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Mexican President Threatens to Sue Google Over 'Gulf of America' Label on Maps.

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  • C [email protected]

    Why bother with this? If you want to make a point, pass regulation in Mexico to call E.E.U.U. (US in Mexico) be called Northern Mexico. Then Google is forced to comply on that territory like they claim they do for disputed sections when maps are viewed from that region. It would make for some funny reactions from people visiting Cancun or Puerto Vallarta.

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    If we’re going to play that demagogic game, why not make “United States of America” be shown as “United States of North America” to reclaim the continent name back? Companies will comply if it’s an official request.

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      I can see Google (and Apple) quietly paying this fine and changing it for Mexico (and any other jurisdiction that asks).

      This is stupid and cowardly of them, but that aside, the implication is 100% “comply, or the US government will make life difficult for Google.” I can see how they’re stuck between a rock and a hard place.

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      The new name shows only for USA. In Mexico it’s unchanged, or shown with both names.

      Our president is dumb and just wants to look like she’s fighting back.

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        Where will the lawsuit be filed in?

        Mexican courts? Good luck getting an American company to comply.

        US Courts, well... surely no judge would be biased right? glances at the composition of the US Supreme court

        International Courts? Lol like they have any power at all.

        Reminds me of The Expanse:

        "Earth Court? Mars Court? What Inner court gives Belters justice?"

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        • I [email protected]

          Where will the lawsuit be filed in?

          Mexican courts? Good luck getting an American company to comply.

          US Courts, well... surely no judge would be biased right? glances at the composition of the US Supreme court

          International Courts? Lol like they have any power at all.

          Reminds me of The Expanse:

          "Earth Court? Mars Court? What Inner court gives Belters justice?"

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          First, what laws are violated? Doubt international law touches this, US law maybe?

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          • I [email protected]

            Where will the lawsuit be filed in?

            Mexican courts? Good luck getting an American company to comply.

            US Courts, well... surely no judge would be biased right? glances at the composition of the US Supreme court

            International Courts? Lol like they have any power at all.

            Reminds me of The Expanse:

            "Earth Court? Mars Court? What Inner court gives Belters justice?"

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            Mexican courts? Good luck getting an American company to comply.

            Why not? Brazilian courts ordered Twitter to ban some people, Twitter refused, court treated to jail Brazilian Twitter legal representatives, Twitter closed their Brazilian office to shield itself from Brazilian courts, Brazilian courts ordered ISPs to block Twitter because they had no legal representatives on the country, after a couple of weeks without Brazilian access Twitter bow down, rehired their legal representatives and complied with Brazilian court orders.

            Don't see why Mexican courts couldn't do the same with Google Maps.

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            • C [email protected]

              Everyone needs to get used to ignoring this bullshit. The Gulf of America thing isn't important. It doesn't effect anyone, and there's far too many posts about it when there are real things to pay attention to. This is purely a distraction. Stop giving it attention.

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              Out with the oldspeak. In with the newspeak.

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                Mexican courts? Good luck getting an American company to comply.

                Why not? Brazilian courts ordered Twitter to ban some people, Twitter refused, court treated to jail Brazilian Twitter legal representatives, Twitter closed their Brazilian office to shield itself from Brazilian courts, Brazilian courts ordered ISPs to block Twitter because they had no legal representatives on the country, after a couple of weeks without Brazilian access Twitter bow down, rehired their legal representatives and complied with Brazilian court orders.

                Don't see why Mexican courts couldn't do the same with Google Maps.

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                By "comply", I mean like getting them to revert the map rename. Kicking them out and blocking them isn't really getting them to "comply"

                By contrast, if the US government wanted Google to do something, they could storm their headquarters and get the government tech people to go in the servers and change it.

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                  So why did google change it in Canada, then?

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                  • C [email protected]

                    Why bother with this? If you want to make a point, pass regulation in Mexico to call E.E.U.U. (US in Mexico) be called Northern Mexico. Then Google is forced to comply on that territory like they claim they do for disputed sections when maps are viewed from that region. It would make for some funny reactions from people visiting Cancun or Puerto Vallarta.

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                    Currently in Mexico, it displays the name your phone region is set to. It still shows Gulf of America on my phone, even when I am on Mexican WiFi.

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                      Where will the lawsuit be filed in?

                      Mexican courts? Good luck getting an American company to comply.

                      US Courts, well... surely no judge would be biased right? glances at the composition of the US Supreme court

                      International Courts? Lol like they have any power at all.

                      Reminds me of The Expanse:

                      "Earth Court? Mars Court? What Inner court gives Belters justice?"

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                      In order to do business in Mexico, they must agree to Mexican laws.

                      In order to do business in Canada, they must follow Canadian laws.

                      In order to do business in the US, they must follow US laws kiss the ring.

                      This isn't the first time big tech has had to tackle something like this. Usually it's with disputed territory. In that case, each region gets to see what it demands to see, while presenting something different to the rest of the world.

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                        Putin and Trump are best friends so you might expect Russia to follow. But perhaps Putin wants to show he's the dominant one in said relationship.

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                        That's kind of what I'm thinking

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                          I can see Google (and Apple) quietly paying this fine and changing it for Mexico (and any other jurisdiction that asks).

                          This is stupid and cowardly of them, but that aside, the implication is 100% “comply, or the US government will make life difficult for Google.” I can see how they’re stuck between a rock and a hard place.

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                          I legitimately don't understand why the U.S. isn't the only locality where it shows up as "Gulf of America".

                          Set the en-US string to "Gulf of America". Leave literally every other region's text string untouched from what it was 6 months ago.

                          When the next Democrat U.S. President gets sworn in and immediately Executive Orders it back to "Gulf of Mexico", change the en-US string back to that.

                          This is all so stupid and melodramatic.

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                            TIL…

                            The abbreviation E.E.U.U. (often written as EE. UU.) stands for Estados Unidos (United States) in Spanish. This abbreviation follows a grammatical rule in Spanish where doubling the initial letters of each word indicates plurality

                            So you taught me something today I did not know. Thank you!!

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                            I always wondered why it had double letters. Thank you!

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                            • C [email protected]

                              Everyone needs to get used to ignoring this bullshit. The Gulf of America thing isn't important. It doesn't effect anyone, and there's far too many posts about it when there are real things to pay attention to. This is purely a distraction. Stop giving it attention.

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                              It's definitely a distraction tactic, but at the very least looking at Google Maps and Bing Maps makes very clear to people which megacorps are riding the oligarchy; just in case anyone held hope their favorite "techbro revolutionary" might side with them.
                              PS: Mapquest gets it right.

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                                By "comply", I mean like getting them to revert the map rename. Kicking them out and blocking them isn't really getting them to "comply"

                                By contrast, if the US government wanted Google to do something, they could storm their headquarters and get the government tech people to go in the servers and change it.

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                                Mexico is a big country, Google has shareholders who demand line goes up, people use maps to advertise ("map pack" "local SEO" and brand tie-ins)...

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                                  So why did google change it in Canada, then?

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                                  Because Canada recently became the 51st state?

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                                    Mexico is a big country, Google has shareholders who demand line goes up, people use maps to advertise ("map pack" "local SEO" and brand tie-ins)...

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                                    yeah, we'd start using their spineless nature for good tbh

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                                      TIL…

                                      The abbreviation E.E.U.U. (often written as EE. UU.) stands for Estados Unidos (United States) in Spanish. This abbreviation follows a grammatical rule in Spanish where doubling the initial letters of each word indicates plurality

                                      So you taught me something today I did not know. Thank you!!

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                                      Just let our mexican and Canadian neighbors take over the USA. We've proven to be unworthy of making wise choices.

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                                        Because Canada recently became the 51st state?

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                                        Americans wish!

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                                          Americans wish!

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                                          Real Americans Want To Be Canadian

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