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LibreOffice downloads on the rise as users look to avoid subscription costs | The free open-source Microsoft Office alternative is being downloaded by nearly 1 million users a week

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  • N [email protected]

    Excel is maybe the one place I can see AI being useful because lots of people can describe what they want a spreadsheet to do but not actually do it.

    I just wouldn't trust it to do it right

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    Exactly.

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      I can just imaging an AI tool going in the messing one little thing up, and it being near impossible to find the error.

      It doesn't put formulas into the cells. It will write the formula for you, but you have to put it in yourself.

      Also, there's versioning in Office, so your spreadsheet blowing up for whatever reason isn't a problem at all - just roll back to the previous version of the file.

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      I just find it better, to do a little research on formulas, and figuring it out yourself. You'll become better at spreadsheets. I'd have to try it though, it would depend on the actual implementation of it.

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      • veniasilente@lemm.eeV [email protected]

        Why would you do that to yourself???

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        I like the austere layout

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        • N [email protected]

          Excel is maybe the one place I can see AI being useful because lots of people can describe what they want a spreadsheet to do but not actually do it.

          I just wouldn't trust it to do it right

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          Which means you have to check each and every formula and we all now how difficult it is to read and understand excel formulas we didn't write ourselves....

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            I’ve used Libre Office, but unpopular opinion, the formatting sucks. I just pirated word, never paying for that again

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            Sometimes proprietary software is still better than free or open-source software in several ways.

            Other times, it's the other way around, and in some cases, they're similar, but everyone chooses based on their convenience and needs.

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            • P [email protected]

              I really like LibreOffice but I still need Excel. It’s a good 20 years ahead of the OSS software. It works find if your doing light work though

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              That's the problem: if you want greater adoption, you must cover the needs of accountants, because Excel knows perfectly well that they are the fixed source of income for companies.

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              • F [email protected]

                Interest in LibreOffice, the open-source alternative to Microsoft Office, is on the rise, with weekly downloads of its software package close to 1 million a week. That’s the highest download number since 2023.

                “We estimate around 200 million [LibreOffice] users, but it’s important to note that we respect users’ privacy and don’t track them, so we can’t say for sure,” said Mike Saunders, an open-source advocate and a deputy to the board of directors at The Document Foundation.

                LibreOffice users typically want a straightforward interface, Saunders said. “They don’t want subscriptions, and they don’t want AI being ‘helpful’ by poking its nose into their work — it reminds them of Clippy from the bad old days,” he said.

                There are genuine use cases for generative AI tools, but many users prefer to opt-in to it and choose when and where to enable it. “We have zero plans to put AI into LibreOffice. But we understand the value of some AI tools and are encouraging developers to create … extensions that use AI in a responsible way,” Saunders said.

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                Microsoft is going to make the S, E, A, R, and . characters subscription only for $1.99 / month.

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                • G [email protected]

                  You're looking for enemies where there are none. I'm not a medical professional, but I assume this amount of paranoia is not good for your mental health and well-being. Just take the article for what it is: a win for free software

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                  Sure, it is a win. And thank you for the wise words.

                  But to me it seems that many are looking to reduce dependency on US tech.

                  Unfortunately, world is such state that a little paranoia is warranted. If Snowden was not a wakeup call, now I finally feel there is a real movement to try to reduce the dependency. Keep in mind that the US currently threatens EU with occupation of Greenland and sides with our enemy.

                  But all that said, thank you again, kind stranger.

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                    Interest in LibreOffice, the open-source alternative to Microsoft Office, is on the rise, with weekly downloads of its software package close to 1 million a week. That’s the highest download number since 2023.

                    “We estimate around 200 million [LibreOffice] users, but it’s important to note that we respect users’ privacy and don’t track them, so we can’t say for sure,” said Mike Saunders, an open-source advocate and a deputy to the board of directors at The Document Foundation.

                    LibreOffice users typically want a straightforward interface, Saunders said. “They don’t want subscriptions, and they don’t want AI being ‘helpful’ by poking its nose into their work — it reminds them of Clippy from the bad old days,” he said.

                    There are genuine use cases for generative AI tools, but many users prefer to opt-in to it and choose when and where to enable it. “We have zero plans to put AI into LibreOffice. But we understand the value of some AI tools and are encouraging developers to create … extensions that use AI in a responsible way,” Saunders said.

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                    My biggest pet peeve is since it's a suite rather than separate programs, there's only one path for saving files that's saved. So you can't have Writer save to a different location from Calc automatically.

                    As someone with a lot of files and folders, and a hatred of having to click around too much, this annoys the shit out of me. But I don't think there's any way around it because of how the program was created. It's literally the one thing keeping me from switching.

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                      Microsoft is going to make the S, E, A, R, and . characters subscription only for $1.99 / month.

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                      So we'll have to go to libre office to spell arse?

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                        Interest in LibreOffice, the open-source alternative to Microsoft Office, is on the rise, with weekly downloads of its software package close to 1 million a week. That’s the highest download number since 2023.

                        “We estimate around 200 million [LibreOffice] users, but it’s important to note that we respect users’ privacy and don’t track them, so we can’t say for sure,” said Mike Saunders, an open-source advocate and a deputy to the board of directors at The Document Foundation.

                        LibreOffice users typically want a straightforward interface, Saunders said. “They don’t want subscriptions, and they don’t want AI being ‘helpful’ by poking its nose into their work — it reminds them of Clippy from the bad old days,” he said.

                        There are genuine use cases for generative AI tools, but many users prefer to opt-in to it and choose when and where to enable it. “We have zero plans to put AI into LibreOffice. But we understand the value of some AI tools and are encouraging developers to create … extensions that use AI in a responsible way,” Saunders said.

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                        Hopefully more of us make donations. Free is good, but it's nice to contribute even small amounts to your well used FOSS apps

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                        • obi@sopuli.xyzO [email protected]

                          So we'll have to go to libre office to spell arse?

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                          Correct, you can call Microsoft arse and any variant thereof for free on LibreOffice.

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                            My biggest pet peeve is since it's a suite rather than separate programs, there's only one path for saving files that's saved. So you can't have Writer save to a different location from Calc automatically.

                            As someone with a lot of files and folders, and a hatred of having to click around too much, this annoys the shit out of me. But I don't think there's any way around it because of how the program was created. It's literally the one thing keeping me from switching.

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                            Do you pin favorites? If you don't, maybe that could help

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                              I just find it better, to do a little research on formulas, and figuring it out yourself. You'll become better at spreadsheets. I'd have to try it though, it would depend on the actual implementation of it.

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                              You’ll become better at spreadsheets

                              Great! Thing is: a day only has 24 hours and right now I need to get better at managing IT infrastructure and business processes, not spreadshets.

                              If you have the time to research Excel - go for it! Absolutely nobody is forcing you to use Copilot.

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                              • F [email protected]

                                Interest in LibreOffice, the open-source alternative to Microsoft Office, is on the rise, with weekly downloads of its software package close to 1 million a week. That’s the highest download number since 2023.

                                “We estimate around 200 million [LibreOffice] users, but it’s important to note that we respect users’ privacy and don’t track them, so we can’t say for sure,” said Mike Saunders, an open-source advocate and a deputy to the board of directors at The Document Foundation.

                                LibreOffice users typically want a straightforward interface, Saunders said. “They don’t want subscriptions, and they don’t want AI being ‘helpful’ by poking its nose into their work — it reminds them of Clippy from the bad old days,” he said.

                                There are genuine use cases for generative AI tools, but many users prefer to opt-in to it and choose when and where to enable it. “We have zero plans to put AI into LibreOffice. But we understand the value of some AI tools and are encouraging developers to create … extensions that use AI in a responsible way,” Saunders said.

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                                LibreCalc and python for the win! I just love from bs4 import BeautifulSoup, import json, import re, import urllib.request.

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                                • O [email protected]

                                  My friend, FOSS has been readily available for more than a decade. Whether it's LibreOffice or the GIMP or VLC or whatever, these are very old pieces of software.

                                  It's not taking off now. It already did. But now you personally are noticing. 🙂

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                                  Well, I've been using this software forever, I'm saying now, normal folks, I see in the light.

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                                  • S [email protected]

                                    Give Linux a whole, separate drive and then there's no concern about Windows doing anything.

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                                    Yeah is that completely safe? I'm really tempted to try out Mint and I have an old M2 from my previous machine I could format and use for it. The PC is my work/editing station though so can't afford any risk. I can't really make the switch since I'm still dependent on LR+PS (Adobe...) but most of my other software should work, and I've just always wanted to get into Linux but not sure if it'll actually benefit me and my work or if it's just gonna cause me even more hassle than windows currently does.

                                    I'm familiar with messing around in the BIOS, changing boot priority and formatting stuff and whatnot.

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                                      Interest in LibreOffice, the open-source alternative to Microsoft Office, is on the rise, with weekly downloads of its software package close to 1 million a week. That’s the highest download number since 2023.

                                      “We estimate around 200 million [LibreOffice] users, but it’s important to note that we respect users’ privacy and don’t track them, so we can’t say for sure,” said Mike Saunders, an open-source advocate and a deputy to the board of directors at The Document Foundation.

                                      LibreOffice users typically want a straightforward interface, Saunders said. “They don’t want subscriptions, and they don’t want AI being ‘helpful’ by poking its nose into their work — it reminds them of Clippy from the bad old days,” he said.

                                      There are genuine use cases for generative AI tools, but many users prefer to opt-in to it and choose when and where to enable it. “We have zero plans to put AI into LibreOffice. But we understand the value of some AI tools and are encouraging developers to create … extensions that use AI in a responsible way,” Saunders said.

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                                      European countries should adopt linux and these alternatives instead of paying for windows and Microsoft. Much more private too.

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                                        Yeah is that completely safe? I'm really tempted to try out Mint and I have an old M2 from my previous machine I could format and use for it. The PC is my work/editing station though so can't afford any risk. I can't really make the switch since I'm still dependent on LR+PS (Adobe...) but most of my other software should work, and I've just always wanted to get into Linux but not sure if it'll actually benefit me and my work or if it's just gonna cause me even more hassle than windows currently does.

                                        I'm familiar with messing around in the BIOS, changing boot priority and formatting stuff and whatnot.

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                                        As long as you're confident in being able to distinguish between the two drives (i.e. they have different capacities), you're good.

                                        The main issue people run into w/ a dual boot setup is Windows clobbering the Linux boot loader (the thing that lets you pick whether to boot into Windows or Linux) and users not knowing how to reinstall it. It will only do that on the drive it's installed to, so if Linux is on a separate drive altogether, you'll be fine. I recommend going into the BIOS settings and switching the default boot to your Linux drive, and Linux should detect the Windows installation and give you the option to boot into either one.

                                        LR+PS (Adobe…)

                                        This is probably going to be an issue for you, since neither has a direct replacement on Linux. However, in the worst case scenario (you hate Linux and want to nuke it from orbit), you just need to switch the boot order back in your BIOS.

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                                        • T [email protected]

                                          A backdoor isn't a flaw?

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                                          Source? Afaik there's no backdoor in their cryptography, except maybe if using the cloud to back up your chats?

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