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  • J [email protected]

    It did help me make a basic script and add it to task scheduler so it runs and fixes my broken WiFi card so I don't have to manually do it. (or better said, helped me avoid asking arrogant people that feel smug when I tell them I haven't opened a command prompt in ten years)

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    Yeah it definitely has its uses. OP wasn't saying it's never useful, I think you may have missed the forest for the trees.

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      It's more about them feeding it into an LLM which then decides to incorporate it in an answer to some random person.

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      Yeah but LLMs don't train off of data automatically, you need a separate dedicated process for that, it won't happen from just using them. In that sense, companies can still use your data to train them in the background, even if you aren't directly using an LLM, or they can not train them even when you are using them. I guess in the latter case there is a bigger incentive for them to train them than otherwise, but to me it seems basically the same thing privacy wise.

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        We already have the GPUs, they use a few hundred watts sporadically, definitely less than gaming. They use no water, they are air cooled and we drink more coffee than water ourselves. Do you just copy paste blindly arguments form the internet or do you ever stop and think from time to time?

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        And suddenly we’re talking about locally hosted models I guess? You’re just contorting your argument and cherry picking the single part of the deeply problematic technology you could possibly defend. It’s disingenuous and you’re just poorly covering it up with condescension.

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          Luckily no one is pushing me to use Ai in any form at this time.

          For folks in your position, I fear that they will first go through a round of layoffs to get rid of the people who are clearly using it "wrong" because Top Management can't have made a mistake before they pivot and drop it.

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          Yeah that is a risk, then again if they're forcing their employees to use AI they're probably not far off firing everyone anyway so I don't see that it makes a huge amount of difference for my position.

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            I feel this

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            Yeah. But then being a vertibrate is always lonely and kinda rough.

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              Not just you. Ai is making people dumber. I am frequently correcting the mistakes of my colleagues that use.

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              When i was a kid and firat realized i was maybe a genius, it was terrifying. That there weren't always gonna just be people smarter than me who could fix it.

              Seeing them get dumber is like some horror movie shit.

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                simpsons newspaper story: old man yells at cloud

                Meanwhile, we have people making the web worse by not linking to source & giving us images of text instead of proper, accessible, searchable, failure tolerant text.

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                Meanwhile, we have people making the web worse by not linking to source & giving us images of text instead of proper, accessible, searchable, failure tolerant text.

                - OpenAI Text Crawler

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                  I hate LLMs for everything except summing up those endless Genshin quest dialogues. I want to know roughly what the quest is about, but not going to read/listen to hours of extremely dry and stilted thesaurus-wanking. But I'd never use it for anything where I actually care about the accuracy of the output.

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                    you asked for thoughts about your character backstory and i put it into chat gpt for ideas

                    If I want ideas from ChatGPT, I could just ask it myself. Usually, if I'm reaching out to ask people's opinions, I want, you know, their opinions. I don't even care if I hear nothing back from them for ages, I just want their input.

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                      Yeah it definitely has its uses. OP wasn't saying it's never useful, I think you may have missed the forest for the trees.

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                      uhm no I'm pretty sure op wouldn't approve judging by the:

                      "but you can-" I'm gonna lose it

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                        Reminder that these people existed when the radio was invented.

                        You can't put everything back in Pandoras box but amid all the negative you latch on to there's a sliver of positivity and we have to protect that.

                        Anyone who is anti-AI, I get it. You need to understand there's no going back. We can help control the path forward.

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                          I do agree with them that stealing may not be the right word, isn't plagiarism more accurate? But plagiarism is generally considered theft so it probably doesn't matter. I just found it really interesting that I personally haven't really given much thought to the semantics of theft when no physical object is involved even though it's been discussed for like centuries atp

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                          Plagiarism isn't correct either. For something to be plagiarism it needs to be both copied exactly as well as intentionally lying about the authorship (i.e. you claim you wrote something that you didn't).

                          The output of Large Language Models similar in some ways to plagiarism—when someone claims they wrote something that was actually just the output of an LLM. However, that really isn't the same thing because an LLM isn't a legal entity that's capable of owning anything.

                          LLMs are also just a tool. An advanced tool that can generate all sorts of texts and software but they still require a human to tell them what to do.

                          If some human asks ChatGPT to write something in the style of Stephen King what even is that? That's not against the law (you can't copyright a writing style). It's basically, "not a thing." Is that even a bad thing? I honestly don't think so because of I put myself in those same shoes: "write a comment in the style of Riskable" all I can do is 🤷. It's of no consequence.

                          I'd also argue that it's of no consequence to authors either. What impact does it have on them? None. It doesn't effect their book/whatever sales. It doesn't hurt the market for their works—if anything, it makes the market for their works greater because their works won't be total shit like the output of some LLM (LOL).

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                            When i was a kid and firat realized i was maybe a genius, it was terrifying. That there weren't always gonna just be people smarter than me who could fix it.

                            Seeing them get dumber is like some horror movie shit.

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                            I don't fancy myself a genius but the way other people navigate things seems to create a strangely compelling case on its own

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                              My boss had GPT make this informational poster thing for work. Its supposed to explain stuff to customers and is rampant with spelling errors and garbled text. I pointed it out to the boss and she said it was good enough for people to read. My eye twitches every time I see it.

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                              good enough for people to read

                              wow, what a standard, super professional look for your customers!

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                                Meanwhile, we have people making the web worse by not linking to source & giving us images of text instead of proper, accessible, searchable, failure tolerant text.

                                - OpenAI Text Crawler

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                                You don't think the disabled use technology?
                                Or that search engine optimization existed before LLMs?
                                Or that text sticks around when images break?

                                Lack of accessibility wouldn't stop LLMs: it could probably process images into text the hard way & waste more energy in the process.
                                That'd be great, right?

                                1. A hyphen isn't a quotation dash.

                                2. Are we playing the AI game? Let’s pretend we’re AI.
                                  Here's some fun punctuation: ‒−–—―…:

                                  Beep bip boop.

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                                  No line breaks and capitalization? Can somebody ask AI to format it properly, please?

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                                  • whoisearth@lemmy.caW [email protected]

                                    Reminder that these people existed when the radio was invented.

                                    You can't put everything back in Pandoras box but amid all the negative you latch on to there's a sliver of positivity and we have to protect that.

                                    Anyone who is anti-AI, I get it. You need to understand there's no going back. We can help control the path forward.

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                                    I think the big difference is the first public radio broadcast was in 1906, regulation started to follow in 1910. Even today you need a license to use the technology.

                                    Machine learning (or ai) has been around for over half a century. Now that it's more abundant in every day life they're trying to pass laws that prohibit regulations of ai.

                                    An argument could probably be made with automobiles, but again those early adopters were heavily regulated.

                                    “The Locomotive Act of 1865,” better known as the “Red Flag Act.” While not technically a ban, it stipulated that, when being operated on public roads, “at least three persons are to be employed to drive or conduct a locomotive” and that one of those people must walk ahead of the vehicle waving a red flag to warn others on the road and to signal the driver when to stop. It also set the top speed on highways to 4mph, and through towns to 2mph. (link)

                                    We can learn from the past, but I don't think we can directly apply or simply hand-wave the fears like it's a previous technology.

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                                      I think the big difference is the first public radio broadcast was in 1906, regulation started to follow in 1910. Even today you need a license to use the technology.

                                      Machine learning (or ai) has been around for over half a century. Now that it's more abundant in every day life they're trying to pass laws that prohibit regulations of ai.

                                      An argument could probably be made with automobiles, but again those early adopters were heavily regulated.

                                      “The Locomotive Act of 1865,” better known as the “Red Flag Act.” While not technically a ban, it stipulated that, when being operated on public roads, “at least three persons are to be employed to drive or conduct a locomotive” and that one of those people must walk ahead of the vehicle waving a red flag to warn others on the road and to signal the driver when to stop. It also set the top speed on highways to 4mph, and through towns to 2mph. (link)

                                      We can learn from the past, but I don't think we can directly apply or simply hand-wave the fears like it's a previous technology.

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                                      See and now it's a productive discussion on the path forward instead of whinging about a new technology.

                                      I can only hope regulation can come its long overdue with a lot of the technology we use it will be interesting to see what will be the impudence to move it forward.

                                      To be clear I'm not disagreeing with anything you've said.

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                                        What if the point of AI is to have it create a personal model for each of us, using the vast amounts of our data they have access to, in order to manipulate us into buying and doing whatever the people who own it want but they can't just come out and say that?

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                                        I'm sure that's at least part of the idea but I'm yet to see any evidence that it won't also be dog shit at that. It doesn't have the context window or foresight to conceive of a decent plot twist in a piece of fiction despite having access to every piece of fiction ever written. I'm not buying that it would be able to build a psychological model and contextualize 40 plus years of lived experience in a way that could get me to buy a $20 Dubai chocolate bar or drive a Chevy.

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                                          No line breaks and capitalization? Can somebody ask AI to format it properly, please?

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                                          being anti-AI is making me feel like I'm going insane. "You asked for thoughts about your character’s backstory and I put it into ChatGPT for ideas." Studies have proven it’s making people dumber. "I asked AI to generate this meal plan." It’s causing water shortages where its data centers are built. "I’ll generate some pictures for the DnD campaign." It’s spreading misinformation. "Meta, generate an image of this guy doing something stupid." It’s trained off stolen images, writing, video, audio. "I was talking with my Snapchat AI." There’s no way to verify what it’s doing with the information it collects. "YouTube is implementing AI-based age verification." My work has an entire graphics media department and has still put AI-generated motivational posters up everywhere. AI playlists. AI facial verification. Google AI. Microsoft AI. Meta AI. Snapchat AI.

                                          Everyone treats it as a novelty. Everyone treats it as a mandatory part of life. Am I the only one who sees it? Am I paranoid? Am I going insane? Jesus fucking Christ.

                                          If I have to hear one more "Well at least—", "But it does—", "But you can—" I’m about to lose it.

                                          I shouldn’t have to jump through hoops to avoid the evil machine. Have you no principles? No goddamn spine? Am I the weird one here?

                                          Still shoddy.

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