Hashtags do not replace groups.
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As an instance owner and moderator: that’s a horrible way to look at things. Just throwing the onus onto someone else is irresponsible.
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Mastodon is terrible for topical discussions because people don’t use groups. But they can if they knew how to use them.
Now you may say the system was not designed for cross-pollination, but the fundamental system is not Mastodon, and it’s not Lemmy: it’s ActivityPub.
Now do all these apps implement ActivityPub imperfectly? Yes. But eventually, some app will get it right—ideally one that will let you choose your preferred UI/UX on the fly.
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I have heard of the opposite. Mastodon users can see and comment on lemmy posts, but i have yet to discover how to view mastodon post from lemmy.
If it is indeed possible can you or anyone elaborate how to?
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That would be cool. Might be useful.
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The mastadon user posting the thing needs to tag the Lemmy community in their post and then it will show up like any other post on Lemmy. You wouldn't even know it's from Mastodon unless they said so in the post.
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You're not the first to suggest it, but I still haven't seen anyone do more than linking one from the other. This feels as inconsequential as posting a Twitter screenshot on Reddit. Is there a deeper integration possible?
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I saw this discussion on Lemmy, searched for it with my Mastodon client and, wow, it works! (I guess, we'll see after I hit SEND)
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Not only is it possible, there’s lots of Fediverse software that’s just designed to be a “dumb server” akin to Nginx. For example, appy:
Now the reason this stuff hasn’t caught fire yet is because we’re just now moving away from “Fediverse = Mastodon”. So the idea of federation itself isn’t just a paradigm shift, it’s a complete system shock that disrupts our mental models for how social media is supposed to work.
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Is deeper integration possible? Sure, check out how I use !lumoura@piefed with my Akkoma account.
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I guess it’s cool that you can if you want, but if I’m searching Mastodon I want content on Mastodon, not Lemmy and vice versa.
I still don’t see the point.
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Can you be more specific? I don’t see anything.
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That's entirely dependent on the interface switching, or some kind of universal interface. That's the part I have serous doubts about. Keep in mind you have to make a single interface that work better than all the others on their respective native systems. I'm not sure that's possible.
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Sure, here’s the URL:
https://piefed.social/c/lumoura
Also, you might want to look at getting a better Lemmy client.
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You don’t need to make a single interface, just a “meta-interface” that allows you to switch UIs on the fly.
That’s entirely doable within a client.
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I’m an instance owner too (see my atomicpoet.org and akkomane.social). Speaking as an instance owner, it’s our fundamental job to moderate.
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Isn’t that just a Piefed photo stream?
I still don’t see any cross-app integration except simple linking.
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Nope, not a Piefed photo stream. All those photos (so far) originate either from Akkoma and Pixelfed.
It looks “just” like a Piefed photo stream because I’m sending photos there.
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Someone on Mastadon could reply to a comment here directly from there and you may not notice unless you look at their instance.
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You have misread their comment and understood it backwards. AP's saying people on Mastodon are engaging in Lemmy discussions.
There is no way to follow Mastodon users from Lemmy. Lemmy simply does not work that way.
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You can usually tell it's from Mastodon because it's got a couple dozen hashtags scattered throughout the post and a dozen more users and communities tagged.
