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Putin’s limousine ablaze after mysterious explosion in Moscow

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  • E [email protected]

    We can rule out a Ukrainian assassination attempt. They have a pretty good track record of success.

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    They have a pretty good track record of success.

    I mean, it wouldn't do to advertise failed attempts. And honestly, even if this was a failed Ukrainian assassination attempt, the fact that they legit blew putin's limo up is kind of huge.

    Honestly I though putin already spent 90% of his time in a bitch bunker. Ukraine has already demonstrated the capability of striking Moscow and beyond, long ago, several times over.

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      it's easier if there's plausible deniability.

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      Maybe. I don’t know what it’s like in Russia at all.

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        No that's the actual definition of the word liberal. We got 300 plus years of liberal history to point to. It's always the same song and dance. Nothing matters more than private property and Law and Order to a liberal. Everything else will be thrown away in favor of those two things. Every. Single. Time.

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        Actual =/= original.

        Linguistic prescriptiveness is completely useless in terms of what those terms mean in politics now.

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        • dasus@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

          Actual =/= original.

          Linguistic prescriptiveness is completely useless in terms of what those terms mean in politics now.

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          No that's just a lie you've been sold. The behavior still matches. That's what the last 40 years have been. The neoliberal Takeover of the Democratic Party. I mean you really look at Chuck Schumer and think that labels no longer accurate? Really?

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            It's still not on the BBC 12 hours on, and I don't know the website, so this is fake, unfortunately.

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            Lol. It's not on my local government rhetoric machine and therefore I do not implicitly believe this

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            • V [email protected]

              I'm amazed no one has pointed out the possibility that this was staged by Putin himself as a prerequisite to enforce greater surveillance, military and police presence, claim opposition and Ukraine to be terrorists, and so on. This is, besides a malfunction, much more likely than a failed assassination attempt that went this badly, doesn't have a suspect, and got reported on.

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              Not a failed assassination, but a warning maybe? His health issues have been in the news lately, his "special operation" is wayyyy over-budget... someone's making him look more vulnerable. Who though??? That's my dumb conspiracy; he's losing power and someone's been waiting to fill that vacuum. Corporate-takeover style? Idk, I'm just riffing

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                I'm amazed no one has pointed out the possibility that this was staged by Putin himself as a prerequisite to enforce greater surveillance, military and police presence, claim opposition and Ukraine to be terrorists, and so on. This is, besides a malfunction, much more likely than a failed assassination attempt that went this badly, doesn't have a suspect, and got reported on.

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                bro why do you think he started the war

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                • M [email protected]

                  Saying stuff not even as direct as that is what got me permanently banned and the reason that I'm here now

                  Reddit really chose to side with evil

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                  You're admitting to ban evasion. Don't do that.

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                    I'm amazed no one has pointed out the possibility that this was staged by Putin himself as a prerequisite to enforce greater surveillance, military and police presence, claim opposition and Ukraine to be terrorists, and so on. This is, besides a malfunction, much more likely than a failed assassination attempt that went this badly, doesn't have a suspect, and got reported on.

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                    When has it ever happened in history for a dictator staging a assassnation or coup attempt on him. They always sell the image that they are forever beloved and wanted to be in power by everyone.

                    why would he tell people that the people around him and closest to him dislike him and want him dead? This is the complete opposite of what every dictator fears to unveal. His gaurds are already under heavy paranioa. Now he openly tells everyone it's your chance to take me out because no one likes me?

                    If he wanted to blame ukraine ,it'd have been a lot cheaper and more believable if he just let a drone hit his palace.

                    A malfunction of a $300,000 car engine overheating in cold weather is more believable , but realistically no. He's is too old and has dragged his country's economy and people lives to ruins. He is nothing but an ego at this point and does not take many decisions. This is why I'm %100 positive that not much will change in Russia after his death.

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                      I'm amazed no one has pointed out the possibility that this was staged by Putin himself as a prerequisite to enforce greater surveillance, military and police presence, claim opposition and Ukraine to be terrorists, and so on. This is, besides a malfunction, much more likely than a failed assassination attempt that went this badly, doesn't have a suspect, and got reported on.

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                      He's not an all-powerful FSB god. Just another Gaddafi, always mere hours away from sudden gruesome death.

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                        When has it ever happened in history for a dictator staging a assassnation or coup attempt on him. They always sell the image that they are forever beloved and wanted to be in power by everyone.

                        why would he tell people that the people around him and closest to him dislike him and want him dead? This is the complete opposite of what every dictator fears to unveal. His gaurds are already under heavy paranioa. Now he openly tells everyone it's your chance to take me out because no one likes me?

                        If he wanted to blame ukraine ,it'd have been a lot cheaper and more believable if he just let a drone hit his palace.

                        A malfunction of a $300,000 car engine overheating in cold weather is more believable , but realistically no. He's is too old and has dragged his country's economy and people lives to ruins. He is nothing but an ego at this point and does not take many decisions. This is why I'm %100 positive that not much will change in Russia after his death.

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                        Pretty sure Trump staged the first assassination attempt at himself

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                          I'd rather that he lives to see all his sick imperial dreams crushed.

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                            No that's the actual definition of the word liberal. We got 300 plus years of liberal history to point to. It's always the same song and dance. Nothing matters more than private property and Law and Order to a liberal. Everything else will be thrown away in favor of those two things. Every. Single. Time.

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                            Personal liberty seems like a minimum standard. I should be able to do anything so long as my actions have no impact on anyone or anything else.

                            The problems start when these liberties overlap so conplex rules of law are required.

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                              You're admitting to ban evasion. Don't do that.

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                              What are they gonna do, send a strongly worded letter to their lemmy instance?

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                              • bfg9k@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                                Better luck next time.

                                Man, when (when, not if) Putin dies eastern Europe is going to have a weeeeird power vacuum

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                                Pretty sure it’s “when” for everyone.

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                                  Pretty sure Trump staged the first assassination attempt at himself

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                                  With evidence, please. "I reckon" is not good enough. There is no evidence that anyone coordinated this at all.

                                  Like fuck Trump, but if they staged it why would the shooter be a disaffected conservative and not some antifa supersoldier or whatever? Like they're playing out their fantasies and apparently they can construct whatever reality they feel like, why muddy the waters in any way?

                                  I'm sorry, the reality in which the dude just sucked, the secret service kind of suck at their job, and the bullet grazed Trump's ear rather than going into his brain from sheer dumb luck is a messy, shitty, scary place where nobody really calls the shots, but it turns out that's probably the one we live in.

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                                    Sounds more like a centrist to me.

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                                    A centrist is just a conservative who knows that "conservative" is a bad word.

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                                      Better luck next time.

                                      Man, when (when, not if) Putin dies eastern Europe is going to have a weeeeird power vacuum

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                                      power vacuum

                                      That's a strange way to spell "block party."

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                                        I'd rather that he lives to see all his sick imperial dreams crushed.

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                                        You know what, I'd be happy either way!

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                                        • skullgrid@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                          great. so, fucking nothing?

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                                          maybe ukraine saying if you’re going to fight dirty then we will…
                                          or maybe it was to make it look like they could get close to him, but it was one of many cars and just parked outside for service or something….
                                          or maybe they just missed….

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