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Is Canada joining the EU? Brussels hails ‘like-minded partners’ amid trade war with US

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  • D [email protected]

    Sounds good to me.

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    "Wait, it's all the European Union?"

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    • aleq@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

      I can't imagine it and my gut feeling is that it's a terrible idea for the same reason as having the US be our military was a terrible idea. Geolocation matters, and Canadas location means it has interests that are fundamentally different from the EU. A major thing is that it doesn't have Russia breathing down its neck.

      It also feels like a slippery slope where we'll eventually have Mexico and, god forbid, the US joining as well. Then suddenly the will of European countries is overshadowed by these North American giants.

      That said, Canada is cool and joining forces against the US is good.

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      We're only one border removed via Alaska (which might as well be Russia if things keep going this way). And with the arctic ice melting, Russian warships & subs could directly threaten our north and west coasts.

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      • hubi@feddit.orgH [email protected]

        Canada and the EU already have a trade agreement in place since 2017:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Economic_and_Trade_Agreement

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        I believe that it has been violated recently, so is no longer strictly valid.

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        • aleq@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

          I can't imagine it and my gut feeling is that it's a terrible idea for the same reason as having the US be our military was a terrible idea. Geolocation matters, and Canadas location means it has interests that are fundamentally different from the EU. A major thing is that it doesn't have Russia breathing down its neck.

          It also feels like a slippery slope where we'll eventually have Mexico and, god forbid, the US joining as well. Then suddenly the will of European countries is overshadowed by these North American giants.

          That said, Canada is cool and joining forces against the US is good.

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          If you are trying to say that Canada doesn't have Russia breathing down its neck, then you are wrong. Tensions over the Arctic have been high for years.

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          • C [email protected]

            Interest in Canada joining the EU has increased amid US tensions, with 44% of Canadians supporting the idea. While the EU acknowledges shared values, Canada's geographic distance and historical precedent present challenges for membership.

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            I think full membership is very unlikely, but maybe Canada can join the EU Customs Union or even the Schengen Area at some point in the future.

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            • aleq@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

              I can't imagine it and my gut feeling is that it's a terrible idea for the same reason as having the US be our military was a terrible idea. Geolocation matters, and Canadas location means it has interests that are fundamentally different from the EU. A major thing is that it doesn't have Russia breathing down its neck.

              It also feels like a slippery slope where we'll eventually have Mexico and, god forbid, the US joining as well. Then suddenly the will of European countries is overshadowed by these North American giants.

              That said, Canada is cool and joining forces against the US is good.

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              Canada isn't really a giant in any sense of the word. I mean it is one of the world's top economies, but so are Britain, France and Germany. Mexico is economically even smaller. The US should absolutely not be allowed to join, though, yeah.

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              • C [email protected]

                Even then, Canada and Europe share a common border; the Atlantic Ocean.

                • land border with Denmark
                • sea border with France.

                If the UK can join the EU, then Canada can join the EU.

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                Saint Pierre and Miquelon is right off the coast of Newfoundland.

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                • C [email protected]

                  Interest in Canada joining the EU has increased amid US tensions, with 44% of Canadians supporting the idea. While the EU acknowledges shared values, Canada's geographic distance and historical precedent present challenges for membership.

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                  Holy fuck, yes!!

                  Canada, come join us!

                  And Greenland should get to be a sovereign state as part of the EU as well - if they want to

                  That would be just fucking awesome all around! :⁠-⁠D

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                    Even then, Canada and Europe share a common border; the Atlantic Ocean.

                    • land border with Denmark
                    • sea border with France.

                    If the UK can join the EU, then Canada can join the EU.

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                    #30

                    I mean the UK is geographically European no matter how much a certain segment of the population likes to think otherwise.

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                    • aleq@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                      I can't imagine it and my gut feeling is that it's a terrible idea for the same reason as having the US be our military was a terrible idea. Geolocation matters, and Canadas location means it has interests that are fundamentally different from the EU. A major thing is that it doesn't have Russia breathing down its neck.

                      It also feels like a slippery slope where we'll eventually have Mexico and, god forbid, the US joining as well. Then suddenly the will of European countries is overshadowed by these North American giants.

                      That said, Canada is cool and joining forces against the US is good.

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                      We could just start a new european union and replace the UN with the old EU.

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                      • D [email protected]

                        Can’t we use our close proximity to Saint Pierre and Miquelon as a foot in the door?

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                        Saint-Pierre-et-Miquelon is not part of the EU.

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                        • naeap@sopuli.xyzN [email protected]

                          Holy fuck, yes!!

                          Canada, come join us!

                          And Greenland should get to be a sovereign state as part of the EU as well - if they want to

                          That would be just fucking awesome all around! :⁠-⁠D

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                          Well, Greenland was an EU member, but they left. Can't remember when, but it was before brexit, so the UK wasn't the only, or even the first, to leave. Possibly the last though, as the appetite for leaving seems to have dropped significantly.

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                            Interest in Canada joining the EU has increased amid US tensions, with 44% of Canadians supporting the idea. While the EU acknowledges shared values, Canada's geographic distance and historical precedent present challenges for membership.

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                            Not sure if that could work. It's also a question about culture and values.
                            And sorry to say this dear Canadians: You are at least partly americanized.

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                            • C [email protected]

                              Even then, Canada and Europe share a common border; the Atlantic Ocean.

                              • land border with Denmark
                              • sea border with France.

                              If the UK can join the EU, then Canada can join the EU.

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                              Also sea border with Ireland

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                              • C [email protected]

                                Well, Greenland was an EU member, but they left. Can't remember when, but it was before brexit, so the UK wasn't the only, or even the first, to leave. Possibly the last though, as the appetite for leaving seems to have dropped significantly.

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                                As the current world situation looks very different, I think the EU is a much more attractive option - at least I hope so

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                                • H [email protected]

                                  If someone had told me ten years ago that in 2025 the UK would have long left the EU and we were talking about a membership of Canada, I would have declared them bewildered. LOL.

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                                  I think the UK will have to rejoin now. We're too vulnerable.

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                                  • krik@lemmy.dbzer0.comK [email protected]

                                    Not sure if that could work. It's also a question about culture and values.
                                    And sorry to say this dear Canadians: You are at least partly americanized.

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                                    Please elaborate

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                                    • J [email protected]

                                      I believe that it has been violated recently, so is no longer strictly valid.

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                                      Violated?

                                      As far as I understand, the vast majority of the agreement is already fully in effect, with a few loose ends still tied up in EU member states' legislatures.

                                      Canadian businesses have just never really had a good reason to take advantage of the new trade rules until recently. Canadians might start noticing an increase in EU products range and availability over the next while.

                                      Technically, it is not a done deal, but practically speaking, it is. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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                                      • aleq@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                        I can't imagine it and my gut feeling is that it's a terrible idea for the same reason as having the US be our military was a terrible idea. Geolocation matters, and Canadas location means it has interests that are fundamentally different from the EU. A major thing is that it doesn't have Russia breathing down its neck.

                                        It also feels like a slippery slope where we'll eventually have Mexico and, god forbid, the US joining as well. Then suddenly the will of European countries is overshadowed by these North American giants.

                                        That said, Canada is cool and joining forces against the US is good.

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                                        Canada very much has Russia breathing down its neck.

                                        Look at a globe focused on the North Pole, and you will see that Russia, Canada, and Scandanavia all basically form a ring framing the Arctic ocean. Russia asserting itself in the Arctic is a major issue for us, and the situation could very well deteriorate as climate change intensifies.

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                                        • cygnus@lemmy.caC [email protected]

                                          Can't wait for Brazil to join the EU on that basis.

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                                          Aren't some parts of Outre-Mer France part of the EU, despite being located in the Carribean and South America?

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