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      Hah, I'm from Turkey and I have never heard of this place.

      It looks like I found my next vacation spot 🙂

      Here is the hotel webpage for those interested: https://www.azuradeluxe.com/en

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        Hah, I'm from Turkey and I have never heard of this place.

        It looks like I found my next vacation spot 🙂

        Here is the hotel webpage for those interested: https://www.azuradeluxe.com/en

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        Bring back some magicka potions!

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          Bring back some magicka potions!

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          will do!

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            "Do you get to Turkey very often? Oh, what am I saying? Of course you don't."

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              I like the elder scrolls series of games too, especially Morrowind, but isn't the most obvious answer here that the part of the team that was working on inspiration for different architectures and cultures might have googled similar things to you, stumbled on similar photos and thought "I am going to steal that"?

              I am not saying this was nefarious, this is just how "exoticism" or seeing other cultures mundane as exotic can degrade our capacity to understand what we are perceiving.

              Edit ok so Azura is an imperfect echo of Ishtar

              Azura’s Moon is always shown as a Crescent, while accompanied by her single Star. Irl the Crescent and Star symbol can be traced back Sumerian iconography to the moon deity Sin and goddess Ishtar.

              Sin (aka Nanna) is said to be what gave the name for the concept of sin in the Semetic traditions. The Moons being the body of Mundus's god king (and diety to be associated with the first the sin of liberty) is an interesting note.

              Ishtar (aka Inanna) is a goddess of love, sex, fertility, and war. She is also associated with the morningstar Venus. Also...
              ....

              The Sumerians were known astrologers, and traced these and other celestial bodies for many things, but most importantly, for divine prophecy.

              I find the possibility of influence interesting, as well as the implications of Azura displaying Herself as a bridge between them, or perhaps a scale weighing them against each other."

              https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/57ms7g/what_is_azuras_moon/

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                I like the elder scrolls series of games too, especially Morrowind, but isn't the most obvious answer here that the part of the team that was working on inspiration for different architectures and cultures might have googled similar things to you, stumbled on similar photos and thought "I am going to steal that"?

                I am not saying this was nefarious, this is just how "exoticism" or seeing other cultures mundane as exotic can degrade our capacity to understand what we are perceiving.

                Edit ok so Azura is an imperfect echo of Ishtar

                Azura’s Moon is always shown as a Crescent, while accompanied by her single Star. Irl the Crescent and Star symbol can be traced back Sumerian iconography to the moon deity Sin and goddess Ishtar.

                Sin (aka Nanna) is said to be what gave the name for the concept of sin in the Semetic traditions. The Moons being the body of Mundus's god king (and diety to be associated with the first the sin of liberty) is an interesting note.

                Ishtar (aka Inanna) is a goddess of love, sex, fertility, and war. She is also associated with the morningstar Venus. Also...
                ....

                The Sumerians were known astrologers, and traced these and other celestial bodies for many things, but most importantly, for divine prophecy.

                I find the possibility of influence interesting, as well as the implications of Azura displaying Herself as a bridge between them, or perhaps a scale weighing them against each other."

                https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/57ms7g/what_is_azuras_moon/

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                Built in 2006 though, well after morrowind

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                  Built in 2006 though, well after morrowind

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                  Yes but what was the statue built in 2006 meant to honor? They both appear to be referencing literally the same thing, the appearance is very similar.

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                    I like the elder scrolls series of games too, especially Morrowind, but isn't the most obvious answer here that the part of the team that was working on inspiration for different architectures and cultures might have googled similar things to you, stumbled on similar photos and thought "I am going to steal that"?

                    I am not saying this was nefarious, this is just how "exoticism" or seeing other cultures mundane as exotic can degrade our capacity to understand what we are perceiving.

                    Edit ok so Azura is an imperfect echo of Ishtar

                    Azura’s Moon is always shown as a Crescent, while accompanied by her single Star. Irl the Crescent and Star symbol can be traced back Sumerian iconography to the moon deity Sin and goddess Ishtar.

                    Sin (aka Nanna) is said to be what gave the name for the concept of sin in the Semetic traditions. The Moons being the body of Mundus's god king (and diety to be associated with the first the sin of liberty) is an interesting note.

                    Ishtar (aka Inanna) is a goddess of love, sex, fertility, and war. She is also associated with the morningstar Venus. Also...
                    ....

                    The Sumerians were known astrologers, and traced these and other celestial bodies for many things, but most importantly, for divine prophecy.

                    I find the possibility of influence interesting, as well as the implications of Azura displaying Herself as a bridge between them, or perhaps a scale weighing them against each other."

                    https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/57ms7g/what_is_azuras_moon/

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                    I would absolutely believe that this was coincidence or unintentional "borrowing" or "inspiration" if the name of the location wasn't literally "Azura Deluxe Hotels." At that point it's pretty blatent.

                    Edit response to parent edit:
                    I can't find any iconography that represents the religious Azura (or Ishtar) with both the Sun and Moon, especially as depicted in this statue, outside of the Elder Scrolls universe. Happy to be proven wrong, but I think it's clear which party was influenced by the other.

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                      Yes but what was the statue built in 2006 meant to honor? They both appear to be referencing literally the same thing, the appearance is very similar.

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                      https://www.azuradeluxe.com/en based on the name of the hotel... I'm guessing it's referencing TES

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                        https://www.azuradeluxe.com/en based on the name of the hotel... I'm guessing it's referencing TES

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                        was excited to see they have a 'fantasy room'.

                        am disappointed to not see more TES references.

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                          I don’t know what farts me up more…

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                            By Azura!

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                              I don’t know what farts me up more…

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                              OP has to be engagement farming at this point.

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                                The alarm clocks inside better say 'Hey, you. You're finally awake.'

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