I'm gonna mute this one
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I will not, as I voted against it, which is more than the Democrats can say
Was there a candidate that was against it? There were two options: genocide and turbo genocide. A vote "against it" (third party) is a vote that helped the winner.
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"The American People" are not a monolith, we are actually composed of a diverse group of hundreds of millions of people. Blaming every person in the country for the actions of some is reductive, myopic, and ignorant.
Your uninformed take is about as nuanced as claiming Sophie Scholl was just as responsible for The 3rd Reich as Adolf Hitler because she didn't do more to stop him.
Who knows, given your utter lack of understanding, you might well believe that.
I've already explained in great detail how it actually is the DNC and not the voters who decides who wins the primaries. If your reading comprehension is really that lacking, I'm not sure I can help you with your problem. If you still don't understand try having an adult explain it to you.
Good Luck with whatever your issue is. Hopefully you are fortunate enough to live somewhere that you have access to good mental health treatment.
I'm not blaming "every single individual person". I'm blaming "the American people", who elected trump. Twice.
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So are you mad at the dems for making the genocide even worse by doing a genocide which helped them lose an election thus making the genocide worse?
Why is it leftsts' fault for telling the truth and not dems' fault for making it true?
Why do we have to be fair to the dems to agree that Trump's genocide would be worse when the dems worked so hard to make "worse" virtually unimaginable?
Why do we have to be fair to you by always saying Trump is worse but you don't have to be fair to us by acknowledging that there is an actual genocide?
Just because you have some mental gymnastics to explain why the dems' genocide is somehow something we shouldn't talk about doesn't mean you're not denying it.
I have acknowledged that there is a genocide hundreds of times, check my comment history, and I can say it again: fuck Israel and fuck the IDF, they are commuting genocide and the world is standing by either helping or not stopping them. I don't see any harm in repeating it again.
Now: The American people decided who wins the election, not dems. Not the DNC. Not George Soros. If the American people really didn't want genocide they would elect candidates in primaries that were anti genocide (they didn't) or they would vote for the candidate who wanted to just maintain the genocide as it is instead of accelerating it (they didn't).
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I'm not blaming "every single individual person". I'm blaming "the American people", who elected trump. Twice.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I'm not sure what you are trying to say. I'm not even sure you know what you are trying to say.
"The American People" includes every single individual person who lives in the U.S. Your statement is a non sequitur.
I certainly didn't elect Trump, either time. Neither did my fellow leftists. Not a single leftist voted for Trump, guaranteed.
It's also obvious you aren't arguing in good faith, so I'm way past the point of giving your lame ass trolling the benefit of the doubt.
Get help.
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I'm not sure what you are trying to say. I'm not even sure you know what you are trying to say.
"The American People" includes every single individual person who lives in the U.S. Your statement is a non sequitur.
I certainly didn't elect Trump, either time. Neither did my fellow leftists. Not a single leftist voted for Trump, guaranteed.
It's also obvious you aren't arguing in good faith, so I'm way past the point of giving your lame ass trolling the benefit of the doubt.
Get help.
You can blame a group without blaming every single member of the group individually. Like BP is responsible for an oil spill, but Joe the janitor of the local gas station isn't.
Public education in the US really sucks, huh?
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You can blame a group without blaming every single member of the group individually. Like BP is responsible for an oil spill, but Joe the janitor of the local gas station isn't.
Public education in the US really sucks, huh?
wrote last edited by [email protected]You can blame a group without blaming every single member of the group individually.
What an ignorant statement lmfao. When you blame an entire group of people for something, that includes all of the individuals within that group. It's like if you said "All Berries are gross" but then I say "What about Blueberries" and you respond with "I didn't mean Blueberries". If you said "Most Berries are gross" or "Some Berries are gross" or "All Berries are gross with the exception of Blueberries" that would be a different story, because words have meanings.
"The American People" are no more responsible for Trump being elected than "The German People" were responsible for the Nazi's or "Everyone who works for BP" is responsible for Oil spills.
Your lame attempt to use semantic wordplay to backpedal your moronic "Leftists Got Trump Elected" claim might have held more weight if the context of the entire conversation wasn't already which specific groups within the U.S. are responsible for Trump being elected.
Blaming "U.S. Leftists" for Trump is every bit as reasonable as blaming "The White Rose" for the Nazi's or "Joe the Janitor" for the Deepwater Horizon. My assertion that lumping all Americans together as if we are a homogeneous group is reductive, myopic, and ignorant stands.
Public education in the US really sucks, huh?
It sure does, my guess is you were 'educated' here and were bougie enough to afford to emigrate to somewhere in Europe that is a much more normal place to live than the U.S. and now you sit around in your place of privilege judging the people in the country you abandoned when you aren't sniffing your own farts. It's either that or you are one of those uppity Europeans who believes your country has always been perfect and you are better than Americans because you happened to not be born in crazy town and your education system isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Congratulations on your sense of superiority, I'm sure you believe you have earned it.
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You can blame a group without blaming every single member of the group individually.
What an ignorant statement lmfao. When you blame an entire group of people for something, that includes all of the individuals within that group. It's like if you said "All Berries are gross" but then I say "What about Blueberries" and you respond with "I didn't mean Blueberries". If you said "Most Berries are gross" or "Some Berries are gross" or "All Berries are gross with the exception of Blueberries" that would be a different story, because words have meanings.
"The American People" are no more responsible for Trump being elected than "The German People" were responsible for the Nazi's or "Everyone who works for BP" is responsible for Oil spills.
Your lame attempt to use semantic wordplay to backpedal your moronic "Leftists Got Trump Elected" claim might have held more weight if the context of the entire conversation wasn't already which specific groups within the U.S. are responsible for Trump being elected.
Blaming "U.S. Leftists" for Trump is every bit as reasonable as blaming "The White Rose" for the Nazi's or "Joe the Janitor" for the Deepwater Horizon. My assertion that lumping all Americans together as if we are a homogeneous group is reductive, myopic, and ignorant stands.
Public education in the US really sucks, huh?
It sure does, my guess is you were 'educated' here and were bougie enough to afford to emigrate to somewhere in Europe that is a much more normal place to live than the U.S. and now you sit around in your place of privilege judging the people in the country you abandoned when you aren't sniffing your own farts. It's either that or you are one of those uppity Europeans who believes your country has always been perfect and you are better than Americans because you happened to not be born in crazy town and your education system isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Congratulations on your sense of superiority, I'm sure you believe you have earned it.
What on earth makes you remotely think I'm American?? Holy molly.
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What on earth makes you remotely think I'm American?? Holy molly.
Maybe because you are speaking of things that you obviously haven't the foggiest clue about as if you are an expert on them.
If you are saying you aren't American, that's sad. I guess the Education systems in Europe aren't as grand as they are made out to be.
You know where I'm from, don't be a coward- state where you are from- I'm sure your country and people are 100% perfect and always have been.
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Maybe because you are speaking of things that you obviously haven't the foggiest clue about as if you are an expert on them.
If you are saying you aren't American, that's sad. I guess the Education systems in Europe aren't as grand as they are made out to be.
You know where I'm from, don't be a coward- state where you are from- I'm sure your country and people are 100% perfect and always have been.
Oh, the irony.
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I have acknowledged that there is a genocide hundreds of times, check my comment history, and I can say it again: fuck Israel and fuck the IDF, they are commuting genocide and the world is standing by either helping or not stopping them. I don't see any harm in repeating it again.
Now: The American people decided who wins the election, not dems. Not the DNC. Not George Soros. If the American people really didn't want genocide they would elect candidates in primaries that were anti genocide (they didn't) or they would vote for the candidate who wanted to just maintain the genocide as it is instead of accelerating it (they didn't).
wrote last edited by [email protected]But every time we said the dems were doing a genocide we were supposed to say that Trump would somehow be worse, but when you complain about us talking about the dems' complicity in genocide, somehow you don't have to mention that it's a genocide? Because you didn't do that.
And despite the fact that you acknowledge the dems are complicit in genocide, you have no criticism of that becuase... something about democracy?
Also if the electorate wants genocide that badly, then why is it bad if we put the genocide at their feet? Aren't we helping them in that case? What are you upset about then?
If the American people really didn't want genocide they would elect candidates in primaries that were anti genocide (they didn't) or they would vote for the candidate who wanted to just maintain the genocide as it is instead of accelerating it (they didn't).
You should say, "Yes, that's my favourite genocider! A vote for Joe is a vote for genocide!" waves tiny plastic flag
Your genocide apologia is breaking your brain.
You could also learn the most basic facts about the US electoral system and understand that it is not democratic in the slightest, and people do not have a meaningful chance to vote for what they want.
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Oh, the irony.
Yes, it is quite Ironic that you seem to spend all your time online criticizing the U.S. when you are too much of a chicken shit to even mention where you are from. Weird. I wonder why that is?
What a fucking minute, you are a god damn Kraut aren't you? LMFAO
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Yes, it is quite Ironic that you seem to spend all your time online criticizing the U.S. when you are too much of a chicken shit to even mention where you are from. Weird. I wonder why that is?
What a fucking minute, you are a god damn Kraut aren't you? LMFAO
No wonder you wouldn't say. This is too precious.If by Kraut you mean German, then no, but I do speak the language. Do you automatically assume someone is from a country they speak the language of? You will have to go much deeper into my comment history to find out. Have fun!
Not that is relevant in any way to the discussion how the American voters chose trump and now are trying to blame anyone by themselves. The DNC! The jews! The Russians! Soros! The billionaires!
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But every time we said the dems were doing a genocide we were supposed to say that Trump would somehow be worse, but when you complain about us talking about the dems' complicity in genocide, somehow you don't have to mention that it's a genocide? Because you didn't do that.
And despite the fact that you acknowledge the dems are complicit in genocide, you have no criticism of that becuase... something about democracy?
Also if the electorate wants genocide that badly, then why is it bad if we put the genocide at their feet? Aren't we helping them in that case? What are you upset about then?
If the American people really didn't want genocide they would elect candidates in primaries that were anti genocide (they didn't) or they would vote for the candidate who wanted to just maintain the genocide as it is instead of accelerating it (they didn't).
You should say, "Yes, that's my favourite genocider! A vote for Joe is a vote for genocide!" waves tiny plastic flag
Your genocide apologia is breaking your brain.
You could also learn the most basic facts about the US electoral system and understand that it is not democratic in the slightest, and people do not have a meaningful chance to vote for what they want.
Pick a lane to acuse me of, you're all over the place. Do you think I like genocide or that I want to minimize it?
My point is very clear: people complaining about dems support of genocide while being silent about gop support (including "genocide Joe" chanters, 3rd party voters and non-voters), helped trump win and are responsible for the next 4 years of turbo genocide. Maybe even for some unpaid vacation in Iran.
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If by Kraut you mean German, then no, but I do speak the language. Do you automatically assume someone is from a country they speak the language of? You will have to go much deeper into my comment history to find out. Have fun!
Not that is relevant in any way to the discussion how the American voters chose trump and now are trying to blame anyone by themselves. The DNC! The jews! The Russians! Soros! The billionaires!
Don't bullshit me Jerry, and don't flatter yourself.
I really don't give a shit what you are about, you are clearly a foreign agent trying to influence American politics with strawman arguments and only the most superficial understanding of how things work, so your opinion means less than nothing.
You sound just like a MAGAt, ignoring facts just to trumpet your own sad version of reality. Pathetic
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Don't bullshit me Jerry, and don't flatter yourself.
I really don't give a shit what you are about, you are clearly a foreign agent trying to influence American politics with strawman arguments and only the most superficial understanding of how things work, so your opinion means less than nothing.
You sound just like a MAGAt, ignoring facts just to trumpet your own sad version of reality. Pathetic
I am foreign, and I would like Americans to elect smarter people. I'll settle for less evil. Hell, at this point I'll settle for competent. So yes, I'm a foreign agent trying to influence American politics, that's the first thing you got right.
Although to be honest, at this point and for the next 3 years, I'm in the eat popcorn and look at the face eating leopards. Maybe with an "I told you so" thrown in.
Have the day you voted for!
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I am foreign, and I would like Americans to elect smarter people. I'll settle for less evil. Hell, at this point I'll settle for competent. So yes, I'm a foreign agent trying to influence American politics, that's the first thing you got right.
Although to be honest, at this point and for the next 3 years, I'm in the eat popcorn and look at the face eating leopards. Maybe with an "I told you so" thrown in.
Have the day you voted for!
would like Americans to elect smarter people. I’ll settle for less evil. Hell, at this point I’ll settle for competent.
As would the majority of Americans. You know what's not going to help with that? Ignorant ass jerk offs trying to put the meme into peoples heads that the fact that the DNC propped up a authoritarian pro-slavery pig was fine and good actually. That the fucking committee that literally runs the elections and admitted in Federal Court that they choose who the Dem candidate is going to be has no bearing on who wins the primaries. That billionaires and corporations have zero interest in politics and are good guys actually who don't put massive resources into controlling the narrative. That the Russians who we know for a fact are interfering with U.S. politics are just innocent bystanders, despite Trump publicly calling on Russia to interfere with the elections. That it's actually Leftists who voted for Trump and the liberal corporate bootlickers are the good guys trying to fight the good fight and actually want change, and whatever other smooth brained takes you pulled out of your 'educated' ass.
Maybe take a look at why the AfD is gaining more and more support each election and try to figure out a way to put a stop to that bullshit before you find yourself in the exact same situation we are in or worse, and leave U.S. politics to people with the capacity for rational thought, that will help a lot more than your misinformation campaign on Lemmy.
Have the day you voted for!
Eat shit Adolf
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Pick a lane to acuse me of, you're all over the place. Do you think I like genocide or that I want to minimize it?
My point is very clear: people complaining about dems support of genocide while being silent about gop support (including "genocide Joe" chanters, 3rd party voters and non-voters), helped trump win and are responsible for the next 4 years of turbo genocide. Maybe even for some unpaid vacation in Iran.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I think you think the electorate likes genocide, or at least you said so, so I don't understand why you think accusing Joe of genocide would have lost an election.
If the American people really didn't want genocide they would elect candidates in primaries that were anti genocide (they didn't) or they would vote for the candidate who wanted to just maintain the genocide as it is instead of accelerating it (they didn't).
people complaining about dems support of genocide while being silent about gop support (including "genocide Joe" chanters, 3rd party voters and non-voters), helped trump win and are responsible for the next 4 years of turbo genocide
This isn't hard to figure out, but I guess my brain isn't broken by genocide apologia so I maybe I can't understand.
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would like Americans to elect smarter people. I’ll settle for less evil. Hell, at this point I’ll settle for competent.
As would the majority of Americans. You know what's not going to help with that? Ignorant ass jerk offs trying to put the meme into peoples heads that the fact that the DNC propped up a authoritarian pro-slavery pig was fine and good actually. That the fucking committee that literally runs the elections and admitted in Federal Court that they choose who the Dem candidate is going to be has no bearing on who wins the primaries. That billionaires and corporations have zero interest in politics and are good guys actually who don't put massive resources into controlling the narrative. That the Russians who we know for a fact are interfering with U.S. politics are just innocent bystanders, despite Trump publicly calling on Russia to interfere with the elections. That it's actually Leftists who voted for Trump and the liberal corporate bootlickers are the good guys trying to fight the good fight and actually want change, and whatever other smooth brained takes you pulled out of your 'educated' ass.
Maybe take a look at why the AfD is gaining more and more support each election and try to figure out a way to put a stop to that bullshit before you find yourself in the exact same situation we are in or worse, and leave U.S. politics to people with the capacity for rational thought, that will help a lot more than your misinformation campaign on Lemmy.
Have the day you voted for!
Eat shit Adolf
Nah, the majority of Americans chose trump (or staying at home). Of voters, 77 vs 75. I don't vote in German elections (because I'm not German), but the AfD being at 30% or Le Pen being at 33% is way preferable to being at 58% like trumps victory.
Keep blaming Russians, dems,consultants, billionaires, news and Soros, but trump was elected by the American public, so again, have the day you voted for!
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Nah, the majority of Americans chose trump (or staying at home). Of voters, 77 vs 75. I don't vote in German elections (because I'm not German), but the AfD being at 30% or Le Pen being at 33% is way preferable to being at 58% like trumps victory.
Keep blaming Russians, dems,consultants, billionaires, news and Soros, but trump was elected by the American public, so again, have the day you voted for!
Whatever you say Hans
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Was there a candidate that was against it? There were two options: genocide and turbo genocide. A vote "against it" (third party) is a vote that helped the winner.
There was a candidate against it. If you'd had paid attention at the time, you would have noticed that. Also, voting against something is actually the opposite of voting for it.
