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  • ininewcrow@lemmy.caI [email protected]

    This is one of the many reasons why I dumped Windows and moved onto to Linux about ten years ago. I don't have that much money and back then I constantly budgeted what I had to pay for .... I wasn't going to spend hundreds on Windows, then hundreds more on subscriptions for things I could get for free in the Open Source Software realm where viruses and security were almost nonexistant. As soon as I dumped Windows, I no longer had to pay for the OS, the office suite, the image editor or the security software. I've saved so much money over the years.

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    I wasn’t going to spend hundreds on Windows

    I never had to pay for Windows. I have been using it since Windows for workgroups 3.11 came out in 1993.

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    • ininewcrow@lemmy.caI [email protected]

      This is one of the many reasons why I dumped Windows and moved onto to Linux about ten years ago. I don't have that much money and back then I constantly budgeted what I had to pay for .... I wasn't going to spend hundreds on Windows, then hundreds more on subscriptions for things I could get for free in the Open Source Software realm where viruses and security were almost nonexistant. As soon as I dumped Windows, I no longer had to pay for the OS, the office suite, the image editor or the security software. I've saved so much money over the years.

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      My laptop came with Windows (I could buy with Linux, but the price was the same), and can still run FOSS applications on it. I use GIMP, Inkscape, QGIS, and more.

      In 40 years of using a PC I've never paid for security software.

      I do still have Adobe products for when I need them though, because when it comes down to it they really do have the best image editing software by a very significant margin.

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        Not McAfee, but in the early 2000s I came home and found that Norton had decided that everything in C:\Windows was a virus.

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        Well, it wasn't wrong.

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        • ininewcrow@lemmy.caI [email protected]

          This is one of the many reasons why I dumped Windows and moved onto to Linux about ten years ago. I don't have that much money and back then I constantly budgeted what I had to pay for .... I wasn't going to spend hundreds on Windows, then hundreds more on subscriptions for things I could get for free in the Open Source Software realm where viruses and security were almost nonexistant. As soon as I dumped Windows, I no longer had to pay for the OS, the office suite, the image editor or the security software. I've saved so much money over the years.

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          You never had to pay. It's not like they're gonna actually support you as a lowest level consumer, fuck em

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          • lime@feddit.nuL [email protected]

            because they behave like the buttons on a radio.

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            Although technically correct, that's not much of an explanation with modern radios.

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            • real_squids@sopuli.xyzR [email protected]

              You never had to pay. It's not like they're gonna actually support you as a lowest level consumer, fuck em

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              This was over ten years ago ... 15/20 years ago it was a real pain to try to get a copy of Windows and a key ... it was relatively easy to do if you lived in a big city (I used to deal with a computer guy in Hamilton, Ontario and he had memorized three Windows keys that he just kept reusing) ... the problem was in maintaining systems, updating them and in the changes, it kept messing with your setup and eventually triggering the system that it was an illegal key. Then you had to either disconnect from the internet, find a way around it or find a new key. I don't live near a big city and we didn't have easy access to the internet or forums or groups back then so it was frustrating to keep finding the latest ways to get a cracked copy, institution copy, company copy or hack to keep your system running. I don't work for a big company, don't have access to a school or institution so it was always difficult.

              I used to get so frustrated with it all that eventually it was just easier to buy a copy rather than do anything else. Saying all that, I think I only ever bought four Windows OS over the years anyway. And before I learned about Linux and Open Source software, I was the same as most unaware people and just bought the software titles I thought I needed .... plus the security software! ... I remember I maintained a copy of Norton Antivirus for years before I realized it was literally turning my system into molasses.

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                Although technically correct, that's not much of an explanation with modern radios.

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                i mean, the most common radios still worked like that when modern uis were being developed, and they did user studies to figure out what people would understand.

                try tracing back the lineage of the "hamburger menu"

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                  john's probably rolling around in his grave right now, but it isn't because he's upset. he's just fucking the dead hookers down there

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                  • lime@feddit.nuL [email protected]

                    i mean, the most common radios still worked like that when modern uis were being developed, and they did user studies to figure out what people would understand.

                    try tracing back the lineage of the "hamburger menu"

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                    Oh, I completely understand. It's just one of the things that's a relic today and will be weird for the generation that grows up today. Just like the floppy disk symbol for saving or the folder icon for loading.

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                    • ininewcrow@lemmy.caI [email protected]

                      This was over ten years ago ... 15/20 years ago it was a real pain to try to get a copy of Windows and a key ... it was relatively easy to do if you lived in a big city (I used to deal with a computer guy in Hamilton, Ontario and he had memorized three Windows keys that he just kept reusing) ... the problem was in maintaining systems, updating them and in the changes, it kept messing with your setup and eventually triggering the system that it was an illegal key. Then you had to either disconnect from the internet, find a way around it or find a new key. I don't live near a big city and we didn't have easy access to the internet or forums or groups back then so it was frustrating to keep finding the latest ways to get a cracked copy, institution copy, company copy or hack to keep your system running. I don't work for a big company, don't have access to a school or institution so it was always difficult.

                      I used to get so frustrated with it all that eventually it was just easier to buy a copy rather than do anything else. Saying all that, I think I only ever bought four Windows OS over the years anyway. And before I learned about Linux and Open Source software, I was the same as most unaware people and just bought the software titles I thought I needed .... plus the security software! ... I remember I maintained a copy of Norton Antivirus for years before I realized it was literally turning my system into molasses.

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                      Ah, that explains it. Convenience (and good service) is a strong piracy preventer.

                      By the time I was old enough to install operating systems activating them became trivial, nowadays MAS makes it even easier. Also it's probably cultural, piracy used to be so much bigger here. Still fairly big tbh, hell, my ISP's homepage has a couple of articles explaining how torrents work lol

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                        Oh, I completely understand. It's just one of the things that's a relic today and will be weird for the generation that grows up today. Just like the floppy disk symbol for saving or the folder icon for loading.

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                        the worst part about all of it is looking at the absolutely insane amounts of user studies that were done for the first GUIs. there are mountains of data. and now we just let the intern do whatever css trick is cool that month.

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                        • ininewcrow@lemmy.caI [email protected]

                          This was over ten years ago ... 15/20 years ago it was a real pain to try to get a copy of Windows and a key ... it was relatively easy to do if you lived in a big city (I used to deal with a computer guy in Hamilton, Ontario and he had memorized three Windows keys that he just kept reusing) ... the problem was in maintaining systems, updating them and in the changes, it kept messing with your setup and eventually triggering the system that it was an illegal key. Then you had to either disconnect from the internet, find a way around it or find a new key. I don't live near a big city and we didn't have easy access to the internet or forums or groups back then so it was frustrating to keep finding the latest ways to get a cracked copy, institution copy, company copy or hack to keep your system running. I don't work for a big company, don't have access to a school or institution so it was always difficult.

                          I used to get so frustrated with it all that eventually it was just easier to buy a copy rather than do anything else. Saying all that, I think I only ever bought four Windows OS over the years anyway. And before I learned about Linux and Open Source software, I was the same as most unaware people and just bought the software titles I thought I needed .... plus the security software! ... I remember I maintained a copy of Norton Antivirus for years before I realized it was literally turning my system into molasses.

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                          What a load of shit. Pirating windows was super easy and very common back then. And if you didn't had internet access there was no way for windows to revoke your key which actually never happened with the usual pirated copies. You are a liar.

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                            What a load of shit. Pirating windows was super easy and very common back then. And if you didn't had internet access there was no way for windows to revoke your key which actually never happened with the usual pirated copies. You are a liar.

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                            I would be a liar if I had known what I was doing

                            I am not a liar because I didn't know what I was doing back then

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                              In case anyone cares, those are called radio buttons.

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                              Hmm, I always thought they were radial buttons.

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                                john's probably rolling around in his grave right now, but it isn't because he's upset. he's just fucking the dead hookers down there

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                                The drugs are still working their way outta his system.

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                                • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                                  The drugs are still working their way outta his system.

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                                  fukushima, hold my pipe

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                                  • lime@feddit.nuL [email protected]

                                    the worst part about all of it is looking at the absolutely insane amounts of user studies that were done for the first GUIs. there are mountains of data. and now we just let the intern do whatever css trick is cool that month.

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                                    ... Microsoft "let's fucking change everything for no good reason" team enters the chat

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                                      Oh, I completely understand. It's just one of the things that's a relic today and will be weird for the generation that grows up today. Just like the floppy disk symbol for saving or the folder icon for loading.

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                                      • ininewcrow@lemmy.caI [email protected]

                                        This is one of the many reasons why I dumped Windows and moved onto to Linux about ten years ago. I don't have that much money and back then I constantly budgeted what I had to pay for .... I wasn't going to spend hundreds on Windows, then hundreds more on subscriptions for things I could get for free in the Open Source Software realm where viruses and security were almost nonexistant. As soon as I dumped Windows, I no longer had to pay for the OS, the office suite, the image editor or the security software. I've saved so much money over the years.

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                                        Probably best you switched to something different, seeing how you had no idea how to use Windows.

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                                          john's probably rolling around in his grave right now, but it isn't because he's upset. he's just fucking the dead hookers down there

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                                          I highly recommend looking up the video where John McAfee explains how to uninstall McAfee Antivirus!

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