They've got a point!
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I guess the idea is that if you're spending all your energy being anti-MAGA then you aren't focussing on the real struggle (class warfare). But of course one can focus on class warfare while still being anti-MAGA.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I absolutely agree. And, the shit part of it all? It's been going on for pretty much all of recorded history (class warfare, that is).
Edit: To clarify my position a little, I see choosing MAGA as willfully submitting to the parasitic "elites".
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Thanks to the commenter who reminded me that it's not bad to be reminded that the term is only a pejorative because conservative racists made it so.
Saying a person is woke is like saying they are not a mindless sheep going through life asleep at the wheel.
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Thanks to the commenter who reminded me that it's not bad to be reminded that the term is only a pejorative because conservative racists made it so.
So conservatives version of this is their deweaponization of the word nazi? Fuck this timeline.
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Saying a person is woke is like saying they are not a mindless sheep going through life asleep at the wheel.
But they call people on the left sheep? How can this be true? /s
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"Choosing to be neither" is choosing to be an ignorant twat but too afraid to own up to it.
This is how they view the entire non-hegemonic wprld. They admit it. -
Thanks to the commenter who reminded me that it's not bad to be reminded that the term is only a pejorative because conservative racists made it so.
I agree that wokeness is more enlightened than ignorance, but I also wonder how woke it is to scorn the less enlightened so hard.
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what are you saying? because it reads like you think nazis are anti-fascist which is WILDLY out of pocket so i'm sure you're trying to say something else, it's just not clear what
Who has historically defeated fascists?
I don't think that's a hard question to understand.
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It's just how linguistics works I guess.
La la la lava
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I agree that wokeness is more enlightened than ignorance, but I also wonder how woke it is to scorn the less enlightened so hard.
I'm sure someone is somewhere grappling with that.
Since the politicians they support and voted in are actively dismantling the government, erecting a dictatorship, and enacting policies guaranteed to get people needlessly killed I don't find myself burdened by such concerns.
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Who has historically defeated fascists?
I don't think that's a hard question to understand.
woke folk. but you're out here saying being woke is neither good nor bad. so… what are you saying?
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woke folk. but you're out here saying being woke is neither good nor bad. so… what are you saying?
when did woke folk bayt Nazis?
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when did woke folk bayt Nazis?
nazi germany doesn't get overthrown without resistance movements working tirelessly to fight for their rights back. french resistance, german resistance, italian anti-fascists, polish resistance, jewish resistance, and ukrainians who chose to liberate the concentration camps rather than make use of an opportunity to seek independence from moscow were all critical to allied victory in europe in 1945. and as is often the case in history, as soon as that was done, other oppressive forces such as stalin and the liberals of western europe sold out these freedom fighters installing a new world order of oppression. but we've continued working to get our liberation. you can discount our historical contributions all you want. it doesn't change the fact that the world only gets better when people who know the world is fucked work to get it unfucked.
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Thanks to the commenter who reminded me that it's not bad to be reminded that the term is only a pejorative because conservative racists made it so.
The opposite of being woke is being asleep and oblivious to what's going on. It's crazy people say they aren't woke and think that's like a good thing lol.
It's like saying "I'm a fucking idiot" and being smug about it
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nazi germany doesn't get overthrown without resistance movements working tirelessly to fight for their rights back. french resistance, german resistance, italian anti-fascists, polish resistance, jewish resistance, and ukrainians who chose to liberate the concentration camps rather than make use of an opportunity to seek independence from moscow were all critical to allied victory in europe in 1945. and as is often the case in history, as soon as that was done, other oppressive forces such as stalin and the liberals of western europe sold out these freedom fighters installing a new world order of oppression. but we've continued working to get our liberation. you can discount our historical contributions all you want. it doesn't change the fact that the world only gets better when people who know the world is fucked work to get it unfucked.
french resistance, german resistance, italian anti-fascists, polish resistance, jewish resistance, and ukrainians who....
Right. Groups totally unrelated to the 'woke' thingy people are talking about in this thread e.g. here and here
It's not like we're going to learn anything useful about leftism from the USA. They've done nothing but ratchet their country rightward for decades.
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I'm sure someone is somewhere grappling with that.
Since the politicians they support and voted in are actively dismantling the government, erecting a dictatorship, and enacting policies guaranteed to get people needlessly killed I don't find myself burdened by such concerns.
wrote last edited by [email protected]The point isn't to take sides with the sheep, it's about self-awareness. Recognizing that hating ignorant people is just a different form of ignorance. We're all burdened by or own ignorance even if we don't know it.
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There are people who have not called it Twatter from day one? Huh...
It's been Xitter (pronounced "Shitter") since the rebranding
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french resistance, german resistance, italian anti-fascists, polish resistance, jewish resistance, and ukrainians who....
Right. Groups totally unrelated to the 'woke' thingy people are talking about in this thread e.g. here and here
It's not like we're going to learn anything useful about leftism from the USA. They've done nothing but ratchet their country rightward for decades.
underpants weevil has the context for the word wrong and playing to that doesn't prove your point the way you think it does. woke, as a term, belongs to the Black community, one of the, on the whole, most left leaning demographics out there. the term comes from a group that has been saying for 300 years that oppression anywhere represents oppression everywhere. it's a anti-colonial, non-national term. people fighting oppression are woke. people fighting on behalf of oppressors are not woke. don't use a nation's government as proof there's no leftist thought going on there, that's some ignorant divisive thinking that will prevent you from building the kinds of coalition you need to fight oppression. it seems like all of this comes down to that you've accepted the conservative rebranding of woke rather than taking the time to understand what it really means and help us reconnotate in order to resist this fascist takeover of language. the powers that be have the power to redenotate words and create newspeak, but we have the power of connotation. don't give them what they want like what you're doing
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Thanks to the commenter who reminded me that it's not bad to be reminded that the term is only a pejorative because conservative racists made it so.
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It's been Xitter (pronounced "Shitter") since the rebranding
I will deadname that shit till the day I die! Or not, I honestly can't be bothered to give a flying fuck, truth be told ..
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The point isn't to take sides with the sheep, it's about self-awareness. Recognizing that hating ignorant people is just a different form of ignorance. We're all burdened by or own ignorance even if we don't know it.
I don't hate them for their ignorance. I would actually stop short of saying I hate them at all. But the deep disdain I feel for them is for the hellscape they have dragged all of us into, and which will take decades to fix, if we fix it at all.
So yeah, I'm probably burdened by being ignorant of how that makes me just as bad as they are.
Considering I'll die of old age still being harmed by what they have empowered and are currently cheering for, and will also die knowing my kids' lives and the lives of everyone I care about will be worse because of it, I'm ok with that.
