US warns EU against excluding American companies from € 150 billion defense initiative which can supply Ukraine with weapons
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But isn't the EU's military self-sufficient the thing that the US has been talking about for so long?
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But isn't the EU's military self-sufficient the thing that the US has been talking about for so long?
Yes but they want to make money as well. It's a conundrum they are too stupid to solve.
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Yes but they want to make money as well. It's a conundrum they are too stupid to solve.
Maybe some tariffs then? You know, to balance the US-EU weapons trade? How much EU weaponry does the US buy?
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But isn't the EU's military self-sufficient the thing that the US has been talking about for so long?
Yes but not like that.jpg
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Well the US used to be the primary supplier. Until a month or so ago. Kind of brought it on yourself yeah?
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But isn't the EU's military self-sufficient the thing that the US has been talking about for so long?
They want the EU members to have large armies equipped with american weapons.
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Well the US used to be the primary supplier. Until a month or so ago. Kind of brought it on yourself yeah?
I really hope the EU will just cut the USA wherever possible!
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They want the EU members to have large armies equipped with american weapons.
it's called "racketeering"
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We fully support that you want to be independent from us, but you need to buy from us to do it (and still be dependent on us).
Sounds like a an abusive relationship to me
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I really hope the EU will just cut the USA wherever possible!
Buy EU products!
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They want the EU members to have large armies equipped with american weapons.
And then they build in a switch-off trigger so that when their allies, the Russians, and they will attack us - according to the so called Trump-Putin agreement - they can switch off all the weapons.
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They want the EU members to have large armies equipped with american weapons.
Even if a country has a very efficient military, or an ineffective one, "spend 5%!!!".
On USA weapons ofc.
Because spending more needs time to ramp up, relevant, arms production. Or buy from the USA of course.
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But maybe Europe simply does not want anymore.
Maybe this monetary "initiative" has been created exactly for this not wanting American weapons anymore.
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Rubio warned that excluding American firms from European tenders would be viewed negatively by Washington—an implicit criticism of the EU’s proposed procurement rules.
Oh no! If we don't buy any weapons, they might not want to sell us weapons anymore!
A Nordic diplomat not present at the Baltic meeting confirmed that US officials recently conveyed their concerns, stating that any exclusion from EU arms purchases would be inappropriate.
Yeah, the US has recently done just a few things that "would be inappropriate" as well, so I think we're on good ethical ground here.
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Maybe some tariffs then? You know, to balance the US-EU weapons trade? How much EU weaponry does the US buy?
Hey, the US can still bid on EU arms programs, but we'll have to put a 200% tarriff in to balance the trade, because that's totally how it works.
Wait, let me check with chatGPT to confirm.
Yep, that's how it works!
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But isn't the EU's military self-sufficient the thing that the US has been talking about for so long?
No, they want Europe to pay for its own defense. That still would include buying US weapons.
Basically the US was the worlds police until recently. That gave them a lot of global influence mainyl the USD being the global currency. However it also required them to have a massive military and do things like supporting Ukraine, which obviously cost a lot. So they want other reasonable countries to pay for their own defense to keep their costs down. That however always meant still buying US weapons. The problem being that for some like the EU a working defense means less reliance on the US, hence less benefits.
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We fully support that you want to be independent from us, but you need to buy from us to do it (and still be dependent on us).
Sounds like a an abusive relationship to me
There is still about 100,000 US soldiers stationed all over Europe. It was never about having any sort of equality and mutual respect in that relationship. Previous US administrations just chose to not say this too loudly.
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Maybe some tariffs then? You know, to balance the US-EU weapons trade? How much EU weaponry does the US buy?
Since war weapons are bought by the government with public money, putting tariffs on them doesn't do anything. You can only make an effect with tariffs on purchases by private entities. In that sense the EU could put tariffs on weapon parts that European manufacturers buy from the US. I am not sure how big that market is though. AFAIK a lot of EU components end up in US weapons, for instance optics for military vehicles.
