                          Now your asking them to commit perjury

                          Only if they specifically ask "do you know about jury nullification?"

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                          No, they usually ask something like "Do you have any personal beliefs that would prevent you from returning a guilty verdict involved with this type of crime?" - seriously yall, this shit isn't hard to look up and is usually posted right alongside explanations for what jury nullification is. Frankly, I doubt anyone reading this is rich enough to pull the "you didn't specifically ask about jury nullification therefore I technically did not commit perjury"-card.

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                            Not to mention, the minute it happens, the government will carpet the skies with observation drones in the name of safety

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                            Maybe, but honestly there isn't too much a need for them to thanks to the existence of things like TLO. Maybe for surveillance over less developed areas?

                            Idk I'm not happy about any of this but it's interesting to speculate what a modern day cyberpunk is going to look like.

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                              Bizzare. Americans are seriously crazy. It's a monarchy really, it's so in your face, like a bad comedy.

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                              It’s a monarchy really

                              Yes, this is actually a much more helpful way to think about Trump's approach to presidency. Here is Dr David Smith from the United States Studies Centre explaining this in a recent episode of PEP (excellent in-depth American politics podcast from Australia).

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                              • sanctus@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

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                                When was the bottom photo taken?

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                                • J [email protected]

                                  Drone warfare is politically agnostic. If it can be used by a Luigi against a healthcare CEO, it can be used by far-right extremists against progressive politicians, pride parades, or Black churches. I'm not very jazzed to live in the world of Slaughterbots.

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                                  I feel with that interpretation, any weapon is politically agnostic. Which I'd agree with given the use of firearms used by far right extremists to shoot up Walmarts, clubs, and churches. They've already been using weapons against their "adversaries" like the domestic terrorists they are.

                                  But agreed, I'm not actually excited about it. The premise is horrifying. I do hope the good guys pull the trigger first on this one.

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                                  • C [email protected]

                                    You want martyrs?? 'Cause that's how you get martyrs!

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                                    Have you seen how long it takes someone to get through death row? If convicted, he will sit for 20 years. Far far beyond the current political discourse.

                                    If he gets convicted, that will be a stink for a while. But by the time they kill him, he will be a distant memory.

                                    Martyrs die when the timing is optimal. If it isnt the right time, they are just a name on a gravestone. And we have plenty of those.

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                                    • dalegribble88@programming.devD [email protected]

                                      Now your asking them to commit perjury - which is also bad. (In case anyone reads this and decides to try their best poker face)

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                                      Now you're asking them to commit perjury - which is also bad.

                                      Only if they get caught and punished for it. Laws exist to discourage bad behavior, which lying in service of justice isn't, so in this case breaking the law is the morally correct thing to do.

                                      Like shooting a billionaire or the CEO of a predatory corporation.

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                                      • callatecoyote@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                        Then may the true assassin do some more good work out there and clear his name...

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                                        Or the victim had a run in with the actual clients who now frame the left for it and kill two birds with one stone that way.

                                        Tinfoil hat off

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                                        • K [email protected]

                                          You know they'll disqualify anyone who might even hint at knowledge of jury nullification from the jury pool. They'll be selected on their ability to convict solely.

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                                          Thats why EVERYONE needs to know it. You can't disqualify everyone.

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