Is censorship ok if the person you're censoring is wrong?
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Refer to the replies of others here who are having less difficulty than you. Use the power of Lemmy.
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You got a better one?
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That's efficient
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In Reddit and Lemmy the names of the censors are hidden, and the debate is hidden too.
I don't know how they do it on X and Facebook.
If a post or comment is removed on lemmy you can see the removed content and who removed it in the modlog
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We're talking about removing stuff at the judgment of the presiding authority.
Rationale is infinitely flexible. It will never be science. So it cannot be relied upon.
So, ideals aside, consider it in that light. Be realistic.
I did consider it in that light. This analysis is from the perspective of an observer, not the presiding body. Since the presiding body's reasoning cannot be known, we observers just look for patterns of removal to determine whether censorship is occurring. These are the pattern-markers I look for.
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It's not about right or wrong.
Censorship is okay if the content harms those who hear it. You censor a naked man jacking off in a kindergarden because it will traumatize the children (and possibly more people).
If someone consistently spreads misinformation or disinformation that sounds convincing and will likely harm people (think donald trump and alice weidel) you need to censor them to protect those who are unable to understand the vileness of their agenda.
Equally, you need to educate both children to not go home with the nice man and the public to not listen to fascists and neoliberals.
I think this is where my belief ends up as well. In an ideal world we have great debates and good overcomes evil, but I think most of us sooner or later come to a point where it is hard to care. Protecting the vulnerable seems to be more important than 100% freedom of speech and acts.
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Don't understand >> troll.
That's efficient
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If a post or comment is removed on lemmy you can see the removed content and who removed it in the modlog
You can see the reason cited.
In almost all cases you cannot see who did it.
Any conversation about it is, as a rule, private
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I did consider it in that light. This analysis is from the perspective of an observer, not the presiding body. Since the presiding body's reasoning cannot be known, we observers just look for patterns of removal to determine whether censorship is occurring. These are the pattern-markers I look for.
Ha ha. What is the plan of this invisible deity?
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Ha ha. What is the plan of this invisible deity?
Invisible deity? The observers are you and me.
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some debates are harmful. fox news often has "debates" which are staged performances. the debate isn't important, the honesty is.
See: "openly"
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Maybe the power to censor could be kept out of the hands of individuals. Make it a democratic decision.
Not sure a tyranny of the masses is a good idea, but maybe some community sourced guidelines on what works... But a lot of online communities are already based off of what works for communities, even if enforcement can be flawed.
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Yeah, but once the power is there it will be used for less legit reasons, like removing "saying nice stuff about the wrong politician".
I'd call that crossing the line.
Censoring this may not be the same as censoring that. We might all be fine with censoring this, but censoring that is crossing the line. It doesn't mean that the first scenario is wrong just because the second is.
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No matter what authority, rationale or interpretation cited, it comes to the judgment of the person actually pulling the trigger.
But this is obvious.
LOL, banned after only a day, huh?
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See: "openly"
your definition is arbitrary, which makes it meaningless.
