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  • zarkanian@sh.itjust.worksZ [email protected]

    Those aren't opinions I would care about in the first place. Somebody thinks you should be watching ads? WTF?

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    but google's profits!!!

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    • circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.orgC [email protected]

      "Don't Be Evil"

      (I know this hasn't been the Google motto in years -- when it stopped was one of the biggest corporate red flags)

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      If they were really serious about not being evil, they would've formed as a public benefit corporation (which they did not).

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      • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

        I remember the pre-Youtube internet where we created content because it was fun or educational, not because we needed money for the task of doing so.

        Paying for server costs and maintaining them, sure. MetaFilter has a good system for that, they're effectively a non-profit and have a donation structure and paid admins and moderators. The rest of the people on the site, they just make good content for the sake of making good content, not because they feel the need to be paid for their time doing it.

        God I miss the pre-Youtube era. "Content creators" looking for a payday via advertising are a fucking cancer.

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        MetaFilter has a good system for that, they’re effectively a non-profit and have a donation structure and paid admins and moderators.

        MetaFilter has at multiple points been on the verge of shutting down, now? IIRC, you pay $5 for an account.

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        • zarkanian@sh.itjust.worksZ [email protected]

          If they were really serious about not being evil, they would've formed as a public benefit corporation (which they did not).

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          Yes. Avenues exist. But money is corrupting.

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          • null@slrpnk.netN [email protected]

            Is money is the only thing about yourself that you ascribe value to?

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            That's not an answer to my question.

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            • indianajones@lemmy.dbzer0.comI [email protected]
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              Google should get destroyed

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              • A [email protected]

                Nebula doesn't have that kind of 'popular' YouTubers, it's a creator-made platform that's more focused on science and documentary channels. I don't think I've seen anything on Nebula even remotely related to gaming.

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                There's definitely gaming content on there, but what I've seen has been of the long-form analysis type.

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                • I [email protected]

                  That is why centralized platforms, especially powerful ones, are sitting ducks waiting to become even more corrupt. Why more people are not leaving centralized services is a crime against humanity as it is clear that supporting theme means society suffers.

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                  The 'not leaving centralized services' thing isn't really helped when there's basically no other viable alternatives, like is the case with YT. PeerTube exists, sure, but it's a content desert, sadly.

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                  • indianajones@lemmy.dbzer0.comI [email protected]
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                    Don’t be evil

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                    • zarkanian@sh.itjust.worksZ [email protected]

                      Those aren't opinions I would care about in the first place. Somebody thinks you should be watching ads? WTF?

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                      Please think about billionaires!

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                        I mean, sure but we are past that. No large YouTuber will give up getting paid, and go to a system with a much smaller user base so even stuff like affiliate links and sponsorships are worth less. Basically double lose money just to join peertube. Especially since most large YouTubers have a team of people who they pay, so they cannot afford for their employees sake to take such a large loss just to support peertube.

                        More likely this leads to Vimeo, or like twitch TikTok or something else being able to support a normal video platform than it leads to people using peertube.

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                        I will never understand people who identify as leftist that refuse to understand that under our current economic model people require money to survive and if they do not get money for doing their creative work they might not be able to continue making that work.

                        It is not selfish to want to be payed for working on something like a video that in some cases takes hundreds of man hours of work to complete. There is a reason that the quality of content available on youtube has gone up massively. Say what you want about the writing but there is no way that something like helluva boss could ever have been made entirely online before youtube.

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                        • zarkanian@sh.itjust.worksZ [email protected]

                          Those aren't opinions I would care about in the first place. Somebody thinks you should be watching ads? WTF?

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                          LTT is very sure that following the FBIs recommendation for always using an adblocker is piracy for one example.

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                          • P [email protected]

                            And people judged me for watching YouTube with uBlock Origin, or via NewPipe for eons.

                            Look who's laughing now.

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                            Good lord, the amount of idiots that white knighted me for using uBlock.

                            "WOULD U WORK FOR FREEEEE????!!?"

                            Like fuck off no I wouldn't. I also dont buy up every other company I see, turn it to shit and then try to force a political agenda through it, and guess who IS doing that using billions of dollars? Yep, Google.

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                            • indianajones@lemmy.dbzer0.comI [email protected]

                              I dont see Bluesky going down the enshittification path thát fast

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                              I dont trust anything that isn't fully decentralized. Bluesky is very weird in that regard, its partially centralised. I guess it's better than Twitter (but that is setting the bar very low). I still refrain from using it too often.

                              It will almost certainly have ads in the future and will inevitably go down the path of reddit, twitter and Facebook so I prefer to use something that is completely out of reach of the CEO if something goes to shit.

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                                I hated Google far before it was cool. I would feel vindicated if it weren't so damn overdue. They don't even contribute meaningfully to society. And I mean that about EVERYTHING

                                Gmail is lame, their search engine sucks, chrome wastes resources, their ads platform ruined the internet, Golang fundamentally sucks, the emulation layer of android is so fucking wasteful, Material Design ruined digital creativity, etc.

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                                  They don’t want proof that what’s going to be happening soon, was ever mortally objectionable.

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                                  • D [email protected]

                                    The 'not leaving centralized services' thing isn't really helped when there's basically no other viable alternatives, like is the case with YT. PeerTube exists, sure, but it's a content desert, sadly.

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                                    The big problem with PeerTube(PT) is that there is no advertising. As it stands now people are burning money in order to run a PT instance and YouTube(YT) was not at all profitable for many years so it is unlikely that PT ever will be unless people start being willing to pay for people to upload their content to PT. There are ways that you could make PT profitable but it would end up making it into something more similar to Patreon or Nebula.

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                                    • I [email protected]

                                      That is why centralized platforms, especially powerful ones, are sitting ducks waiting to become even more corrupt. Why more people are not leaving centralized services is a crime against humanity as it is clear that supporting theme means society suffers.

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                                      It's frightening. Why do people not make an effort to leave Reddit?

                                      How can the same people run a dictatorship of the proletariat? Even democracy, I don't see how society as a whole can avoid being manipulated.

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                                      • daggermoon@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                                        What's wrong with LMG?

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                                        They can not keep themselves out of drama for more than 6 months at a time. The whole situation with M left a bad taste in my mouth even though they were found legally clean. All of the other dramas that have occurred that might not be such a big deal on their own, but when they are all coming from one company it starts to paint a picture.

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                                        • C [email protected]

                                          Pichai kissed the ring. He's colluding with the person who tried to overturn the elections and install himself as a ruler.

                                          All of the billionaires that were at the inauguration are in the same boat. I'm at a point where I believe the crimes of any of them should be tried and convicted with the punishments being doled out collectively to all colluders, but that's me.

                                          I'd be going for the death penalty from the prosecution side, since it seems like that is what we do now to people who cause one or more people to die, no matter how unethical the victim(s) were.

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                                          I wonder if Tim Cook is there too. It would make sense for him and Apple to resist this at least somehow but...

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