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Schooled by Trump, Americans are learning to dislike their allies

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    No, and I start to hate Idiocracy-comparisons. Remember the one crucial thing they did in the movie: listen to the one person most able to solve their problem and then make him president, not put some idiot in charge and build a personality cult around him.

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    The US is most similar to the 2030s-early 2050s US in the Chinese-written White or Black (Chinese variant of Brave New World).

    • An alien shows up, and an international team sent to investigate kill it by accident.
    • A bunch of aliens show up a few years later, but they're content to float in the sky.
    • After deciphering their language, humanity discovers that the aliens seek asylum on Earth, and they claim that the human race is doomed unless humanity does some immediate course correction.
    • "Lol, no."
    • Meanwhile, a group of religious MAGA Republicans (Trump is presumably dead at this point) form a religion devoting to worshiping the aliens, believing that they're angels sent by God.
    • The aliens' predictions come to pass. The collapsed US is then taken over by the alien supporting religious organization in the late 2060s-2070s.
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      It‘s almost as if other nations prefer you to be tolerant and welcoming towards them. You know, the very basics of diplomacy.

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      the very basics of diplomacy.

      The very basics of human decency

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      • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

        https://archive.is/2025.04.01-221630/https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/03/31/schooled-by-trump-americans-are-learning-to-dislike-their-allies

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        Oh look, you can physically see the Democrat shift to the right on the chart.

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          Mostly Republicans but a much smaller trend can be seen among Democrats too.

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          This is fair though. I might even agree that this whole situation has indeed uncovered areas where the USA could be doing some things better.

          Importing more than you export to a country is not financially ideal but solving it with tarrifs or blaming the other part that they dont buy more from you is not the way to correct this.

          Their perspective is from the other side of the situation though and the information is distributes by a media that seems to have an (not so secret) agenda

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          • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

            Oceania was at war with Eurasia; therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia.

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            We thank the Big Brother for the increase in the chocolate ration!

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              https://archive.is/2025.04.01-221630/https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/03/31/schooled-by-trump-americans-are-learning-to-dislike-their-allies

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              I'm just one guy, but absolutely not me. I hate my fellow Americans a million times more than anyone in Canada, or Europe.

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                I'm just one guy, but absolutely not me. I hate my fellow Americans a million times more than anyone in Canada, or Europe.

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                  Man, looking closely at this is comical. Conservatives are the most flock-minded people on Earth, whatever their taking heads say instantly becomes their new zeitgeist. The irony of conservatives calling everyone else sheep is... Well I guess there's a reason I so often hear the phrase "every conservative accusation is a confession".

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                    https://archive.is/2025.04.01-221630/https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/03/31/schooled-by-trump-americans-are-learning-to-dislike-their-allies

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                    I'd like to see these graphs only relating to their opinions on Russia and North Korea from the 1980s, at least, through now.

                    This is just insane, though. The decoupling from reality is seemingly total.

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                      That's right. What the US is doing is pretty much just cosplaying Nazi Germany. The Nazis weren't evil geniuses, they were pretty stupid and disorganised (a hallmark of every fascist regime is everlasting internal rivalry for more influence) and put their idiotic little ideology and personality cult above all else (for example, deportation trains to the death camps had precedence over much needed military logistics, even very late into WW2, Nazi big wigs regularly engaged in disastrous micromanagement because they could), inevitably leading to picking a fight with pretty much the entire rest of the world and predictably losing that. The only thing the Nazis were clever with was propaganda. See any similarities already?

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                      i dont want to even think about actually competent and efficient nazis

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                        i dont want to even think about actually competent and efficient nazis

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                        Nobody wants that. They are by far destructive enough in their incompetent and inefficient state.

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                          Nobody wants that. They are by far destructive enough in their incompetent and inefficient state.

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                          They are like somekind of cancer in humanitys collective psyche or something.

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                            Americans Republicans. FIFY

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                            Republicans are Americans.
                            And they control the entire government and the most viewed media right now.

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                            • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

                              https://archive.is/2025.04.01-221630/https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/03/31/schooled-by-trump-americans-are-learning-to-dislike-their-allies

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                              Like flipping a switch. Americans are completely brainwashed.

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                                Man, looking closely at this is comical. Conservatives are the most flock-minded people on Earth, whatever their taking heads say instantly becomes their new zeitgeist. The irony of conservatives calling everyone else sheep is... Well I guess there's a reason I so often hear the phrase "every conservative accusation is a confession".

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                                This is the power of the algos.

                                I had two Reddit accounts and one was solely used for gaming.

                                I would get these heavy metal videos about Mexican rapists that were deported on the one linked with gaming. (A clear conservative take). Showed Canadians as commies / socialist evil staties.

                                And some of my liberal social main account demonstrated or showed a shit load of Canadian content that linked them with MAGA.

                                so I’m not even sure if the blue line ticking up is “I hate Canadians” or “they are magats too”

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                                  Republicans are Americans.
                                  And they control the entire government and the most viewed media right now.

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                                  Well according to them they're the only Americans. Which I'm fine with, I REALLY don't want the label.

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                                  • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

                                    https://archive.is/2025.04.01-221630/https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/03/31/schooled-by-trump-americans-are-learning-to-dislike-their-allies

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                                    Magats are fucking dumb. Argue with them like it’s a chess match being a few moves ahead and you can very accurately predict what they’ll say next.

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                                      https://archive.is/2025.04.01-221630/https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/03/31/schooled-by-trump-americans-are-learning-to-dislike-their-allies

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                                      You could see republicans opinion change drastically and immediately in his first term based on his opinion, and democrat opinion remain relatively the same. When Obama bombed Syria, around 80 percent of Democrats and 80 percent of Republicans disapproved. When trump bombed Syria Democrats moved a few percentage points. It was probably affected, but in the deviations. Republicans swapped from 80/20 disapprove/approve straight to 20/80.

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                                        https://archive.is/2025.04.01-221630/https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/03/31/schooled-by-trump-americans-are-learning-to-dislike-their-allies

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                                        How was this question phrased in the survey?

                                        Because in a very literal sense, Canada is being unfriendly. They should be. Amerikkka needs like infinite punishment right now.

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                                          The fact that they can change their opinion on their close friends based upon what the president says is kind of pathetic. They call everyone else sheeple and brainwashed as they believe everything he says without question. The definition of a cult.

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                                          It's always -- always -- projection.

                                          I used to think it was only sometimes projection or often projection, but lately I've realized I was wrong. I literally can't think of an accusation the MAGAs have used that hasn't been projection.

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