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YouTube removes 'gender identity' from hate speech policy

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    As i signed up for this sub, I thought I'd be reading about technology. Actually, it seems that people here are more concerned about companies not sticking to the far left ideology, so naturally they call everyone nazis and fascists, without ever knowing what those words even mean.

    Just because someone doesn't want to play the gender tip toe dance, doesn't mean they're nazis. But I guess that's not something that this sub is ready to face.

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    get fucked bigot

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      As i signed up for this sub, I thought I'd be reading about technology. Actually, it seems that people here are more concerned about companies not sticking to the far left ideology, so naturally they call everyone nazis and fascists, without ever knowing what those words even mean.

      Just because someone doesn't want to play the gender tip toe dance, doesn't mean they're nazis. But I guess that's not something that this sub is ready to face.

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      Just your garden variety bigots and assholes then?

      Also, I think you should read up on what facisim is and why it's being so widely used right now as highly oppressive rhetoric is being pushed from many far-right leaders throughout the world.

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      • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

        Stop using youtube.

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        Definitely stop

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        • M [email protected]

          What about this idea:

          Stop staring at internet videos all day and go get a life. Learn Spanish, take up woodworking, volunteer at your local school, walk around the block… do something useful instead of staring at Internet videos, or worse, making internet videos for people to stare at

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          Hey. I'm learning Spanish, I'm a volunteer, and I run and cycle on the regular!

          Somehow, that doesn't stop you sounding like a bigot though...

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          • samus12345@lemm.eeS [email protected]

            It's too hard to change anything, but only if it's progressive policies. Fascist policies can be implemented immediately.

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            Well. Being a bigoted asshole is easy.

            Actually being inclusive and nice to people takes effort.

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              • Remember that one with the dancing penis lmao. That had nothing to do with all the other else
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              • C [email protected]

                As i signed up for this sub, I thought I'd be reading about technology. Actually, it seems that people here are more concerned about companies not sticking to the far left ideology, so naturally they call everyone nazis and fascists, without ever knowing what those words even mean.

                Just because someone doesn't want to play the gender tip toe dance, doesn't mean they're nazis. But I guess that's not something that this sub is ready to face.

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                I'm with you on the "they're not Nazi thing"

                I think a Lemmy is being a version targeted radicalization for certain groups.

                But still I think you're wrong that we can separate technology from this political stuff right now. It's not separate. Technology is the medium that groups are using to spread this stuff. It's important and interesting to see how they're doing it.

                Content should focus on the tech side of it. And also why be angry at the side that's just trying to protect their freedoms here. If it wasn't for the people trying to limit their freedoms, we'd never hear of this stuff.

                The issue isn't people trying to identify as another gender. It's the people saying no they can't and then abusing their power and influence to do it.

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                • Q [email protected]

                  Everyone should check out PeerTube sometime, the UX has improved a lot and there's a decent amount of content too. I recommend installing the PeerTube Companion app. It shows a popup on YouTube if you've clicked on a video that is also available on PeerTube.

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                  Nebula.tv

                  and

                  Means.tv

                  both offer more curated platforms that arent owned and operated by the broligarchy

                  I realize Peertube is free and Floss but it's esoteric and lacking buy in; like a great open source console with no games. (Whats more if you dont use a VPN it can be used to track your view history, iirc)

                  I'm broke af but planning on getting subscriptions to both asap; real shit bc if the monetization model is "free" (ads) then you the viewer are the product, units for their ecomomy.

                  and they'll canibalize you when their done with queer people, brown people and other marginalized folks like me.

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                    It’s almost like their support for these issues was never genuine to begin with.

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                    Was yours? Commenting online isn't exactly fighting the good fight. Did you do anything to help shore up and defend anything.

                    These companies face legal action from the government that was elected. A government elected who won power by spreading their shitty ideology everywhere.

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                    • C [email protected]

                      As i signed up for this sub, I thought I'd be reading about technology. Actually, it seems that people here are more concerned about companies not sticking to the far left ideology, so naturally they call everyone nazis and fascists, without ever knowing what those words even mean.

                      Just because someone doesn't want to play the gender tip toe dance, doesn't mean they're nazis. But I guess that's not something that this sub is ready to face.

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                      Seems like you are getting downvoted, but I agree with you that nowadays people use words like nazi and fascist very loosely. I'm very sure that a large part of the people can't tell what nazi or fascist really is without looking it on Wikipedia.

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                        Was yours? Commenting online isn't exactly fighting the good fight. Did you do anything to help shore up and defend anything.

                        These companies face legal action from the government that was elected. A government elected who won power by spreading their shitty ideology everywhere.

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                        I’m not talking about personal actions. I personally believe in equality and I wish I could do more about that even if there are all sorts of personal reasons that’s difficult for me.

                        Corporations don’t believe anything. They’re just profit optimizing machines. They were doing rainbow capitalism when they thought it would be more profitable and now that they think the opposite is more profitable, they’ll do that. It’s as simple as that and hoping corporations would be allies in a fight for equality was always based on a misunderstanding about power.

                        It’s not like corporations don’t have power that can resist government action. Look at how effectively they’ve evaded taxes and regulations. The big international ones can threaten to take their ball and leave if they don’t like a country’s policies. And that’s when they don’t just bribe politicians to change them.

                        The workers at those companies are people though. Labor organizing was always going to be necessary to build up power for change. Not saying it’s easy and I can’t fault someone for worrying about losing their job, but if resistance was going to happen anywhere that’s where it would be. Not in boardrooms or alone in a booth.

                        But there’s the difference. It’s one thing to have convictions but not the means or courage to act on them. It’s another thing to have power, but lack convictions beyond whatever is currently convenient. The former could overcome those obstacles given the right circumstances. The latter never will.

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                          Was yours? Commenting online isn't exactly fighting the good fight. Did you do anything to help shore up and defend anything.

                          These companies face legal action from the government that was elected. A government elected who won power by spreading their shitty ideology everywhere.

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                          Gosh, Melvin, what a hero you are.

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                            Don't Be Evil

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                            If you don't use the strikeout, you can save millions of dollar on toner/ink from not printing out an extra word at a corpo that big. I think I deserve a promotion for that insight as well, well worth the extra money!

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                            • M [email protected]

                              Was yours? Commenting online isn't exactly fighting the good fight. Did you do anything to help shore up and defend anything.

                              These companies face legal action from the government that was elected. A government elected who won power by spreading their shitty ideology everywhere.

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                              What are you doing? Why are you swinging on someone clearly with you?

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                                PeerTube isn’t bad, it just has no content

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                                It is kinda bad. Especially when it comes to finding content or getting noticed

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                                • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                                  I remember the pre-Youtube internet where we created content because it was fun or educational, not because we needed money for the task of doing so.

                                  Paying for server costs and maintaining them, sure. MetaFilter has a good system for that, they're effectively a non-profit and have a donation structure and paid admins and moderators. The rest of the people on the site, they just make good content for the sake of making good content, not because they feel the need to be paid for their time doing it.

                                  God I miss the pre-Youtube era. "Content creators" looking for a payday via advertising are a fucking cancer.

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                                  People expect to pay a carpenter or a plumber for their services, why shouldn't entertainers and content creators be allowed to get paid for their work?

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                                  • M [email protected]

                                    Was yours? Commenting online isn't exactly fighting the good fight. Did you do anything to help shore up and defend anything.

                                    These companies face legal action from the government that was elected. A government elected who won power by spreading their shitty ideology everywhere.

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                                    Read your comment back to yourself.

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                                      Funny think about that.

                                      I also had it disabled, started watching a longer(ish) video, closed the video and enabled history and somehow YouTube knew how much I already watched before history was on.

                                      So my guess is that history off is only for the user, YouTube knows anyway, it just pretends not to store it

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                                      The buffer only stores one video, for direct user experience purposes only, and is wiped upon playback of a subsequent video.

                                      Well that’s just my assumption based on the company’s data privacy reputation (lul I grinned typing that)


                                      Love how aggressive Alphabet’s Google’s YouTube is after watch history’s disabled.

                                      WATCH HISTORY OFF!! CLICK TO ENABLE (NO RECOMMENDATIONS B/C YOU DESERVE A BLANK PAGE) OTHERWISE, AGAIN !PLEASE! !!CLICK!!

                                      #darkpattern

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                                        Keep using uorigin for blocking as. Also use Firefox.

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                                          Just your garden variety bigots and assholes then?

                                          Also, I think you should read up on what facisim is and why it's being so widely used right now as highly oppressive rhetoric is being pushed from many far-right leaders throughout the world.

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                                          I know exactly what fascism means, and often what the left is doing aligns better with the definition than what the right is doing. Also, let's not forget that "nazi" is a short form for "national socialism"

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